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January 12, 2009 12:51:37 AM

This is my 1st ever build and 1st ever forum post. I'm looking to build a system that is somewhat future proof for the next 2-3 years, is wireless and does just about everything for a reasonable price. I want to be able to play the top games well, stream video etc. through xbox 360, direct tv, and Fios internet, and eventually set up a moderate music studio. I want to be able to do graphic arts, computer progamming (including writing games), and creation of sophisticated databases (using Access 2007).

Tell me what if what I have chosen is okay. Which case is better, Antec 1200 or Cosmos S 1100? I'm concerned about the CM V8 not being able to fit into the Cosmos and I'm afraid the side fan may break. I like the fact that it has handles though.

Which Motherboard is better the UD5 or P6T Deluxe? Is wanting 3way SLI capability enough of a reason to select the UD5?

Can I do a Raid with the 2 WD's? If I do a Raid which one should I do, 0, 1, or 5? Do I need a 3rd HD? With my lack of knowledge is OEM going to be a problem?

Have I selected enough power at 750W if I plan to do 3way SLI?

I couldn't find any consistent information on the best ways to make my desktop wireless and what equipment is best for gaming. Does anyone have any info about this?

Opinions on the the other items and monitor and peripherals would be helpful.

Thanks.

Here is what I have come up with so far:

Twelve Hundred ATX Gaming Case - $189.99
http://microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?pro...

or

COOLER MASTER COSMOS S RC-1100-KKN1-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case – Retail $219.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor – Retail – $294.99 Free Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD5 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
2 oz cxopper PCB & support 3 SLI/ 3 ATI crossfire - $298.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The only reason I chose this rather than the Asus P6T Deluxe is for its 3-way SLI capabilities.

Corsair Memory
TX750W 750 Watt ATX 12V Power - $139.99 ($40 rebate)
http://microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?pro...

EVGA 896-P3-1258-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 SSC Edition 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card – Far Cry 2 - Retail - $289.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive – OEM – (2 @ $79.99) $159.98 Free Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooler Master V8 Nickel Plated Copper Base Aluminum Fins 8 Heatpipes CPU Cooler - (RR-UV8-XBU1-GP) - $57.77 (9.95 shipping)
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-V8-Aluminum-Heatpip...

SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S223Q – OEM
Verbatim 4.7GB 16X DVD+R LightScribe 30 Packs Disc - Retail Combo - $42.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Diamond TV Wonder HD 650 PCI Tuner Card - PCI, Digital/Analog Tuner, FM Radio, Video Encoder, PVR, EPG, Vista Certified – price $104.95
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

Would a Hauppage or Avertvmedia be better?

Koutech IO-FPM220 3.5" Floppy Drive & Multi Card Reader Front Panel – Retail - $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The D-Link Xtreme N PCI Express Desktop Adapter (DWA-556) price $56.75 (shipping 6.20)
http://nowdirect.com/exec/partInfo/part_detail.tsb?prcp...

Would this be good for Xbox 360?

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM - $5.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Samsung Touch of Color T240HD 24" LCD HDTV - 1000:1, 1920 x 1200, 1080p, 5 ms, ATSC, HDMI, DVI, Rose/Black $389.99 (4.99 shipping)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

Are there any better 24inch monitors than this?

This is about $1,650 with the Antec 1200 case (w/o monitor) and $30 more for the Cosmos S case.

Peripherals:

Logitech G15 2-Tone 104 Normal Keys 29 Function Keys USB Wired Standard Gaming Keyboard – Retail - $89.99 (new version)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Logitech MX Revolution Rechargeable Cordless Laser Mouse
Catalog #: LTMXREVOLUTION MFG Part #: 931689-0403 $77.95 (shipping 4.95)
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=LTMXREVOLUT...

Logitech QuickCam Pro 9000 Webcam
Catalog #: LTQCAMPRO9000 MFG Part #: 960-000048 $79.95 (shipping 3.95)
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=LTQCAMPRO90...

Logitech - G9 - Laser Gaming Mouse price - $54.99 (shipping 7.99)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

LINKSYS WGA600N IEEE 802.11a/b/g, IEEE802.11n Draft Ethernet Port Dual-Band Wireless-N Gaming Adapter Security features: WEP, WPA WPA2 with TKIP OR AES, WPS Security key bits: 256 bits - Retail - $89.99 (Good Amazon.com reviews)
http://microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?pro...

Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit for System Builders - OEM
$50 gift card by mail-in rebate w/ select components, ends 1/31 - $179.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks.





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January 12, 2009 3:00:28 PM

Wow, you get a prize for the longest post ever.

The CoolerMaster is way larger than the Antec 1200.
24.7" x 10.5" x 23.5" (D x W x H) vs 22.9" x 8.4" x 20.2"
If in doubt, get the CoolerMaster.

I personally prefer Gigabyte to Asus, but others prefer Asus. Both are good boards.



January 12, 2009 3:03:11 PM

RAID: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID

Yes you can do RAID 0 with 2 or 3 drives. Good choice, WD6401AALS. OEM means no SATA cables. You get some cables with the MB, and you may need to buy some more if you get many disk drives.
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January 12, 2009 3:05:28 PM

Moskilz said:

Which Motherboard is better the UD5 or P6T Deluxe? Is wanting 3way SLI capability enough of a reason to select the UD5?


