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April 12, 2009 7:01:32 PM

Hi all I'm somewhat conflicted. I see that the new socket types from amd and intel have forced down the prices on the older am2 and 775 systems. It is well past time for me to build a new for myself system as my current rig doesn't handle much of what i throw at it anymore (athlon single core 2.2ghz on a 754 1 gig ddr-400 (running at 333 damn socket 754) ati 1650). My question is is worth building new on the outdated platforms to take advantage of the cost savings or buck up for the am3 or 1366 platforms to ensure upgradablity and future proof my system. I do not think that my computer use is heavy enough to warrant a quad, as I've gotten by with a single for so long, but on the other hand I only build for myself when my rig can no longer handle my needs.

What the "normal" uses of my computer entail
light gaming, file and ftp server, occasional encoding, gimp (linux photoshop knock off), web browsing, word processing yada yada yada. normally run linux and have gotten somewhat adept at run level 3 to save system resources but would prefer to go back to using the gui even for the heavy lifting tasks.

part of me feels that a q6600 and a 9800gtx would take me a decade to outgrow but I'd hate to be locked into getting a whole new rig in 2 years or paying an arm and a leg for upgrades if i find it inadequate.

anyway let the comments fly, cause whatever i get will be worlds above what i have.
April 12, 2009 7:21:03 PM

considering most hardware is deemed obsolete in 2 years time, an AM2 or a 775 either one would get you by that long if not longer. doesnt sound like your trying to build a Crysis killer to me, more of a casual user. good luck with your choice.
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April 12, 2009 8:47:36 PM

does anyone know if there is going to be any price cuts after the 20th?
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April 12, 2009 9:16:03 PM

Just to play devils advocate. I wonder how long backwards compability will be guaranteed though we all remember the am2 am2+ thing. I say this leaning tward a good 790gx based am2+ motherboard and a kuma, with the idea of popping in an am3 cpu in the future if I find i need the extra hp.
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April 12, 2009 11:48:14 PM

With your applications, I don't see you being able to make use of anything more than a nice core 2 duo like the E8400.

The GTX250 is probably a better card today than the GTX9800. Add 4gb and a basic P45 mobo and you should be good for a while.

Spend any extra on a second or nicer monitor. That is probably the only future proof thing you can buy today.
April 12, 2009 11:49:29 PM

@ soldier37
Everything about that pic looked good... nice sound system, nice setup, razer mouse (props btw... I prefer the blue over the white myself), alien figurine, then I noticed 3 things...

1) Only one monitor... not a big deal but I couldn't be without 2 now that I've gotten used to it ^^
2) iPhone... or maybe it's an iPod Touch? Just a little pet hatred I have for both of them anyway.
3) Hand lotion? REALLY!?
April 13, 2009 12:13:53 AM

well hell if i'm gonna step up to a 720 or 810 i might as well spend the extra $50-$75 to get an am3 motherboard and ddr3 ram, then i might as well spend the extra $200 to step into a i7. *Sigh* so torn. The problem is that for the first time in my life money is not a major issue, it's getting the most for it that is. I do want to thank all of you though, you've all been helpful.

As for the hand lotion though kraynor, i think that was hand sanitizer but thats just my guess.

I was under the impression that the 9800gtx and the gts250 were one and the same, just different stickers, though not to hijack my own thread it seems that for an extra 30 bucks (after a rebate you may or may not get) you can now get a gtx260

i remember when this was easy, you had low end, mid range, and cutting edge and not a hell of a lot of choice in those catagories (486 dx2-66 or 486 dx50 hmmmmmm).

Now to boil down all thats been said, the answer is........... for my needs yes is still makes sence to build a system on the dying platforms of 775 and am2 and that a properly build system on said platforms will take me years into the future before it's limitations become crippling to my rather modest day to day use. Unless that is i fall inlove with fps again (though this is unlikely, but a trip through hl2 and doom 3 for old times sake is always fun)
Once again thanks for the input, and feel free to keep tossing out the comments, it's nice to see such a flame free thread while discussing both amd and intel.
April 13, 2009 12:26:38 AM

I'd go Phenom II. I noticed when you were talking about bumping up small amounts of money....50 up for an AM3 platform, and 200 more for i7? That's a pretty big jump.

