Please Read and comment!!! Need HELP!

[micahtheman13]

Is this a good build for around $440? (price includes shipping and tax in my area.)

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Case:

Rosewill TU-155 Black 0.8mm SGCC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 400W ATX12V Version 2.2 Power Supply - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147001

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Motherboard:

ASRock A780GXE/128M AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157139

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Hard Drive:

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500AAKS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136161

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Memory:

(TWO OF THESE......) Kingston HyperX 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KHX8500D2/1GR - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104012

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CPU:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000 3.1GHz Socket AM2 89W Dual-Core Processor Model ADV60000DOBOX - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103272

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Graphics Card:

GIGABYTE R465OC-1GI Radeon HD 4650 1GB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125253

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Total before shipping: $373.93

Total after shipping: $401.72

Total after shipping and tax in my area: $437.87

 

[dirtmountain]

I'd change the case to this one, same price, but a more recent version of Rosewills 450w power supply.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147030

This Athlon64x2 7750BE (includes HSF) CPU and the Biostar 790GX in a combo deal for $153 or the same price as what you had listed. Can use DDR2 1066 RAM and ACC.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138128

This HD4670 512, same price or $70 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121274

The same price or slightly under, better performance, better upgrade path.

 

[micahtheman13]

I disagree with all of your products except the case.

 

[shortstuff_mt]

WOW, you sure don't know how to take suggestions. If you don't agree with a recommendation, that's fine. Just keep your childish comments to yourself. Do you really think anyone will want to help you when you make stupid comments like that? The motherboard and GPU dirtmountain recommended are superior to the ones you chose, but apparently you don't agree. How many posts are you going to make asking about this build?

 

[micahtheman13]

well from the reviews mine were superior to that one in reliability and the GPU isn't really because it is a 512kb and mine is a 1gb...so why is the 512 better? and I accepted the case thank you!

 

[micahtheman13]

I also don't plan on alot f upgrading and adding to this build. This is one that will last me at least three years so I can get more money to build a good one.

 

[micahtheman13]

ok I added all of those together and this is the price before rebate and after shipping: $426.72

after shipping and tax before rebate: $462.12 which is way over my budget.

my budget after shipping tax and so on is about $435.00 as of now so I don't really have the money to spend not that it isn't better its just i don't have the money

 

[shortstuff_mt]

GPU RAM has little effect on performance. The 4670 has a faster CPU clock speed, faster RAM speed, GDDR3 vs. GDDR2, etc... Between the 4670 and the 4650 for the same price, the 4670 is the obvious choice. Here's a link to their specs:

http://www.geeks3d.com/?p=981

 

[micahtheman13]

ok thanks...what about the Heat sink for the CPU? do I need to buy one?

 

[shortstuff_mt]

The stock heatsink will work fine unless you want to overclock quite a bit. On your budget, I'd stick with the stock heatsink. You can always add a better one later if you need to.

 

[micahtheman13]

Ok just wondering because the CPU didn't say it came with one. Thanks!

 

[micahtheman13]

Now I need to find more money so I can buy it instead of drooling over it . But I guess really anything is better then my Dell Dimension 2400.

Another Q. Does the manuals show you where to plug everything?

 

[shortstuff_mt]

The specs on the AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000 3.1GHz show "Cooling Device Heatsink and Fan included". The AMD Athlon 64 X2 7750 doesn't say it includes a HSF, but if you can trust the newegg reviews, a lot of them talk about the heatsink.

Yes, the manual will explain things pretty well. Be sure to carefully read the manual before you try to put anything together.

 

[kubes]

Might want to read this as well...

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

 

[micahtheman13]

ok thanks! which processor is better? the X2 6000 or the X2 7750? and what does it mean by 3.1 GHz compared to 2.7 GHz?

 

[shortstuff_mt]

The 7750 is newer and based on the same platform as the Phenom (in fact, it's just a Phenom with two cores disabled). The 7750 is faster clock-for-clock, so the 3.1GHz vs 2.7GHz question is kind of irrelevant. Here's an article you might be interested in:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/athlon-x2-phenom,2104.html

You'll notice that the 6000+ and 7750 go back and forth in the benchmarks.

 

[micahtheman13]

Ok thanks! you have been alot of help! Hope to buy it in a bout two weeks! might ask about another build just to be sure I am on the right track because who knows what the prices and upgrades will be then.

 

[delta_c0re]

Here's an article you might be interested in:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/athlon-x2-phenom,2104.html

You'll notice that the 6000+ and 7750 go back and forth in the benchmarks.

That test's reliability is questionable, as it doesn't include OCing at all. The 7750(BE), clock for clock on stock clock speed is about the same as the 6000+, but who gets a Black Edition and doesn't OC it? In light of the fact that the 7750BE is the EXACT same price as the 6000+, I'd go with the 7750 any day.