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January 26, 2009 4:29:28 PM

Hallo,

Didn't know where to put this thread but here we go.

Recenty i've bought a new computer and after installing drivers etc. i installed wow to check out the preformance. I found that the fps it rather low and memoery usage on red level all the time. My FPS is at around 60 and when i move around and look to the sides it often drops below 30. That gives my fps a frame from 60-20 fps which is way lower then the 160-200 fps I'm runing other games withm on ultra-high graphics, as Need for speed undercover, Fallout 3, Red alert 3 etc. When it comes to the memory usage it makes me get errors if i dont reset it in wow rather often. Resetting it means that I i use TItanbars and click on the preformance frame to "throughout the garbage" whatever that means.

Generel build:

motherboard: Asus Rampage II Extreme, X58
processor: Intel Core™ i7 Quad Extreme
Ram: DDR3 1333MHz 6GB KIT x 2
graphic card: GeForce GTX 295

operative system: Vista ultimate

This is a rahter big issue for me as wow is one of the main reasons i bought this computer. I know it should be running around 300-400 fps if not more, but it's not.

Thanks before hand
January 26, 2009 4:32:11 PM

turn off sync. It is syncing to max at your monitors refresh rate.
January 26, 2009 4:36:00 PM

That gets me up around 80-100 but still not even close to the preformance i'm looking for really.. I've seen people having 300+ fps in wow so it is possible.
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January 26, 2009 4:38:58 PM

Otherwise it just keeps me on to 20-60 like always..

and it doesn't really sort the problem with the memory usage either..
January 26, 2009 4:52:12 PM

might be bad memory. Have you run memory tests on your ram? Try only running one kit of ram? 12gigs of used ram is unreasonable for a game. I am guessing you also turned off page file in memory.
January 26, 2009 4:56:39 PM

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I am guessing you also turned off page file in memory.


uhm.. Could you try explaining for me please?

And what can i use to run a ram test?
January 26, 2009 5:00:02 PM

did you try a burn in with prime 95? Also look at picking up cpu-z to make sure everything is showing up that should show up.
January 26, 2009 5:05:51 PM

okay, i'm way behind in this area.. Burn what with prime 95? woot?

appreciate the help a lot.
January 26, 2009 5:11:49 PM

actully my core speeds seems to very low.. and jumpy for that sake.. jumps from 1600 MHz to around 2600 which is way lower then it should..
January 26, 2009 5:22:09 PM

you probably have the power save mode thing turned on in your bios. I do not remember what it is called but will contentiously change your multiplier on your processor based on load. Google Prime95 burn in and read why people do it and what they do. All you do is install the small program and leave it running for a few hours. If your computer is not shutting down or crashing and not overheating, then it is stable.
January 26, 2009 5:27:40 PM

Yeah... MIght be.. i've had troubles overclocking the CPU too. I've followed and used the Motherboard guide for overclocking which is made for I7, but my system crashes when i try.. Wondering what the power saving mode is called..
January 26, 2009 6:30:11 PM

awesome.. Got that sorted now.. My Core Speed is around 3800 MHz and multiplier around 29..

Bus speed on 134 which is standard.
QPI link on 3200..

also got the page filing sorted, but the memory test doesn't work does in Vista ultimate 64bit..
January 26, 2009 6:32:36 PM

google another one, that was just I have used before. The best ones boot off a flash drive and run before the os boots. Multiplier at 29??? I guess this is how it does it, but I would look around at what is stable for an OC this doesnt sound like a great OC but then again I haven't oced an I7.
January 26, 2009 6:37:36 PM

Just went back in wow with the page filing and power thingy sorted.. FPS jumped to 150 so that's great improvement.. thanks alot helping me out.. Still would like to find a memorytester tho, and i'm gonna run the prime 95 later on tonight.
January 26, 2009 6:39:53 PM

Yeah, i've found a pretty decent side that explains how to OC I7 with rampage II x58.. He does get it a multiplier on 33 at his max. but i'm not really looking to go that maxed out.
January 26, 2009 6:41:47 PM

I'll use the flash drive memorytester from the side then if it better.. But dont really think there's any issues with my ram.. still gonna test it as i wanna abuse my 12 gigs of ram to the fullest
January 26, 2009 7:03:59 PM

no problem I remember my first computer build and the issues I had.
January 26, 2009 7:08:43 PM

The fps in wow dropped again.. and they're kinda more unstable now.. Dunno what's going on really.. but i'm gonna try to work it out..
January 26, 2009 7:10:40 PM

I've overlocked my graphic card a bit too..

