Building pc with Asus Mobo Problems

Hey my names Adam and i have been running really yucks computer over the last few years =/
i decided i would get a new pc and build it,

My components are :

Intel Q6600 Possessor
Asus P5KPL-AM motherboard
2GB ddr2 800 mhz ocz platnum
8800GT 512MB ZOTEC

here the problem i have...

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i have a IDE HDD and the mobo specs on websites say the board can take ide
but i also have IDE CD/DVD drives and i was told by good friend that ide cddrives and asus dont work and that it would flash the bios or somthing and then it would never work ...

i need help

can i run the drives ? or not ...

Hard drive = SAMSUNG SP1604N - and its defenitly NOT SATA ! ITS ( IDE )

http://www.samsung.com/me/products [...] p1604n.asp

Cd/DVD drives

Informations CD-Rom PHILIPS DVD8421 :
IDE Channel : #2 - Master Drive
Manufacturer : PHILIPS
Model : PHILIPS DVD8421
Serial Number : MYJS69504C
Revision (Firmware) : 6H01
Serial ATA : No
Support : ATA/ATAPI-5

then

IDE Channel : #2 - Slave Drive
Manufacturer : HL-DT-ST
Model : HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8163B
Revision (Firmware) : 0C21
Serial ATA : No
Support : ATA/ATAPI-6

Please help me ...

i wana build my pc asap so i can use it for working .

thanks

Adam McKenzie

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i also have IDE CD/DVD drives and i was told by good friend that ide cddrives and asus dont work and that it would flash the bios or somthing and then it would never work ...

It can't flash the BIOS if you don't insert a bootable CD/DVD with a BIOS file and use it to flash your BIOS.

Connect both units and they will work. You should use the IDE cable that came with your motherboard. Performance when using both devices might not be great, but it will work and nothing will happen to your BIOS.

Reply to GhislainG

You have 3 ide drives total. You will only be able to use 2. As long as you get the jumpers right you will be fine.

Reply to daship

You can purchase an IDE to SATA Adaptor in order to connect your hard drive. Your
motherboard should have included some SATA cables:

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?i [...] 11&cat=HDD

Reply to cmichael138

right thanks for your quick replies but im slightly a pc noob so ... when you say somthing like (You have 3 ide drives total. You will only be able to use 2)

so i need to use say my HDD with my Dvd drive just 1 yes ? and that being -

IDE Channel : #2 - Slave Drive
Manufacturer : HL-DT-ST
Model : HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8163B
Revision (Firmware) : 0C21
Serial ATA : No
Support : ATA/ATAPI-6

or

Informations CD-Rom PHILIPS DVD8421 :
IDE Channel : #2 - Master Drive
Manufacturer : PHILIPS
Model : PHILIPS DVD8421
Serial Number : MYJS69504C
Revision (Firmware) : 6H01
Serial ATA : No
Support : ATA/ATAPI-5

Reply to sniperdoguk

You have 2 connectors on the single IDE cable. So you can connect 2 IDE devices only. You have to decide on which two you'll use in the new system.

Reply to GhislainG

ok im happy with that .. just the thing about flahing the bios whats this all about . how do i avoid this ? with having 1 ide HDD and 1 ide dvd drive ?

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Reply to sniperdoguk

sniperdoguk wrote :

ok im happy with that .. just the thing about flahing the bios whats this all about . how do i avoid this ? with having 1 ide HDD and 1 ide dvd drive ?

You wont, your friend clearly doesnt know what he's talking about, flashing the bios is basically updating it, and to do that you need to use a floppy or usb to update it, which is done manually, it would be pretty damn hard to do it on accident.

Reply to tweak13

^ +1
That's one of the more reduculous things I've heard. There's no chance using an empty IDE optical drive will cause a BIOS flash.

Asus is actually one of the more IDE friendly boards. They were one of the last manufacturers that I found still making 2 IDE ports on their boards. They don't anymore, but they were one of the last.

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Reply to aford10

my IDE HDD wont be empty il need to reformat it in my asus

Reply to sniperdoguk

Actually it can flash the Bios. Mine did when i tried to use an ide dvd drive with my asus maximum formula 2. Same with Asus P5n board's they only accept ide dvd drives too. If there is no dvd to boot from it tries to boot from dvd. Which fails and then further asks if you want to update the bios with the one on the hard drive (assuming there already is a windows os on there). This is not possible to happen when a blank hard drive is attached.

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Actually it can flash the Bios. Mine did when i tried to use an ide dvd drive with my asus maximum formula 2. Same with Asus P5n board's they only accept ide dvd drives too. If there is no dvd to boot from it tries to boot from dvd. Which fails and then further asks if you want to update the bios with the one on the hard drive (assuming there already is a windows os on there). This is not possible to happen when a blank hard drive is attached.