Considering the Phenom II X4 955 (AM3) is coming out in 8 days, i'd wait to see how that does and then decide your next course of action.
April 13, 2009 12:35:49 AM

a big jump yes but considering all the fellation the i7 has been getting.... worth a thought, i mean whats two bills spread over 4 years. Anyway, I think that is the best advice, and just what i am going to do. Wait till the 20th launch and see the price fluctuations in the following week or two after and hopefully capitilize on them. I've gone this long another month or less won't kill me.
April 13, 2009 12:50:28 AM

You're looking at 200 bucks more for a 22% performance increase.
Yeah just wait for the 955, its not too far away and i'm hearing impressive rumors of 4.0ghz on air.
April 13, 2009 2:41:43 AM

Go socket 775 and get a quad core... even though you don't need it now it will future proof the rig for many more years than a dual core would.
April 13, 2009 10:44:45 AM

mamw93 said:
Go socket 775 and get a quad core... even though you don't need it now it will future proof the rig for many more years than a dual core would.


Future proof the rig? 775 is dead.
April 13, 2009 12:39:29 PM

The 775 still has plenty of life in it, it is only dead to enthusiast and those that have to have the latest hardware.
April 13, 2009 12:58:03 PM

I think the two obsolete options would be fine. It doesn't sound like you would upgrade before the next several platforms are released. :p 

nah seriously i wouldn't recommend i7 or am3 to anyone who doesn't plan on upgrading before the next platform is released unless they want cutting edge performance.
April 13, 2009 11:02:31 PM

do you know the anticipated release date for the socket 1156? I think that a 32nm dual core would be just about perfect for my 24/7 system and it's effect on my power bill, but after googling all i get is "later this year". Not to throw gas on what may be a fire but didn't intel just release the 1366 socket, what is it doing releasing another so soon?
April 13, 2009 11:05:52 PM

1366 is for the enthusiasts. It was for i7.
April 13, 2009 11:12:04 PM

so then the plan is for the 1156 to be the true replacement for the 775 containing the bulk of intel processors. Or is this gonna be intels socket 754 (1156) and 939 (1366)? Or is it just to dang soon to tell?
April 14, 2009 5:53:12 PM

All this "futureproof" ideas are in practice only "squeeze out maximum $$$". You will never be futureproof and this is why you shouldn;t bother getting the "cutting edge performance" i7 or similar as long as you don't need it (and only some of us would REALLY need it, moreoften they only think/perceive so)

rosenberg aren't you too long in this to allow them to rip you off ?...especially in case of processor/graphics as these do not require much effort to replace them. Get a good mobo with say cheap and good E2160, after a year change it to Q6600 or rather better on ebay...... time is money :)  Same in case of am2+

In cases such as yours your next need to change will probably take place when one platform ahead of 1366 will be like s775 today..cheap! And as you mentioned you don't know if s1156 will be like s754 or not...

hand lotion ... LOL
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April 14, 2009 7:50:59 PM

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According to page 10 of Maximum PC's "Intel details 32nm cpu's", Westmere is a budget 32nm dual core that will debut in s1156 this year with dual channel memory and includes a graphics chip.
It also says the 32nm hexacore is named Gulftown and SHOULD debut in s1366 with triple channel memory early next year. Between Gulftown and Westmere will debut Lynnfield a 45nm quad in s1156 with dual channel memory support and no grahics chip.

So now I'm really confused.

So either Maximum PC is wrong or your link is wrong.

No, Maximum PC agrees with the Intel roadmap. They both say 32nm on the Intel 5 series (not x58 though) chipset with mobile dual cores first, followed later by 6 core 32nm parts for x58. The point of the Intel roadmap link is to show that it's a bit more than rumor that states that there will be 32nm parts compatible with the current x58/LGA1366 setups.
April 14, 2009 8:14:49 PM

Need is such a strong word, i know all i need for now is a mid range dual core, because i use my wifes mac book (2.4ghz core2duo 800mhz fsb) for all of my heavy lifting computing needs. I also do not fall fully into the enthusiast crowd either. But i see nothing wrong with buying a system that makes you happy, one mans rip-off is another's joy. If people only every bought what they needed mac would only sell about 1/4 of their pros and forget about the i7's that have been flying off the shelves.

