Is LGA775...done?

[doomsdaydave11]

So, with the (kinda) recent release of the fantastic LGA1366 platform, is LGA775 now done? Granted, low end C2D's and Pentiums are still gonna sell well into the next year, but I'm talking about the performance sector. I've been happy with my E8400 @ 3.6Ghz for about a year now, but now it looks like I won't be able to just upgrade the processor again like I hoped. I really don't feel like buying a new motherboard and RAM kit to upgrade the CPU. Everyone knows that a $40 4GB kit of DDR2-800 is nearly as good as a DDR3-1600 kit that costs 3 times as much.

Is something like the Q9650 really the best thing I can upgrade to, in maybe a year or so?

 

[Silverion77]

I doubt Intel will release any more 775 chips so in that regard its "done"

But i believe it will still hang around awhile as i7 is not a necessary upgrade atm and Core 2 Duos and Quads perform very well

 

[loneninja]

There won't be anything new except maybe higher clocked parts, but even that I doubt. An overclocked C2Q is the best 775 will ever see.

DDR3 actually isn't that expensive, you can get 4Gb of budget DDR3 1333 for as little as $40 right now, although that is on sale. Regular prices are still under $70.

 

[rooseveltdon]

it's not really a dead platform many mainstream and retail computers will probably come with core2duos and core2quads for years to come, while the enthusiats and gamers will move towards the phenom ll line and the i5 and i7's....but no the 775 is far from dead.

 

[The Third Level]

775 is dead updatewise, but not use-wise.

 

[kevin1212]

Let's not forget those new low power core 2 quads, they're quite impressive. With time they would be more affordable as well. A 3.0 GHz 65w q9650 is a pretty big upgrade from an e8400 as far as I'm concerned, especially considering that games are moving towards multi-core platforms.

 

[98silvz71]

So, with the (kinda) recent release of the fantastic LGA1366 platform, is LGA775 now done? Granted, low end C2D's and Pentiums are still gonna sell well into the next year, but I'm talking about the performance sector. I've been happy with my E8400 @ 3.6Ghz for about a year now, but now it looks like I won't be able to just upgrade the processor again like I hoped. I really don't feel like buying a new motherboard and RAM kit to upgrade the CPU. Everyone knows that a $40 4GB kit of DDR2-800 is nearly as good as a DDR3-1600 kit that costs 3 times as much.

Is something like the Q9650 really the best thing I can upgrade to, in maybe a year or so?

Let's not forget those new low power core 2 quads, they're quite impressive. With time they would be more affordable as well. A 3.0 GHz 65w q9650 is a pretty big upgrade from an e8400 as far as I'm concerned, especially considering that games are moving towards multi-core platforms.

I'm with you. I love my E8400, best thing since I experienced HT in my ol Prescott. I too am not wanting to upgrade to a new board or ram to get a new processor. I have been thinking about getting the Q9650 for awhile now and I think that will be able to hold me over for a couple of years. That way the hype will die down, all the bugs worked out, and maybe the prices will fall.

 

[Zenthar]

Same situation here with a E3110 (E8400), haven't even OCed it yet (but will do once I get some parts replaced). I made this build planning to switch to a Quad when more games will benefit from it ... and if not there is probably not much to gain from i7 anyway .

 

[simplyderp]

Socket 775 is far from being 'done.' I advise not to buy into the early hype and spend $500+ on a platform that you will see diminishing returns on, unless you're rich or don't care where your cash is being wasted. Seeing as you haven't upgraded to an i7 platform yet, you're probably not one of those guys that absolutely *has* to have the best hardware no matter what.

 

[doomsdaydave11]

Socket 775 is far from being 'done.' I advise not to buy into the early hype and spend $500+ on a platform that you will see diminishing returns on, unless you're rich or don't care where your cash is being wasted. Seeing as you haven't upgraded to an i7 platform yet, you're probably not one of those guys that absolutely *has* to have the best hardware no matter what.

Definitely not, especially when an E8400 is more then enough for me (cept' Crysis of course... duh). Probably around Q1 of next year, I'll be looking at a new CPU in the $180-$200 price range. Hopefully whatever the socket of choice is then will be actually up to date this time around. I'd kinda like to go back to AMD, if they'd just stop making sucky chips. Always been a fan of the underdog . The Phenom II's and future chips do look pretty promising, however, especially at their price point.

