[Solved] I5 750 or i7 860 which one is better and y

hey all
i m gonna buy a new pc this month


but i m still confused with three things

1

which processor i should buy i5 750 or i7 860 and y many people say amd is better than intel i dont know anythng about this amd processors so plz tell me

2

what is this over clocking and wat is the use of it and how we do it and do we need some other things for this over clocking, i read something like corsair with this overclocking wat is this? do i have to buy any thn else with my pc for over clocking

3

for i5 750 or i7 860 do i need a cooler master elite 335(some body told me to buy it) is it just a cabinet? if yes then y is it preferable to buy cooler master only y not iball cabinet or atx?


and also please tell me which company hdd is better i m gonna buy 1tb so should i buy a seageate one or wd?

Detailed information will really help me

processor is all about preference. what do you plan on using the pc for? gaming, graphics? multi tasking? between the i5-750 and i7-860...the i7-860 is better and more expensive. fanboys are gonna tell you one is better than the other, but it comes down to this...amd is more budget and intel is more performance. if you have a budget, the amd is the route to go under 200 bucks for processor.

overclocking is a complex operation using the bios setting on the motherboard to increase the performance, typically the processor, but may also include the graphics card and ram. this is very tricky and is too complex to explain in this short amount of space. i would suggest reading related articles by using the search feature on this website or just google it.

again, pc cases are a matter of preference and how much equipment you plan on cramming in there. there is no right or wrong, as this choice is not bound by compatibility issues...just pay attention to how much you can spend and how much air flow you need for the components you have.

the hd is not going to matter when it comes down to a basic one...the 1 tb 7200 rpm all perform about the same...but seagate or western digital are generally the most reliable ones...i would go with either.

if you have any other questions, i would be happy to try to answer them to the best of my ability. just read up as much as you can and get as much knowledge as possible, as this is a very complex thing and screw-ups can be costly

this is the current config that i decided to buy

processor: i5 750 or i7 860
motherboard: DH55TC
Ram: Kingston 4gb(2+2)
HDD: 1tb seagate
cabinetlease tell me this one acc to my config so that it keeps my pc cool

if you think that any changes should be done in this config then please tell me


and yes i m gonna use my pc for developing purposes and for designing and video editing too, i m gonna use Visual studio 2008, oracle, adobe products(as4,photoshop,drmvr,and other designing products)

and i m gonna use vmware to boot approx three os



i m not a addicted gamer i used to play small games like road rash and nfs underground and hot pursuit 2 thats all wat i play

so this is all what i need a pc for

and my budget is $800-$900 for full pc and for the cpu with cabinet it may be like 600 or some


and thanks for this great reply

where do you live? the reason i'm asking is that microcenter had some really good deals on some of the parts you were looking to buy which could save you a good amount of money vs the egg.

acha one more thing that core 2 duo has a clock speed of 2.93 then y i5 750 has 2.66 plz tell me this

i5-750...$200
kingston ram 2x2...$100
DH55TC mono...$100
seagate 1tb hd...$75
coolermaster elite 335 $50
windows 7... $200
power supply....gonna vary depending on graphics card $50-$100
graphics card...$50-$600
monitor...$100-$300
$725 before you factor in power supply, graphics and monitor. i paid $1200 for my full pc and it's a very modest set-up, so it gets very expensive to build your own

one more thing what is hyperthreading, will it going to make much diff as it is not in i5 750 but it is in i7 860?


i mean due to this feature and some .20 ghz of clock speed and 4 threads more should i pay more $ on i7 860?

and some body please tll me how cooler master elite 335 look as i saw its image on google and i found many blue lights blowing there i didnt like that? so is it the same in reality?






which motherboard i should buy with i5 750 and i7 860, tell me for both of them, the person from whom i m buying the pc told me that i should buy DH55TC and i found on google that it belongs to H55 chipset, this H55 chipset is suitable for dual core systems like for core 2 duo and other i5 dual cores but i5 750 is a quad core so which one i should buy for i5 750 and i7 860 please tell for both

i saw the link i have a doubt if i purchase the cooler master elite 335 then will i get the power supply with it? if no then which one i should buy?