The question originally posed was "was it still worth it to build on the dying platforms" the answer seems to be a resounding yes. Now I have to evaulate my own lazyness about system building and balance it against my budget and needs. Last time I built i went the el-chepo route with a socket 754 based rig with a semperon and an ati 9250 with a whopping 512 megs of ram. It suited my needs when build but soon i and software outgrew it. I e-bayed up to a athalon when the sempie could no longer do what i needed, increased the ram to 1 gig, bought an ati 1650 when the 9250 was no longer supported in driver releases, and all that tinkering, and shopping, and getting linux to jive took time. Now the rig can no longer do what I require of it and the upgrade path is dead so it's time for a new build. However, my situation is somewhat different, I make alot more money (really a hell of a lot more than last build), i have alot less time (really a hell of a lot less than last build), and i no longer use e-bay after they started asking for my phone number.

As you said time is money, and time spent tinkering with my rig is some of my valuable free time that i don't get back (not that i really mind, but my wife will probally start to choke me at some point). I just want something solid that i don't have to futz with for another two years, and if in two years there is still an upgrage path that dosen't require paying prices that make no sence at all (case in point a socket 478 pentium 4 3.0 ghz was selling for $80 on the egg??!? when a kuma goes for $65), I will be more than pleased, and if not, i'll dust off my old toms account and start another thread much like this.

And just to recap, no one so far really thinks is a bad idea to build new on am2+ or 775 for someone that has modest computer needs 90% of the time.
April 15, 2009 1:00:22 AM

yeah , go am2+
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April 15, 2009 2:26:59 AM

would it be a good idea to go am3 though? assuming there won't me an am4 anytime soon or w/e... then when you upgrade, you'll only have to upgrade your processor (say, phenom II 720 to something better) and ram?

not to hijack the thread, but i'm considering the same thing as well... i just want to pick a motherboard that will last me a long time :p 
April 16, 2009 11:53:03 AM

If a newer platform would make you happier I would defiantly go for the newer one. If you don't care enough to ask for people to push you to one side fence then I would probably go for the obsolete options although I can't visualize myself in this situation.
April 16, 2009 12:02:36 PM

well the debate is more am2+ or i7, there is so little price difference between am3 and i7 now it's a no brainer.
April 16, 2009 12:09:04 PM

Personally I stuck with AM2 because I have 8G RAM I didn't want to have to replace.
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April 16, 2009 1:00:22 PM

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Wait for s1156 this year. The first 32nm release will be s1156, not 1366.


Same kinda story for AMD, Socket G or whatever is gonna replace Am2+/Am3.
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April 16, 2009 1:00:50 PM

If I was you, I'd try and wait, if possible.
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April 16, 2009 7:40:17 PM

Helloworld_98 said:
well the debate is more am2+ or i7, there is so little price difference between am3 and i7 now it's a no brainer.


errr don't think that's true... cpu + mobo + ram, i7 still murders am3 in costs :S plus, i7 works well with 6 gb ram, whereas am3 you can stick with 4gb (which is actually enough for most people)

amdfangirl said:
If I was you, I'd try and wait, if possible.


well cmon, there's always something new around the corner.

April 16, 2009 9:10:14 PM

i agree with the always something new around the corner, and the time for waiting is over, my rig can not do what i need it to 100% of the time. the price difference between an am3 system and an am2+ system is maybe $75 (maybe less if you take a more bargin approach to your am3 system), mainly due to the increased cost of ddr-3 and the slight price premium that am3 boards are commanding.

However i got my eye on a DFI am2+ board that has dropped to reasonable levels, for a dfi I could still get a am3 board cheaper, never build with DFI always heard great things, and always wanted to (i've used asrock (bleah), a couple biostars (good), asus (real solid), pcchips (worst junk ever made, threw it out after a month), and i think a gigabyte once for someone else). The am2+ socket also seems to have the most felxability at the moment being able to run everything from old semperons all the way through the most current am3 phenoms, where as the 775 has most likely seen all the cpu's released it will ever see.

but those are just my current thoughts, i still gotta save for a couple of weeks or the wife will surely pitch a fit seeing as I did just buy a motorcycle, but hey it's spring!












