Alright guys and gals i'm a complete noob to building/upgrading sysptems. What I'm really tyring to get is to be able to play WoW with decent frame rates. I currently have a stock Dell E521. The new expansion is eating up and spitting my system out while raiding 25 man raids. I ideally would "ONLY" like to replace my motherboard, processor, graphics card, Power supply, and RAM.
These are the components I'm lookin to adding
1. Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8500 (Processor)
I guess my question is can I just take the old parts out and put the new ones out and be fine. If not can I buy a new case put these parts in and remove anything else i'm missing from my old system and put it in the new one? REally hoping I can just take the parts out of the old one and put the new ones into the old case. Like I said I've never done anything like this before so any help you may give me is GREATLY appreciated.
It's probably not a good idea to try to upgrade your existing E521 by adding those components. You probably won't be able use your Operating System since it's tied to your motherboard. Your best bet would be to build a whole new system, it isn't as bad as it sounds since you're planning on replacing the major costs already.
You didn't list any specifics from your Dell E521, they come with different configurations. You may be able to just upgrade your graphic card to something like a HD4670 and possibly add RAM to get better performance.
Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows Vista Home 6.00.6001 (Service Pack 1)
Platform Compliance : x86
Windows Experience Index
Current System : 4.2
Performance Tips
Warning 100 : Large memory sizes should be made of Registered/Buffered memory.
Tip 2546 : Large memory modules should be ECC/Parity.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.
One easy upgrade choice would be to upgrade your graphic card to a HD4670 which run about $80. You should see some dramatic improvements with just the card. Another option would be to upgrade your processor, you might have to update your BIOS, but your motherboard... OCT103 .......does support faster Athlon64x2 processors ($45 - $80) You'd have to check with Dell support to see which processors/BIOS is needed. Those are your easiest and cheapest options.
The parts you had listed for your upgrade run about $500, if i were building a system for WoW at about that price here's a list of what i'd buy. It isn't the equal of the E8500 you picked, but it is decently fast for the price.
Sucess! After researching all over the web. I'm writing in hopes of helping someone. I just upgraded CPU in my Dell E521 with Nforce 430 chipset, 6150LE integrated video to an AMD 3.1 GHZ Athlon 64 X2 6000+ ADV60000DOBOX with no problems. With one exception, my bios is 1.0.3 and when I upgraded my bios to 1.1.10 , my bios wouldn't remember settings and would loop until I hit F12 and enter the boot setup, and boot into Windows. This may or may not happen to you but I had to revert back to 1.0.3. I know this topic is old but I hope it can help someone wanting to upgrade their Dell E521. This is the best CPU for the E521!!! I was able to overclock it using CBID and ClockGen. Run CBID and change the multiplier to 15. Run ClockGen and change the speed to 3.392 GHZ!!!. I guess I'm just lucky! You better buy before AMD discontinues this product!
Oman read my post above. I just upgraded 2 days ago. For you I highly recommend do the following: 1. Upgrade your CPU to AMD 3.1 GHZ, currently it's only $76 at newegg.com 2. Replace your memory. Purchase 4 sticks of Kingston Hyper X memory $17 each now at Kingston.com Part#KHX6400D2/1G And if gaming is still slow, upgrade your video card but make sure it fits in your case. I'm sure you'll find a huge boost after doing those 2 things.
Thanks! No problem, I'm just really happy and want to spread the word and save others the hell I went through. Oman, if you never worked on a pc , you should find a qualified and trained pc technician to do it. Also I used Arctic Cooling MX-2 thermal compound and my CPU is 28-30 Idle and 45 celsius playing games. One more thing you won't be able to use the heat sink that comes with the CPU, you're going to have to use Dell's proprietary heatsink. Maybe you don't need to overclock if you're not up to it. Good luck!
Message edited by rolf on 01-21-2009 at 12:12:35 PM
Oman read my post above. I just upgraded 2 days ago. For you I highly recommend do the following:
1. Upgrade your CPU to AMD 3.1 GHZ, currently it's only $76 at newegg.com
2. Replace your memory. Purchase 4 sticks of Kingston Hyper X memory $17 each now at Kingston.com Part#KHX6400D2/1G
And if gaming is still slow, upgrade your video card but make sure it fits in your case. I'm sure you'll find a huge boost after doing those 2 things.
Sucess! After researching all over the web. I'm writing in hopes of helping someone. I just upgraded CPU in my Dell E521 with Nforce 430 chipset, 6150LE integrated video to an AMD 3.1 GHZ Athlon 64 X2 6000+ ADV60000DOBOX with no problems. With one exception, my bios is 1.0.3 and when I upgraded my bios to 1.1.10 , my bios wouldn't remember settings and would loop until I hit F12 and enter the boot setup, and boot into Windows. This may or may not happen to you but I had to revert back to 1.0.3. I know this topic is old but I hope it can help someone wanting to upgrade their Dell E521. This is the best CPU for the E521!!! I was able to overclock it using CBID and ClockGen. Run CBID and change the multiplier to 15. Run ClockGen and change the speed to 3.392 GHZ!!!. I guess I'm just lucky! You better buy before AMD discontinues this product!
Hey Rolf,
I´m very glad I found your post. I too have been researching the web for some time now for information about upgrading my E521. I was also looking at the 64 X2 6000+ to replace my 64 X2 4200+, but I don´t know if I can safely do this as I will be using the old heatsink. So I would like to ask you: What was the original CPU in your E521? Was it a 4200+ or more powerful then that? Does it make a difference? I wouldn´t want to fry a brand new cpu :|
Hey Rolf,
I´m very glad I found your post. I too have been researching the web for some time now for information about upgrading my E521. I was also looking at the 64 X2 6000+ to replace my 64 X2 4200+, but I don´t know if I can safely do this as I will be using the old heatsink. So I would like to ask you: What was the original CPU in your E521? Was it a 4200+ or more powerful then that? Does it make a difference? I wouldn´t want to fry a brand new cpu :|
If your airflow is good, you shouldn't have to worry. I reinstalled my dell e521 into a plasma tv chassis to get around the freaking annoying! btx form factor case. I am running everything in open air with directed but not guided air flow and my temps are peachy. Just go for it and run an occasional temp sensor like one through SIW. Your computer should shut down before frying anything.
Also I am disturbed by the direction that the original poster went when he experienced poor gaming quality. The biggest differences you can make are: graphics card, memory, and then I/O speeds to harddrive arrays.
These fixes cost much less, and I can't imagine how you managed to find a modern motherboard in BTX....
I also have a Dell E521 and looking into Athlon 64 x2 6000+ 3.1 but I am worrying about the DELL cpu heat sink. Is there a way to replace it with a better one?
Message edited by udaman on 08-02-2009 at 08:20:59 AM