LGA 1156 Core i5

Intel is going to release the LGA 1156 socket, as if LGA 775 and LGA 1366 aren't enough. This will be used by Lynnfield ( Core i5) and uses the P55 chipset. It is the mainstream version of Nehalem. It will support DDR3 only and in dual-channel mode.

Here's a pic from Guru 3D http://www.guru3d.com/news/core-i5 [...] 6-sighted/

And here's an Anandtech article: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipse [...] spx?i=3461

When will we first see 6/8 core CPUs from Intel/AMD?

That will again mean new sockets I suppose.

no, wasn't thinking about server chips in my first post.

they're might drop 1366 for desktops but keep it for servers due to the higher bandwidth.

and I believe the shanghai cpu will work on Socket F which is a current socket.

Do they really need to introduce new sockets one after the other? If you choose a socket, you're stuck with it.

It was a reference to the chipsets. I never said X38 and X48 used LGA 1366.

Yeah, but why market 2 sockets at the same time? They could've stuck with 1366 for mainstream or used 1156 for enthusiast.

They know that enthusiasts will pay more for their PC's and do so more often than people buying a mainstream pc. although one could argue i7 is in the mainstream now since you can get one for under $1000.

edit: also intel ran 478, 479, 603, 604 and 775 at the same time so it's not the worst they've done.

Well, we aren't really seeing games which can fully utilize 4 cores/ 8 threads other than GTA IV.

dont you guys get it? i7 1366 is server platform. Releasing X58 on 1366 gave them a cheap and fast option to sell their nehalems to consumers as well. This way then can differenciate the market while still selling the same product.

1156 socket will be the sensible reengineerd socket designed for business use and consumers. Ie lower idle power, cheaper to fabricate, no triple channel support. This senseable, since these business machines just dont need insane memory bandwidth. Im sure they will rerelease X58 for 1156 too.

In the end, you dont need server like bandwidth to play videogames. You need a high CPU clock and a GPU that is suited for your resolution. So 1156 will be sufficient even for top performance, and without the serverstyle costs.

Still i7 is pretty nice since enthousiasts have been able to cut in line and instantly get intels top architecture instead of waiting for it to be released to consumers.

Oh, why not? Its not P57, its P55. So, if buy i7 now, I will not be able to get Core i5. That stinks. Shouldn't that drop i7 sales among consumers?

Isn't 5 mainstream - P35, P45 and 8 enthusiast - X38, X48? Then where does P57 fit in?

So LGA 1366 supports 6-core? Also, will this 6-core CPU be true six core or 3 dual cores?

Isn't 6 odd? I mean, 1, 2, 4 ,8 isn't that the way its supposed to go? Even Phenom x3s have 4 cores physically.

So how powerful is the integrated graphics going to be? Just like Intel's GMAs or what? I really don't see the point. Even if you have integrated graphics, most people are going to get cards anyway.

Heh and i thought AMD was innocent with Socket A, Socket 754, Socket 940, Socket 939, Socket 940 "AM2", there dead end 4x4, AM2+ and now AM3? hmmmmmm.....

Reguardless of socket both companies are appalling when it comes to upgradability - manufacturers not making bios's or VRM designs to support future chips etc make "future proofing" a BS term - no such thing.

Socket 1156 is just the replacement for 775 - good riddens to the ageing FSB design that *still* puts AMD in place! (at a price), and second its the MAIN STREAM PRODUCT not high end like 1366 etc

apparently so!

Core i7 = MULTITASKING monster + great gaming performance, and since when does a system only run one app (aka a game) - no friggin way - your running firewall, antivirus apps, messenger/chat apps, file sharing apps plus windows - all that across 8 threads is sweet.

Also when a game isnt limited by the CPU or cant use multiple threads (or beyond 2-4 etc) ofcourse it reports a lower then 100% load, but why would you use a low end video card with a high end platform?

What Intel is trying to do here is make those "extreme" and high end markets use the i7 platform because of the capability of using 3+ video cards etc and tri channel memory (if not for performance then for sheer memory volume) and when you get that 8 core upgrade the tri-channel memory controller will make sence, where as that i5 platform with no QPI, dual channel and "only" 16 pcie lanes will start to limit its self.

How did you change your joined date? Take a look at this. TH was founded in 1996. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toms_Hardware

oh and the Integrated graphics - closer to the cpu/imc + the same production process should be an advantage (eg what, 90 or 65nm chipset production vs 45nm if integrated into the cpu, more cooling etc too) - not a massive jump but perhaps ~30% if we are lucky, but poor drivers will keep it below nvidia/ati alternatives but acceptable for basic use

yup same packing, die etc so same cooling, in the same socket etc

also makes the posibility of adding some sort of cache to the IGP, and adding more power each series, and perhaps extreme overclocking of the IGP? (although at the end of the day its an Intel IGP LOL)

ummmm yes you can - for a while now

No benchies yet, but here is a link to an Asian manufacturer who just got an ES of the Clarkdale:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] =clarkdale

The IGP is at 45nm while the CPU is 32nm. Supposedly the IGP has 4X the transistors of the standard Intel 4500 IGP

Of course

BTW - my 700th post - hopefully now the moniker under my avatar no longer says I'm "a dick"

[edit] OK now I'm an "old hand"... Wonder where Toms gets these nutty post-number designations from?? At least it doesn't say "old Fart!" LOL

Actually, the IGP will still be at a larger process than the CPU will. Though they are both in the CPU socket, it will still be 2 separate dies, with the CPU at 32nm and the IGP at 45nm.