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April 16, 2009 9:41:08 PM

yeah dfi's overclock really well... i dunno. i think the question should be changed to "am2+ or am3" really... 775 is pretty much out of the question (it's a dead socket now)

if you don't care about futureproofing (even a little bit), then 775 can be considered, but i doubt you don't care at all.
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April 17, 2009 12:56:36 AM

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well cmon, there's always something new around the corner.


Yes, you can indenfiatly upgrade... then, your computer will be eternal.
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April 17, 2009 1:16:18 AM

what? eventually you'll have to replace your motherboard and ram... so your "computer" will be gone.

depends how you define computer i guess?
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April 17, 2009 2:17:16 AM

Nah, plenty of my friends get bored of their new toys and I get a new computer.

Like my new old E7200 computer.
April 17, 2009 5:57:12 AM

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rosenberg1979 said: I agree with the always something new around the corner, and the time for waiting is over, my rig can not do what i need it to 100% of the time. the price difference between an am3 system and an am2+ system is maybe $75 (maybe less if you take a more bargin approach to your am3 system), mainly due to the increased cost of ddr-3 and the slight price premium that am3 boards are commanding.

Hi,

First let me thank rosenberg1979 & All who replied to this great thread. I deleted my Wish List at Newegg with a 775 Upgrade & replaced it with the AM3. I've been reading & researching now for 2 weeks, this thread ends my search.
This AM3 should last me another 3-4 years & might have a Future after that.

My first build was my last build 4yrs 4mo ago...I play Games, World of Warcraft fps is down to 15+ in Dalaran city & Diablo3 will be out next year.

Quote:
GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #:GA-MA790XT-UD4P Item #:N82E16813128378 [$139.99] mir $15 avail. & Free Optical mouse w/ purchase, while supplies last
***NOTE: Return Policy:30 Day Return Policy ***

Compared to: GIGABYTE GA-MA790GP-UD4H AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #:GA-MA790GP-UD4H Item #:N82E16813128384 [$129.99]
***NOTE: Return Policy:Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy ***Ouch!

AMD Phenom II X4 810 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 4MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail [$174.99]

I need help with RAM, any suggestions or comments welcomed?
Thanks again 1979, btw is that your birth year ? [mine is 1941]
April 17, 2009 7:44:08 AM

Jim937 said:
Quote:
rosenberg1979 said: I agree with the always something new around the corner, and the time for waiting is over, my rig can not do what i need it to 100% of the time. the price difference between an am3 system and an am2+ system is maybe $75 (maybe less if you take a more bargin approach to your am3 system), mainly due to the increased cost of ddr-3 and the slight price premium that am3 boards are commanding.

Hi,

First let me thank rosenberg1979 & All who replied to this great thread. I deleted my Wish List at Newegg with a 775 Upgrade & replaced it with the AM3. I've been reading & researching now for 2 weeks, this thread ends my search.
This AM3 should last me another 3-4 years & might have a Future after that.

My first build was my last build 4yrs 4mo ago...I play Games, World of Warcraft fps is down to 15+ in Dalaran city & Diablo3 will be out next year.

Quote:
GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #:GA-MA790XT-UD4P Item #:N82E16813128378 [$139.99] mir $15 avail. & Free Optical mouse w/ purchase, while supplies last
***NOTE: Return Policy:30 Day Return Policy ***

Compared to: GIGABYTE GA-MA790GP-UD4H AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #:GA-MA790GP-UD4H Item #:N82E16813128384 [$129.99]
***NOTE: Return Policy:Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy ***Ouch!