and please help me to decide a motherboard which works gr8 with i5 750 and for i7 860 i prefer to get motherboard of intel or gigabyte? is this the right filteration?


and also please tell me that am i ryt with this H55 and P55 concept?

thanks

pleas reply fast as my vacations are coming to an end thanks

Buy the gtx 460, its a great card.

ok and what about the motherboard? thanks

oh and i have overclocked my i5 750 to 4 ghz, so it is a pretty awesome cpu for overclocking, i read in pc format that the ud2h is a good board 4 overclocking for its price, if u are going 2 overclock ur cpu make sure u have an aftermarket cpu cooler, i use the gigabyte G power II pro

Hi there,
You still haven't stated what you intend to use the PC for. It makes a big difference in terms of what components you should be getting, especially for the CPU.

The i5 750 is one of the best gaming CPUs you can get. Yes, the i7 will be faster for multi tasking and multi threading, but in terms of gaming the performance increase is very very little. Many games out there use only 2, sometimes 3 cores so hyper threading won't have any benefits.

For an i5 750 motherboard, IMO you should go with a P55 chipset over the H55 as it is better. My recommendations are either ASUS P7P55D (Pro or Deluxe) or an quivalent Gigabyte board. These are about $180.

For a GPU, again, depends if you're gaming. A great choice right now is the GTX 460 1gb as was mentioned above. That's $230. If you want to go cheaper, you should look at an HD 5770 or maybe a GTS250.

The best thing for you to do is to keep looking and researching what you want. There's a lot of info out there comparing CPUs, GPUs, everything. Inform yourself before making such a big investment.

Hope this helps.

Ok well for development software, many are more supportive of multithreading. In that case, the i7 860 is definitely the way to go since it has 8 logical cores. Unfortunately I do not know if those specific programs do support multi threading. I think you should definitely look into that yourself.

That being said, what you've picked looks pretty good. For a PSU, my recomendation would be a Corsaire 650TX. It's a superb unit.
For graphics card, a 9500GT will work but I can't see why not get something with a little more power, at least a 9800GT or go with the newer architecture like a GT240. I got a GT 240 for $45 after rebait, can't beat that.

The motherboard looks fine. It's a microATX so you can get a pretty small case if you want.

For a CPU cooler, if you plan to leave it stock then you don't need to worry about it. If you want to overclock it a bit for more speed, the it's almost mandatory to get one. But the size you can get is limited by the size of the case you get.

But yeah, looks like a decent build so far.

wat problems u suffered? and for gt 9500 i decided to buy gigabyte p55m ud2

so do i have to change my choice of motherboard for gt240? or this p55m ud2 will work greatly

please tell me more about 9800 gt how is it and did anybdy here used it? and gordon did u used 9800 gt as u told me about the problems that u suffered plz somebody tell me about any problems if u faced with 9800 gt?


Power supply

do i actully have to spend this much money for corsair 650tx
i havent purchaesd any thing till now so any suggestions regarding changes will really help me not wasting my money

wat abt cooler master psu and how much watt?

the corsair 650tx is an excellent psu(i own it), its realible and strong, and it will also give you a great oppurtnity for any future upgrades, also corsiar is one of the better companies out there, if you dont plan on doing any future upgrades, you could probably get away with a 450 watt model.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

and i m asking this again as it is a major issue please tell me which company hdd is better to buy

seagate or WD
i m gonna buy 1TB
thanks

please reply to this one also

and what abt 9800 gt? and if i go for i5 750 and graphic card 9800 gt now and buy the motherboard gigabyte p55m ud2 then in future if i upgrade it to i7 860 then will my motherboard and graphic card support it?

thanks and yes one more thing u said that i should buy any 450 watt psu so can i go for cooler master or should i buy corsair 450

If the i7 860 uses the same socket as the i5 750, no problem there. I'm not sure about the sockets, though, so perhaps other input here?

