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These threads are done till dead I realize, but I still need some help here.

AMD Phenom(tm) II X3 710 Processor (3 CPUs), ~2.6GHz
3326MB RAM OCZ Sli ram
1 TB WD Greenpower
ATI Radeon HD 4870
Windows Vistaâ„¢ Business (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.090302-1506)
Asus M3A78-EM/CM

I seem to be getting very poor performance in this game from what I think is the CPU, 1280x800 with everything lowest I'm pulling below 30fps. All other games close to or beyond maximum and I have no idea what to do. Thinking it's the CPU based on testing around with the settings.


Message edited by ryokinshin on 04-21-2009 at 08:51:35 PM
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no it might be the ram actually, crysis really needs 4gb to have max performance.

Reply to Helloworld_98

The thing is I'm running the game minimum and it's giving me this lag.

Reply to ryokinshin

go to the control panel|power options and make sure high performance is marked.
Maybe its cool and quite having a issue.
Also be sure everything you can is turned off in the task manager.
See if that helps a little.



Message edited by pat mcgroin on 04-21-2009 at 09:40:58 PM
Reply to pat mcgroin

if you aren't playing multiplayer then unplug the ethernet and disable the antivirus while you play.

Reply to Helloworld_98

Tried turning everything off, and tried disabling CaQ and enabling it, same results.

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Reply to ryokinshin

wow i play crysis on high, 2AA, 1440x900 at 30-35FPS with

AMD athlon x2 6000
2GB ram
9800GT

I know you have Vista and need more ram for that then XP but still you should have better FPS then that. Any chance you can switch crysis to Direct 9.0 from 10.0?

Reply to ct1615

I doubt your CPU is truly holding you back. I tested Crysis on my quad and it barely used much of all of it.

You could try OCing your CPU to say 3GHz and upping the res as the res you are playing at is a bit more CPU dependant so the GPU is not getting a workout.

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Reply to jimmysmitty

THe underlying problem that my CPU is crippled is really bothering me though, anyone have any insights into this?

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Reply to ryokinshin

grab gpuz and make sure your gfx card is actually running at rated clocks. if not use rivatuner to set them. then disable cool & quiet in the BIOS. Its not your RAM ive got 2Gb and i average about 45-50 fps on all High settings (Dx9) at 1920x1080


Message edited by mcnuggetofdeath on 04-21-2009 at 11:50:38 PM
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Reply to mcnuggetofdeath

why do you think that your cpu is crippled?

Reply to 13thmonkey

The clocks are fine.

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Reply to ryokinshin

It may be the RAM, did you buy a 3GB tripple channel kit? Phenoms only support dual-channel. Try taking one GB out and see if dual channel mode helps.

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Reply to B-Unit

I have 4gb, but Vista 32 and it is in dual channel. I'm thinking it is affecting more then just Crysis, all games in general.


Message edited by ryokinshin on 04-22-2009 at 01:01:05 AM
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Reply to ryokinshin

Well, what drivers are you using?

What motherboard are you using, and did you install the drivers for it?

Have you had this problem in any other game?

Did you update Crysis to at least 1.2? This fixes a buttload of issues like this.

Reply to jedimasterben

Asus M3A78-EM/CM this is my mobo, I know about the bios being the latest, the drivers were from the disc. This is a problem in generally all the games I guess.

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Reply to ryokinshin

Anyone?

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Reply to ryokinshin

dude something is way off. i usually play crysis with max settings on mine at 1680x1050 with no AA or anything and i get ~ 30 fps. you need to reformat + update drivers from the website NOT the cd.

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Reply to werxen

Whoops, so much for reading the last line of your specs.

I agree with werxen, at the very least upgrading drivers. What version of Catalyst Control Center / display driver are you running?

The current CCC is 9.4, which has display driver 8.6 in it. I'd grab that from the AMD site and see if that fixes it.

Edit:

Here's a link to the file for Vista 32-bit:

https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/gamesite/9-4_vista32_win7_32_dd_ccc_wdm_enu.exe


Message edited by jedimasterben on 04-22-2009 at 05:10:19 AM
Reply to jedimasterben

I just reformatted and it is the latest driver. My memory timings are 6/6/6/18 if that is the problem?


Message edited by ryokinshin on 04-22-2009 at 05:42:08 AM
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Reply to ryokinshin

from the website or the cd....?

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Reply to werxen

I don't even use the CD, I must address that I am competent with computers, although I can't seem to find out what is up with this particular problem.

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Reply to ryokinshin

hmm ok... well try this:

see what score you get in 3d mark.
also another noob thing, make sure your video card is ENABLED and not your mobo video card.

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Reply to werxen

Can things like MSN, Thunderbird, Windows Sidebar, etc. kill game performance?

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Reply to ryokinshin

check you power options and make sure everything is set to high performance. Under the advanced option look for processor power management. make sure the minimum and maximum state are set to 100% You can also go into your bios and disable any kind of speed stepping (forgive me as I don't know what it's called for AMD CPUs).