AMD Phenom II X4 810 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 4MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail [$174.99]

I need help with RAM, any suggestions or comments welcomed?
Thanks again 1979, btw is that your birth year ? [mine is 1941]

Get the 790X board and add the new ATI Radeon HD4770.
Get 4 gigs of OCZ ram - if you want performance ram, check their press release last couple days released new "AMD" ram - has fancy specs, if you know ram, but that's hi-perf ram - OCZ is good name and lifetime warranty.
Get 8 gigs if you will run windoze 64 bit or linux.

note = the 2nd board u mention is 790gx w onboard vid and sok am2+ - the am3 cpu will work there also. if you are doing a vidcard get the 790X. If not doing vidcard, the GX is good - performs similar to the X, but the X has better PWM mosfets power handling. (8+2 phase).
April 17, 2009 9:39:55 AM

sure is, just turned 30 and it wasen't so much fun.
As for vid cards always check the tom's monthly best it's a great place to start as you can compair based on your budget
As for ram i personally use either kingston or corsair, i've never had any problems with either (but then again, i've never bought ddr3), 8 gigs is overkill if you run linux (my instilation uses much less than a gig even when i got a bunch of things going on) I have no idea on windows64 though
April 17, 2009 11:50:30 AM

rosenberg1979 said:
well hell if i'm gonna step up to a 720 or 810 i might as well spend the extra $50-$75 to get an am3 motherboard and ddr3 ram, then i might as well spend the extra $200 to step into a i7. *Sigh* so torn. The problem is that for the first time in my life money is not a major issue, it's getting the most for it that is. I do want to thank all of you though, you've all been helpful.

As for the hand lotion though kraynor, i think that was hand sanitizer but thats just my guess.

I was under the impression that the 9800gtx and the gts250 were one and the same, just different stickers, though not to hijack my own thread it seems that for an extra 30 bucks (after a rebate you may or may not get) you can now get a gtx260

i remember when this was easy, you had low end, mid range, and cutting edge and not a hell of a lot of choice in those catagories (486 dx2-66 or 486 dx50 hmmmmmm).

Now to boil down all thats been said, the answer is........... for my needs yes is still makes sence to build a system on the dying platforms of 775 and am2 and that a properly build system on said platforms will take me years into the future before it's limitations become crippling to my rather modest day to day use. Unless that is i fall inlove with fps again (though this is unlikely, but a trip through hl2 and doom 3 for old times sake is always fun)
Once again thanks for the input, and feel free to keep tossing out the comments, it's nice to see such a flame free thread while discussing both amd and intel.


DDR3 ram is a waste. Its a waste on any platform. You are going to be stuck with newer chipsets as apposed to the slightly older and far more reliable chipsets. Grab yourself a nice AM2+ MB and an X3 for gaming. If you multitask alot then one of the x4s will do. Price and performance are on your side. I7s are in no way a good ratio atm.
April 17, 2009 2:34:25 PM

Jim if that's true then I have loads of respect for you for that much of vigour & interest like you were <30 :) 
this enthusiasts market is suprising ;) 
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April 17, 2009 3:46:15 PM

jerseygamer said:
DDR3 ram is a waste. Its a waste on any platform. You are going to be stuck with newer chipsets as apposed to the slightly older and far more reliable chipsets. Grab yourself a nice AM2+ MB and an X3 for gaming. If you multitask alot then one of the x4s will do. Price and performance are on your side. I7s are in no way a good ratio atm.


yes, DDR3 may be a waste ATM, but if you buy the AM3 motherboard, you can upgrade CPU and RAM later... this is what i'm getting at. is my logic flawed or something? i guess it depends on when Socket G comes out, but i've never heard of this until now.
April 17, 2009 9:44:23 PM

I was thinking the same thing when i started this thread, but after all the debate, and some of my own reading, i'm no longer sold on am3 at the moment. It seems that all of the first generation phenom 2's will have an integrated ddr2 memory controller as stated in the amd "key architectural features" brief, and hopefully, the new athalon's will as well (although i've heard rumor that the athalon will be, in essance, the new semperon). You are not benifiting form new chipsets at the moment either as both north and south bridges are the same for both sockets. This will most likely change as the am3 socket matures and new chipsets are released for am3 only, but as of now it seems to be a bit of a waste.

correct me if I made an error in my logic leap, otherwise thanks for the steerage posters of THF
April 18, 2009 2:22:44 AM

winh8r said:
Jim if that's true then I have loads of respect for you for that much of vigour & interest like you were <30 :) 
this enthusiasts market is suprising ;) 


Hi,

It's true I'm 67yrs Young, a Gamer & Comp Geek Wannabe, I think it's the Gaming that keeps my Mind young/sharp, as for my body I've been in good health all my life.