^ all i got to say is 'wow'. Not even close.

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Reply to aford10

^ I concur. Probably a troll.

Reply to smithereen

im really confused im building it 2moro someone give me steps when i put both IDE DVD drive in with the IDE HDD. thanks

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Reply to sniperdoguk

sniperdoguk wrote :

im really confused im building it 2moro someone give me steps when i put both IDE DVD drive in with the IDE HDD. thanks

That motherboard has a single IDE connector. The IDE cable allows for 2 IDE devices. Choose which ones you want to install: both DVDs and no IDE hard disk or one DVD and one IDE hard disk. Why don't you get a SATA hard disk or a SATA DVD-RW if you need 2 DVDs? A new faster SATA hard disk makes a lot of sense.

Reply to GhislainG

na no money atm .. =/ no job lol

so il put my DVD in with my HDD .

Reply to sniperdoguk

Anonymous wrote :

Actually it can flash the Bios. Mine did when i tried to use an ide dvd drive with my asus maximum formula 2. Same with Asus P5n board's they only accept ide dvd drives too. If there is no dvd to boot from it tries to boot from dvd. Which fails and then further asks if you want to update the bios with the one on the hard drive (assuming there already is a windows os on there). This is not possible to happen when a blank hard drive is attached.

most ridiculous thing i've ever heard.

Considering I HAVE the asus maximus II formula board.

And I did have IDE dvd drives - before replacing with SATA drives.

Windows (anything) does not contain BIOS upgrade to flash with.

And clearly you dont know how to even change the boot order of something in bios.

Please refrain from posting incorrect information - youre doing nothing but confusing this guy even more.

Reply to tweak13

thanks tweak13 for your help

so putting in y ( IDE ) DVD drive in the slave socket and my ( IDE ) HDD in the master connecting to the board - also noting that my HDD will have my info from my old pc aswell as my OS which i guess i need to reformat ect .. on this new pc so i turn it on and i do what please write this in steps .. thanks

Adam

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Reply to sniperdoguk

You may not need to format and install windows on the HD. You can try to repair the current windows install.

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Reply to aford10

id rather reformat seing as this one has all my old drivers and its kinda ugged with a virus

Reply to sniperdoguk

guys just looking at my HDD atm and my Jumper pins are set like i just ook a look in my pc atm and its like this

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now thats running 2 dvd drives and i know im gona be using only the DVD drive and the HDD what should the jumper be set as

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Reply to sniperdoguk

sniperdoguk wrote :

guys just looking at my HDD atm and my Jumper pins are set like i just ook a look in my pc atm and its like this

[:] : : :

now thats running 2 dvd drives and i know im gona be using only the DVD drive and the HDD what should the jumper be set as

I would make sure the hdd is set as master, and the dvd is set as slave. I cant tell you if that's a correct jumper set up though, reason being, it usually says ON the HDD label or the back of the HDD what the jumper settings would be (it varies slightly for each company). If it's not on either you can check the manufacterers website or the manual.

Reply to tweak13

^ +1
The settings do vary. But that is usually the master jumper setting.

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Reply to aford10

People forget but make sure you have the HDD as master and the DVD drive as slave. Or at least thats the way it used to be.

My old Asus mobo had IDE and I had a IDE drive and a DVD burner without any problems or attempts to flash the BIOS.

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now thats running 2 dvd drives and i know im gona be using only the DVD drive and the HDD what should the jumper be set as

http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/ [...] NGLISH.pdf

Reply to cmichael138

sniperdoguk wrote :

thanks tweak13 for your help

so putting in y ( IDE ) DVD drive in the slave socket and my ( IDE ) HDD in the master connecting to the board - also noting that my HDD will have my info from my old pc aswell as my OS which i guess i need to reformat ect .. on this new pc so i turn it on and i do what please write this in steps .. thanks

Adam

Very simple... Once you get your jumpers set correctly like the nice people told you above me.... HDD as primary master, DVD1 as your slave drive... simply turn on the pc, get to the bios screen usually Del or F8 dep on the manufacturer... change boot device to reflect your dvd drive as boot first in the line up..... this step is unecessary if you have a boot option from your board manufacturer but regardless if you do it that way it will work... Now exit saving your settings and reboot when it asks you to hit any key to boot from cd rom or dvd rom press the ANY KEY... sorry I had to.... follow the on screen instructions for installing windows... I usually always delete all the partitions and create a new one... (unless you have it split with data you want saved on another logical partition on that drive) and format before installing.... NOTE.... after your first restart while installing windows go into your bios screen and change the order again to reflect IDE HDD1 as your 1st boot device... otherwise it will give you the same msg over and over again.... (to boot from CDROM press any key...)

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