The graphics card will support any board with a PCIE 2.0 connector, so yes.

Careful with power supplies, there your safest bet is to go with name brands. Personally, I'd go for the Cooler Master option.

Aftermarket cooler refers to the CPU heatsink when it has been replaced with an upgraded version. OEM CPUs ship with a heatsink bundled, and this is referred to as the 'stock' or 'OEM' heatsink - OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer. By replacing the heatsink with a Cooler Master V8 or Tuniq Tower, you are installing aftermarket cooling, or an aftermarket cooler. I cannot really advise much here again, since 90% of my cooling expertise involves liquid cooling or phase-change, or several industrial systems like evaporative cooling and immersion convection cooling.

Overclocking may or may not help you, depending on what you are doing. If you are spending hours in a word processor or spreadsheet, or on the web, don't bother.

For software development, I think the only improvement you will see from overclocking is while compiling, and for best results stress-test the system VERY thoroughly to ensure there are no errors - a single error during compilation will make the compile fail, and it is incredibly frustrating to go through several thousand lines of perfect code only to find it failed because the CPU itself glitched. Experience talking, it was not fun.

Graphic design/photo editing might show an improvement in performance during manipulation of the data, but my experience is very sketchy here. Your mileage may vary.

If you are going to be spending plenty of time around the machine, you might want to upgrade the cooling anyway in order to keep noise levels down.

^ pretty much everything Mugz said.

Just to clear up the sockets, the 1156 socket is used for the i3, i5 and i7 8xx series. Only the i7 9xx series use a different socket type, so yes you can upgrade from an i5 750 to an i7 860 (although now the 870 just dropped in price big time, defintely a good option)

And as for air cooling, a well liked and very well priced heat sink is the Hyper 212+. It's fairly good and only costs around $30. If you want better you'll be paying $60 or more.

http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx? [...] 1315,48498,

Basically if your programs support mulithreading then yeah, the i7 860 or 870 will be faster than an i5 750. You need to figure that part out tho, since you know what you'll use. If you're just going to run Office then it won't matter.

The difference between 860 and 870 appears to only be the clock going from 2.8 to 2.93ghz, and it only costs an extra $14. Probably worthwhile to just get it if you're not into overclocking.

9800GT was a good card 3 years ago. It'll still run most things at least decently well. You might consider upgrading to at least a GT240 or GTS 250 which are a better architecture and faster. I think the GT240 is comparable to a 9800GTX, and you can find them for quite good prices... I got one for $45 after rebait.

That is true, if doing multithreading then the 1055T is a great 6 core CPU and around the same price as an i5 750. It's not anywhere near as good as the 750 in games, but beats it in many other applications. I do not know how the 860 compares to it tho, as the 860 has 8 logical cores. However, the 860 is also quite a bit more $.

Only some versions of GT 240 are 2 slots. EVGA should be a single slot.

And you might as well go with the i7 860, it'll be a very good CPU.

please give me the link for the graphic card gt240 which has one slot and is it the best option for me if i buying i7 860 with motherboard gigabyte p55m ud2


and if i go for i7 860 over i5 750 and buy motherboard gigabyte p55m ud2 with gt240 and with psu cooler master 450 watt as corsair 650 tx is very costly

please tell me is corsair 650 tx really worth buying and do i really need it as it is very costly than cooler master

no prblm if it is costly i can spend money on that but only if it is really gr8 for me i mean for my configuration(i7 860 gigabyte p55m ud2, gt240)

thanks

Between the 860 and the 870 you will not notice much difference.

Literally half the GT 240s on Newegg are single slot...

As for PSU, there is a big difference between 450W and 750W. You don't need 750W tho for a GT240. IMO go with a Corsair 550VX as it's quite a bit cheaper than the 750TX.

Corsair is second to none in quality PSUs.

For the rest of it... seriously, do some of your own research... it's great to get advice but you keep asking the same questions. I wish you luck with it.