I found this TH Choosing Parts Guide by Proximon, that I would like to share:

Guide to Choosing Parts

I started my own thread in "General Home Built" after I left here...the replies are not what I was expecting after putting so much time & research into my AM3 Build. However that is why we are here, I'm thankful that so many nice Folks [Geeks :love:  ] are willing to share their knowledge with me.

AM3 Gaming Rig
April 18, 2009 5:41:30 AM

I have spent the past couple of weeks playing with different set ups on newegg.

I'm not a biased buyer, I want whats goings to give me the best bang for my buck, no matter what company is selling it, whether it's AMD, Intel, Nvidia, or ATI. So far a complete core i7 build on newegg is only 100-200 bucks more expensive then a Phenom II build. But if you go off of Tom's CPU chart. the i7 is easly 2x more powerful then 3.0ghz phenom.

So imo, I think i7 is the way to go now. Everyone is overclocking i7 to crazy speeds with ease, and going for an AMD set up is only going to save you 100 or so bucks. Just go i7.
April 18, 2009 11:21:33 AM

airborne11b said:
I have spent the past couple of weeks playing with different set ups on newegg.

I'm not a biased buyer, I want whats goings to give me the best bang for my buck, no matter what company is selling it, whether it's AMD, Intel, Nvidia, or ATI. So far a complete core i7 build on newegg is only 100-200 bucks more expensive then a Phenom II build. But if you go off of Tom's CPU chart. the i7 is easly 2x more powerful then 3.0ghz phenom.

So imo, I think i7 is the way to go now. Everyone is overclocking i7 to crazy speeds with ease, and going for an AMD set up is only going to save you 100 or so bucks. Just go i7.

See this thread for some extra insights before your final decision. Although, I don't think it would kill you to pay the extra money for i7 (don't scream at me, AMDFanGirl!!!)
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/260345-28-comp-build#...
Good luck.
April 18, 2009 11:37:20 AM

This is true but only if you really need or want the power of an i7 or a deneb, thought x58 mobo's can be just silly priced esp for the ones with 6 slots for two sets of triple channel ram. Right now i'm looking at an am2+ based rig (mobo, cpu, gpu, ram) that will have room to grow (920's 940's, 810's and the 955 are not going anywhere anytime soon) and will be much more than 2x as powerful than my current pitiful setup and comes in at under 4 bills. As low as i could really get with an i7 was just about double. Worth it, probally, worth it for me, probally not.

Thanks again users of thg for giving me direction, I started this thread oh so confused and conflicted, and now i think i have made up my mind.

p.s. just checked newegg and the 920 is now 164 with free shipping, preperation for monday?
April 18, 2009 11:45:54 AM

rosenberg1979 said:
This is true but only if you really need or want the power of an i7 or a deneb, thought x58 mobo's can be just silly priced esp for the ones with 6 slots for two sets of triple channel ram. Right now i'm looking at an am2+ based rig (mobo, cpu, gpu, ram) that will have room to grow (920's 940's, 810's and the 955 are not going anywhere anytime soon) and will be much more than 2x as powerful than my current pitiful setup and comes in at under 4 bills. As low as i could really get with an i7 was just about double. Worth it, probally, worth it for me, probally not.

Thanks again users of thg for giving me direction, I started this thread oh so confused and conflicted, and now i think i have made up my mind.

p.s. just checked newegg and the 920 is now 164 with free shipping, preperation for monday?

I'd really love to go with Phenom II, because I really want to give AMD a go, and I really hate the look of the prices and temperatures and i7's. Most will be able to stick with LGA775 for a good couple more years, although for people still running P4s etc, they'll be used to the high temps anyway :lol:  it might be worth the upgrade. I agree, prices of i7 rigs are astronomical, but at the same time I envy people running i7s.
April 18, 2009 12:09:48 PM

Envy yourself if you can leave money for a fast SSD or faster GPU, or save up money to buy a newer system more quickly (like every 1,5 / 2 years instead of every 3 years). That would give you more up-to-date hardware and also leave you with multiple systems in the end, which you might use or sell or give away to family.
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