Reply to PsyKhiqZero

Where is the processor power management? Using Vista Business.

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Reply to ryokinshin

Yes, things like MSN, Thunderbird and Windows Sidebar can kill performance. I'd use AMD Fusion to disable them, and every other background process, automatically. They hog RAM and CPU time, and some of them can trigger 2d mode and kill your graphics horsepower.

Processor Power Management is in under System in Control Panel.

Can we have a 3dmark score so we can see if your system is underperforming in other applications?

Reply to smithereen

I'll do a few comparisons, I'm still downloading it. Sorry I'm still not seeing the power management option.


Message edited by ryokinshin on 04-22-2009 at 06:51:38 AM
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Reply to ryokinshin

Sorry, I'm on my XP machine right now. I'll check tomorrow where Power Management is exactly, if nobody else has by then.

You've checked all your clocks, right?

Reply to smithereen

Yea

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Reply to ryokinshin

Hmmm... wait for benchies, I suppose. You could flash the bios while waiting. It's a long shot, but your BIOS might not suppose Phenom IIs properly.

Reply to smithereen

Double Post


Message edited by smithereen on 04-22-2009 at 07:07:07 AM
Reply to smithereen

if you hit "windows" type "power" in search it will come up in the program list as Power Options. check High Performance then click change plan settings then change advanced power settings. you should see processor power management below.

Reply to PsyKhiqZero

3326 (system) + 1024 (video) = 4350 (Total)
Vista x32 only supports 4096, so you are wasting 254 MB of precious ram for not having vista x64 edition.

If you give a gig to vista and the programs that you're running, that leaves Crysis with only 2 gigs system memory, which should work but is undesirable.

If the game plays fine for a while and then slows down, you might have a heat problem. Also, you might have malware or broken software that is eating ram, or even something as simple as a disk with errors in the pagefile.

From Task Manager (Ctrl + alt + del), click "Performance" tab. Click (Admin) Resource Monitor. How many Memory faults / second are you getting? If this number is 300+, you need more ram. On my system with 8 gigs of ram, this number is usually less than 10.

Note: a "Memory Fault" is not an error. I know it's a dumb name.

Reply to quickmana

Blah tired, "A memory fault is not an error" lol. Sorry, the correct terminology I was looking for was "Hard Fault."

You're looking for Hard Faults/Sec. Goodnight.

Reply to quickmana

Check the power plug in the back of the graphics card. If all games are affected it looks to me that your GPU is under powered. Sometimes one of the contact pins can slip back and not make correct contact.

Reply to harna

3Dmark is crashing once it hits the AI test and I'm already getting below 30fps in both graphic tests on trial settings. Getting almost no memory hard faults and I'll try flashing the bios now.


Message edited by ryokinshin on 04-22-2009 at 04:17:20 PM
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Reply to ryokinshin

Hmmmm... so it's definitely not Crysis' fault then. Power management is in Control Panel/Power Options. Do you get a BSOD error code when it crashes? In any case, try running Prime95, and see if it crashes or gives errors.

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Reply to smithereen

No, I just go into task manager and it says not responding.

P7878 3Dmarks
6345 CPU score
8569 GPU score


Message edited by ryokinshin on 04-22-2009 at 07:30:04 PM
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Reply to ryokinshin

That's a reasonable score for those specs, I believe. Hows Prime95?

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Reply to smithereen

I flashed the BIOS to get it to stop crashing, no errors in prime. I think it's fixed at least.

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Reply to ryokinshin

Sweet, let us know if you have more problems.

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Reply to smithereen

Can you try Crysis again? It'd be sweet if the BIOS update fixed it for ya.

Reply to jedimasterben

The reason why I think it's a Crysis problem is because I run Farcry 2 DX10 Ultra with no aa and get over 30fps all the time with 1680x1050. If Warhead would stop crashing maybe I could test it, but I'll wait until I go home and try normal.

The only game I have seen lag like this is in Crysis besides the 3Dmark crashing before the BIOS update.

I don't know if any of you played Neverwinter Nights 2, but this is a poorly optimized game, no?


Message edited by ryokinshin on 04-23-2009 at 05:16:17 AM
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Reply to ryokinshin

I only played it for a short time, so I don't really know. I should go back and play it, though, as I liked what I played of it. I think that's when my hard drive died or something similar and lost all my stuff. :(

Did you run the patch for it? That would definitely help it it's vanilla Crysis.

So just Warhead crashes? Not the original Crysis?

Reply to jedimasterben

Yea, well I'll probably try re-installing that as well, but i mean if I'm doing smooth Farcry 2 max with no aa and 1680x1050, it should be a good sign?

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Reply to ryokinshin

Definitely is. Do the reinstall and let us know if everything works out for you.

Reply to jedimasterben

NwN2? I get 30-ish fps on the gaming rig in my specs... so I'd say so, yeah. That's at 1680X1050, everything high by environment shadows on medium.

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Reply to smithereen

Double post, third time in two days. I hate my wireless modem.


Message edited by smithereen on 04-23-2009 at 04:33:16 PM
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