Engine 625
shader 1364
memory 2152

Dunno if that can be a problem for wow to handel..
January 26, 2009 7:56:12 PM

Try turning off all the overclocking first and see what happens in stability. Turn everything back to factory settings.
January 26, 2009 8:56:55 PM

The memory errors are still popping too.. Think it might be the memory that's the problem.. would you say i should try to turn the page filing totaly off maybe?
January 27, 2009 12:31:52 AM

Thats what I was referring to the first time because you have 12 gigs of ram. 2nd I would turn off all overclocks on your system so you have fewer possible issues.
January 30, 2009 5:42:32 AM

Hey.. We wrote a couple a days ago about my new computer and you gave me some advise.. I tried running prime95 in stressmode and got 2 errors out of it. I kinda don't know what to do about it atm as i got no clue what it can be. I also ran the memory test in biosmode with no errors at all.

thanks before hand.

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a b Ý World of Warcraft
January 30, 2009 8:08:54 AM

Like other people have said turn off ALL overclocking. That just confuses the situation until you figure out what the basic problem is. Then you want to test the memory over night, just leave it running while you sleep. If that turns up no errors then do the same thing with prime95, leave it running over night. At stock speeds your system should get no errors on either of these tests.
That Vista Ultimate is 64 bit correct? If its 32 bit your system is probably only seeing 2 gigs of ram because your gtx 295 is taking up 2 gigs of the max 4 gigs that 32 bit windows reconizes.
January 30, 2009 11:36:46 AM

Uhm, i did turn off all overclocking while running the tests, and ran a memorytest86 overnight which showed up with no errors at all, before i ran the prime95.. so the facts i got till now goes like this:

- Memory errors in wow due to lack of physical memory. (That's what the errors says)
- No errors while running the memory86.
- 2 errors while stress testing in prime95.

My CPU temp is aroung 55 while stresstesting. While gaming it's 40ish, and got nothing overclocked atm at all.

Another question i'd like to ask is about Prime95. When the program asks you about Daytime available memory and Nighttime available memory, and you have to put a limit. What would be a good number? (in MB) and is it the memory of the CPU or Ram it asks for? and finaly how important is the size of this number?

Thanks again. As you probably already found out I'm a bit of a newbe in this area, but getting more and more into it.
January 30, 2009 5:28:54 PM

If you look at the Prime 95 logs it means that something is wrong with your computer. One of your parts has an issue. Its not a big issue but you are going to continue to have issues. Since you have overclocked your chip, you are not eligable to return the item for a new one. Hope it is your motherboard then because those are exchangeable.
a b Ý World of Warcraft
January 30, 2009 7:42:08 PM

You didn't answer about whether your copy of Vista is 64 or 32 bit. There's no way in hell you should be getting out of physical memory errors from WOW if you have 12 gigs installed. My bet is it's a 32 bit Vista thus your effective system ram is actually about 2 gigs.

"Since you have overclocked your chip, you are not eligable to return the item for a new one."

LOL. How would they know?
January 30, 2009 7:45:09 PM

I believe there is something on the chip that is able to tell if it has had more voltage than stock has run through it.
a b Ý World of Warcraft
January 30, 2009 8:22:53 PM

I don't believe that is true but in any case I'd imagine you'd have to raise the voltage over what is listed as within the chips specifications and in the case i7s boosting voltage more than a small amount really isn't that effective in OCing.
January 30, 2009 8:52:46 PM

Yeah, sorry missed that. It's 64 bit. So that cant be the problem. About the OC'ing i only OC'ed it slightly to get a feeling about how far i could go before a merkant change in temp. OC'ed is diffinetly not the thing that screwed it up if so.
January 30, 2009 9:02:08 PM

About wow, it's starting to get ridicules.. I mean.. A game like wow that's so easy to run gives me memory errors.. I actully also reinstalled the game just to make sure that, that wasn't the problem..

I also tested my memory again with memory86 and same result. No errors.

When I'm runniing games like Mirror's edge and NFS undercover i got no problems at all which leaves me only more clueless about my problem..

My FPS problem in wow is also starting to get old, but I've read a few forums about people with the same problem. Apparently the hardwaresupport stoftware that wow is build on is way outdated, and simply cant handle the newest hardware or, all the resources the newest hardware has..
a b Ý World of Warcraft
January 30, 2009 9:02:57 PM

If I'm not mistaken you can turn off half of the gtx 295. Give that a try and see if it does better with only one core. Perhaps it's a driver issue, that card is very new. If other people are having the same problem there isn't much you can do right now but I'm sure Blizzard and Nvidia are working on it.
January 30, 2009 9:25:00 PM

Yeah, actully i read about that too somewhere.. Gotta try that, and see if it works. Dont see how that could fix my memory problem tho, but it could lead to an improvement of the fps.
January 30, 2009 11:03:35 PM

The first think I would do is download CPU-Z and verify that your memory timings and voltages are correct, and make corrections in your BIOS as necessary. If you still get memory errors, pull out all your memory and run with a minimal RAM as possible to see if you still get errors.

If you don't get errors on minimal RAM, start adding sticks till do you get errors again. If you get errors with minimal RAM, run memory tests on one stick of memory at a time until you find the bad stick(s).
February 1, 2009 6:41:02 AM

Did that.. My ram should be fine tbh..
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