LGA 1156 Core i5

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a 6 core is already out from intel, albeit it costs $1500 and is a 603 server chip.

6 core from amd? late 2009 and an 8 core from intel around the same time, the amd will come in server and desktop versions iirc, intels will only come in server versions.
 
no, wasn't thinking about server chips in my first post.

they're might drop 1366 for desktops but keep it for servers due to the higher bandwidth.

and I believe the shanghai cpu will work on Socket F which is a current socket.
 
They arent dropping 1366, where are you people supposedly hearing this from? Good grief. 1366 is for their highest end chips and Xx8 chipsets (X38..48...58..) which are the enthusiast market. LGA 1156 targets the mainstream and apparently whatever gap between that and enthusiast.
 


It was a reference to the chipsets. I never said X38 and X48 used LGA 1366.
 
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,9078.html
Intel postpones Core i5 launch (even further)

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13121&Itemid=37
We're not sure when to expect the actual launch, as we've heard August-September from some and now we're hearing as late as October. Maybe Intel is biding their time, as they don't feel enough pressure from AMD and the Core 2 range is still doing pretty well in comparison to the Phenom II.

The Core i5 platform isn't exactly exciting, as it seems to have a lot of drawbacks and very few advantages to the consumer over the Core 2 platform and unless it offer something better, we doubt that people will bother to upgrade, especially considering the current economic climate, which could also be a reason why Intel is holding things back.
 
They know that enthusiasts will pay more for their PC's and do so more often than people buying a mainstream pc. although one could argue i7 is in the mainstream now since you can get one for under $1000.

edit: also intel ran 478, 479, 603, 604 and 775 at the same time so it's not the worst they've done.
 
Intel's desktop will eventually settle into 2 main tiers - the i7 1366 high end and i5 1156 mainstream. And probably some Celery low-end tier as well.

Pay no attention to the fanbois claiming Intel will be dropping the high-end - according to Otellini during the Q1 conference call, Intel is happy that they've shipped over 1M Nehalem CPUs (which would be all i7's since the i5's aren't out yet). As prices continue to drop, the i7's will ramp up sales like the C2Quads, which the fanbois also said weren't selling about a couple years ago because they weren't "true quad cores". Deja vu all over again :).

In the meantime, netbooks are storming the market according to the Q1 report, despite or maybe because of the lousy economy. AMD forgot to compete here (well actually they have a Neo solution, but it stinks battery-life-wise according to some reviews, and that is the 2nd most important consideration when buying a netbook).
 
dont you guys get it? i7 1366 is server platform. Releasing X58 on 1366 gave them a cheap and fast option to sell their nehalems to consumers as well. This way then can differenciate the market while still selling the same product.

1156 socket will be the sensible reengineerd socket designed for business use and consumers. Ie lower idle power, cheaper to fabricate, no triple channel support. This senseable, since these business machines just dont need insane memory bandwidth. Im sure they will rerelease X58 for 1156 too.

In the end, you dont need server like bandwidth to play videogames. You need a high CPU clock and a GPU that is suited for your resolution. So 1156 will be sufficient even for top performance, and without the serverstyle costs.

Still i7 is pretty nice since enthousiasts have been able to cut in line and instantly get intels top architecture instead of waiting for it to be released to consumers.
 
no they won't release it for 1156

they have P57 instead.

this is all very confusing, I don't think amd is going to pull through and consumers might not be happy with i5 when it releases.
 
Oh, why not? Its not P57, its P55. So, if buy i7 now, I will not be able to get Core i5. That stinks. Shouldn't that drop i7 sales among consumers?
 


The reason is because some of the stuff on the current i7, especially the tri channel memory controller, is quite expensive as far as die space is concerned, as well as motherboard costs. However, they can't change the memory controller without also changing the socket. Therefore, if they want to make something competitive in the low end, it can't have stuff like tri channel memory, especially if they want to keep motherboards down to a competitive low end price. Therefore, they need a new socket for the low to midrange stuff, or else they can't make it cheaply enough. 1366 will stay however, and remain as the high end socket, including a 6 core Nehalem die shrink when 32nm comes.