Have I selected enough power at 750W if I plan to do 3way SLI?

The only reason I chose this rather than the Asus P6T Deluxe is for its 3-way SLI capabilities.

Corsair Memory
TX750W 750 Watt ATX 12V Power - $139.99 ($40 rebate)
http://microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?pro...

EVGA 896-P3-1258-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 SSC Edition 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card – Far Cry 2 - Retail - $289.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



No. The Corsair 750TX will not support three GTX 260 cards. Get a Corsair 1000HX instead.
January 12, 2009 3:25:56 PM

LOL! It was a rather long post. Sorry, I was a little excited.

Thanks for the tip on the Case dimensions.

Since this post I have been given advice to not go with a 3way SLI. So I will probably opt for the Asus P6T Deluxe motherboard because of the good reviews I have heard about their stability and BIOS.

Thanks for the link about RAID. It looks like Raid 5 would be the best for data storage security. I guess I would need a 3rd drive. Any advice on what to get for the 3rd drive?

Any thoughts on the monitor and peripherals, or what wireless card to get?

Thanks for your help.
January 12, 2009 3:33:13 PM

Get a third WD6401AALS. It's one of the best drives available, and besides if you do RAID it's very smart to have all identical drives.

Samsung makes excellent monitors, in general. That T240 is good. There's also an Acer 24" at Newegg for $340, their best-selling 24" monitor. Either of those should be good.

If you want a gaming mouse you're better off with a corded one rather than cordless. There's less lag, and you don't risk running out of batteries at the worst possible moment in the game.

No idea about wireless, sorry.



January 12, 2009 8:54:53 PM

I would be using the wireless mouse for work and the corded mouse for gaming.

I don't want to spend more than $400 on a monitor, and haven't heard anything bad about the T240HD accept that it is a TN monitor. So far I think that monitor is a winner.

I have Verizon FIOS Internet and talked to them today. The tech suggested getting a 2.0 USB adapter and said they have gotten just as fast as the PCI wireless cards. He said the Verizon FIOS routers currently are only a/b/and g cabable and that any manufacturer should work with the router without many problems.

Do you know anything about the optical drives I chose? How about the tuner?

With my set-up will I be able to do graphic art/design, game publishing, and database management?
January 12, 2009 10:40:59 PM

The SH-S223Q is very good.

I've never seen the Diamond Theater 650, but my Dad has an ATI version of it and he's happy with it. You'll probably want some smart software for it, like BeyondTV for example.

Yes that setup will do anything you want, if you have the appropriate software.

BTW, it will work a lot better if you also buy some RAM. Without RAM, it won't do much, you know.

For this kind of platform, the usual choices are 3x1GB DDR3 and 3x2GB DDR3. Not all DDR3 types work with x58/i7. Since this PC is for work, and your budget is good, I'd say 6 GB is worth it.




January 12, 2009 10:48:09 PM

Here's an example:

G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9T-6GBNQ - Retail $145
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231223

or this one, if you're considering overclocking:

G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ - Retail $175
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231225
January 12, 2009 11:31:22 PM

As aevm suggested, that Acer 24" is also a great choice. That's what I'm going with on my i7 build.
January 12, 2009 11:35:28 PM

Thanks for the advice. I accidentally left off the RAM. My list should have had the G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ - Retail $175
January 13, 2009 11:10:43 AM

I bought this RAM

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
for $232.00

Should I have bought
G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ - Retail $175
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231225 ?

What is the difference other then the Price?

My CPU is i7 920.
January 13, 2009 11:44:28 AM

I would think that the Corsiar ram has better quality of memory chips, ie only the highest performing chips get used. That allows greater and more stable overclocking.

There is also a difference in timinga at their rates speeds:

Corsiar @ 1600 8-8-8-24

G.Skill @ 1600 9-9-9-24
January 13, 2009 11:51:43 AM

Damn this crap where you cant edit posts grrrrrr.

anyway I meant to add:

There is alot of choice regarding ram for i7 builds, 1066, 1333, 1600, and beyond. I personally went for 1333mhz ram and use tighter timings.


Regarding wireless gaming mice, I have used the Logitech MX1000 laser mouse for the last 4-5 years with no complaints. The batteries last for ages (im talking a week maybe under normal gaming). True latency is longer but TBH I have never noticed any problems.
January 13, 2009 11:53:01 AM

So I paid $57.00 more for better latency.......

And that I can say I have the Dominator.......lol
January 13, 2009 9:10:36 PM

I guess I'll start pulling the trigger on some of this stuff. I'll keep you posted on how things go.
January 13, 2009 11:30:17 PM

Good luck with the build!


You do know about electrostatic discharges, right?
January 14, 2009 1:20:50 AM

I have a couple of resources that talk about how to ground yourself and keep the components safe. I'll also be testing components throughout the build. If I get up enought nerve and everything goes okay I may put the build on Utu
January 14, 2009 1:27:10 AM

Thanks. I have a couple of resources that talk about how to ground yourself and keep the components safe. I'll also be testing components throughout the build. If I get up enough nerve and everything goes okay I may put the build on utube to help others go through the process.
January 14, 2009 11:05:45 AM

aevm said:
Good luck with the build!


You do know about electrostatic discharges, right?


Could you tell me a little about grounding?

Thanks

Mark
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