If they do release a 65w Q9650, that would be rather awesome. Maybe more overclocking headroom?

I really haven't had much luck overclocking this C0 E8400... 3.6Ghz at 1.32v seems like the highest it will go. Makes me sad when I've heard of other people running 3.8Ghz at stock voltage

 

[mamw93]

Here is what you do. Get a Q6600 and an aftermarket CPU cooler that supports 775 and 1366. Overclock the hell out of the CPU and enjoy it until you need a full upgrade. In the mean time don't buy anything that won't transfer to a new build in the future (i.e. more RAM.) I would suggest getting a 32GB or so Solid State Drive and put windows on it for great Windows boot times and performance.

 

[nightsilencer]

I'm with you. I love my E8400, best thing since I experienced HT in my ol Prescott. I too am not wanting to upgrade to a new board or ram to get a new processor. I have been thinking about getting the Q9650 for awhile now and I think that will be able to hold me over for a couple of years. That way the hype will die down, all the bugs worked out, and maybe the prices will fall.

The E8400 will hold you over for the next 2 years. (2011)

A Quad like the Q9650 will last you a good 3-4 years. (2012-13)

PS: software isn't moving all that fast to keep up with hardware. Remember that Q6600 is ALMOST 3 years old! and there's still no game that takes full advantage of it.

So yeah, to all of you worrying about having a Duo, just don't. They are excellent CPUs.


They WILL still last a long while.

 

[jsc]

Yes, the C2's will last a long time. After all, there're still plenty of people using P4's. But the Intel performance and mainstream market will move to the i5's. All it will take is the i5 equivalent of the Q6600.

 

[rags_20]

Well, like you said, not everyone can afford i7. Just like MS released Vista and people still wanted XP, people who cannot spend too much money will still use Core 2.

Let's see what happens after the release of Lynnfield. And Intel is going to release another socket. LGA 1156, great. Just great! Its going to be a P55 chipset and will support DDR3 dual channel. Core i5 is expected to start from $185. It is the mainstream version of Nehalem. It is again Quad with hyperthreading.

 

[Helloworld_98]

yeah but there is little point in core 2 duo's anymore.

the ol' 720 BE beats them for less or a tad more and the 720 will still outdo the i5's because they're limiting the cache to 4mb which would be the equivalent to a 3mb phenom. also the price will be ridiculously high and they will be worse due to loss of SMT which is what gave the i7 it's high plus points, take away SMT and equal the QPI/HT and phenom beats i7 and i5.

 

[rags_20]

They're using 8MB L3 caches with i5. Read my other article.

 

[BadTrip]

Do you have a Crystal ball or something? How do you know how i5 performs?

 

[rags_20]

Yeah. In my view, Intel always beats AMD.

 

[BadTrip]

Now, I didnt say that, but to say a X3 beats something that hasnt been released yet is foolish to say the least.

 

[Helloworld_98]

well just a guess by the specs since they are based on nehalem.

and I was comparing the dual cores to the tri cores which is amd's offensive againsts core 2's and havendale i5's.

currently the phenom architecture is the best on the market with Core 2 being about half as good and Nehalem about 3/4. If you take a nehalem based cpu and a phenom based cpu with the same specs the phenom will win.

 

[rags_20]

I'm mainly talking about Lynnfield i5

 

[BadTrip]

well just a guess by the specs since they are based on nehalem.

and I was comparing the dual cores to the tri cores which is amd's offensive againsts core 2's and havendale i5's.

currently the phenom architecture is the best on the market with Core 2 being about half as good and Nehalem about 3/4. If you take a nehalem based cpu and a phenom based cpu with the same specs the phenom will win.

 

[Helloworld_98]

I'm not sure about lynnfield, depends when it comes out, some say the first i5's come out in august but nobody in the general public knows which ones are coming out.

The next generation of amd cpu's come out in early 2010 so we'll have to see how they stack up. they might have a considerably revised core which makes phenom look like pentium 4 compared to phenom when you compare the phenom core and the next gen core.