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I put together a shopping list on Newegg for a new i7 system with 920, ATI4850, 6GB of 1333 etc, it comes to just under $1,300 total not including shipping.
I can get basically the same system from CyberPower for $1,150 (FREE shipping) and not have to mess around with building, troubleshooting etc. How can they be so cheap, it seems like most reviews are positive, they seem to use all major name brands for components.
I'm really leaning towards just ordering from them because I just don't have the patience to build it not to mention saving hundreds of dollars.
Anyone with experience with Cyberpower?

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Because your are not getting brand name componets. You are getting "like" componets. If you specify the exact brand name then you will see that the price is about the same or $100.00 more then if you where to build yourself.

The only reason I choose to build myself is for the experience.

^ if you look at the components they use, especially power supply, cooler, motherboard etc. they use pretty low quality components, when you upgrade to a higher quality component they charge a premium for the upgrade. You can usually build a higher quality system cheaper then what they build. Not that they can't do a decent job.
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Proximon said:
We can always beat Cyberpower, and do it with higher quality parts.

Post your cyberpower build and you'll see.


Copied from Cyberpower:
CASE: ($20 Mail-in Rebate) Apevia X-SniperG Mid-Tower 420W Case (Black Color)

POWER SUPPLY Upgrade: 680 Watts Power Supplies (Hush Power Supply SLI/CrossFire Ready)

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-920 2.66 GHz 8M L3 Cache LGA1366

Asus P6T Intel X58 Chipset SLI/CrossFireX Mainboard Triple-Channel DDR3/1600 SATA RAID w/ eSATA,GbLAN,USB2.0,IEEE1394a,&7.1Audio

Vigor Monsoon III LT Dual CPU Cooling Fan System

6GB (2GBx3) PC1333 DDR3 PC3 10666 Triple Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)

ATI Radeon HD 4850 PCI-E 16X 512MB Video Card (Major Brand Powered by ATI) [+0] More Brand... Major Brand Powered by ATI

500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD

LG 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER

Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium w/ Service Pack 1 (64-bit Edition)
[+0] 64-bit Edition

CYBERPOWER TOTAL: $1,150.45 (free shipping)
My Newegg basket is basically the same for just under $1,300 not including shipping?

CASE: ($20 Mail-in Rebate) Apevia X-SniperG Mid-Tower 420W Case (Black Color)
Thermaltake V9
A much better designed case with far better cooling.


POWER SUPPLY Upgrade: 680 Watts Power Supplies (Hush Power Supply SLI/CrossFire Ready)
750W PC P&C
Never buy junk PSUs. Only quality such as Corsair, PC P&C, Seasonic, etc. This one is really nice and actually just went down in price AGAIN.

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-920 2.66 GHz 8M L3 Cache LGA1366
Yep

Asus P6T Intel X58 Chipset SLI/CrossFireX Mainboard
Yep

Vigor Monsoon III LT Dual CPU Cooling Fan System
Xigmatek S-1283
i7 adapter kit
Just to mix things up a bit... the Vigor is probably OK.

6GB (2GBx3) PC1333 DDR3 PC3 10666 Triple Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
6GB G.Skill DDR3 1600
Here you know exactly what you are getting, and it's better RAM, probably. Higher frequency, lower voltage, likely.

ATI Radeon HD 4850 PCI-E 16X 512MB Video Card
Sapphire 4850

500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD
WD 640GB
You get a bit more drive here, and it's a decent, fairly fast model.

LG 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER
Samsung

Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium w/ Service Pack 1 (64-bit Edition)
Yep

CYBERPOWER TOTAL: $1,150.45 (free shipping)
My Newegg basket is basically the same for just under $1,300 not including shipping?[/quotemsg]

My Total: Just under $1300.00. Fail :cry: 
Well, you are right, I couldn't match their price today. I did however not compromise on any parts and after rebates you get pretty close to the Cyberpower build.

If you are going to go with Cyberpower, just make sure you get a quality PSU and not some unheard-of brand.

Proximon said:
CASE: ($20 Mail-in Rebate) Apevia X-SniperG Mid-Tower 420W Case (Black Color)
Thermaltake V9
A much better designed case with far better cooling.


POWER SUPPLY Upgrade: 680 Watts Power Supplies (Hush Power Supply SLI/CrossFire Ready)
750W PC P&C
Never buy junk PSUs. Only quality such as Corsair, PC P&C, Seasonic, etc. This one is really nice and actually just went down in price AGAIN.

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-920 2.66 GHz 8M L3 Cache LGA1366
Yep

Asus P6T Intel X58 Chipset SLI/CrossFireX Mainboard
Yep

Vigor Monsoon III LT Dual CPU Cooling Fan System
Xigmatek S-1283
i7 adapter kit
Just to mix things up a bit... the Vigor is probably OK.

6GB (2GBx3) PC1333 DDR3 PC3 10666 Triple Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
6GB G.Skill DDR3 1600
Here you know exactly what you are getting, and it's better RAM, probably. Higher frequency, lower voltage, likely.

ATI Radeon HD 4850 PCI-E 16X 512MB Video Card
Sapphire 4850

500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD
WD 640GB
You get a bit more drive here, and it's a decent, fairly fast model.

LG 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER
Samsung

Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium w/ Service Pack 1 (64-bit Edition)
Yep

CYBERPOWER TOTAL: $1,150.45 (free shipping)
My Newegg basket is basically the same for just under $1,300 not including shipping?

My Total: Just under $1300.00. Fail :cry: 
Well, you are right, I couldn't match their price today. I did however not compromise on any parts and after rebates you get pretty close to the Cyberpower build.




If you are going to go with Cyberpower, just make sure you get a quality PSU and not some unheard-of brand.[/quotemsg]
+1 for the build. +1 for the PSU esp.

@OP: Like he said if getting the Cyberpower, DO swap out the PSU.



My Total: Just under $1300.00. Fail :cry:
Well, you are right, I couldn't match their price today. I did however not compromise on any parts and after rebates you get pretty close to the Cyberpower build.

If you are going to go with Cyberpower, just make sure you get a quality PSU and not some unheard-of brand.[/quotemsg said:


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Thanks for all the input. Their prices are crazy low when you can't even buy the parts cheaper.....it does make me wonder about build quality though. You're right that with rebates it's pretty close and maybe getting the satisfaction of knowing exactly what's in there and a sense of accomplishment on building it may well be worth the extra $100 or whatever.
Cheers.

SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223F - OEM
$26

Thermaltake V9 Black Edition ATX Computer Gaming Chassis with Dual Oversized 230mm Ultra-Silent Cooling Fans VJ400G1N2Z Mid Tower - Retail $80 AMIR

SAPPHIRE 100245L Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
$130 AMIR

CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
$80 AMIR

G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9T-6GBNQ - Retail
$140

ASUS P6T LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
$250

Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 -
$295

Vigor Monsoon III LT Dual 120mm Fan CPU Cooler Socket 1366 Ready - Retail
$60

Shipping $25

Total $1086


The part that we as personal system builder can never beat is the OS pricing.
They get their for around $50. We have to paid full retail price. If you can get the OEM version for around that price then the DIY system will always be better.
One more thing, the majority of the OEM builder will change the bios of the MOBO to remove an OC abilities. That is also where the DIY gain some price per performace value. The OEM builder always charge a premium for OCing approxi a build >$100 for a starter. The higher the OC, the more the expense.



^true to that and they must be getting their prices cheap cuz they buy it in large amounts or so. Anyway, get a better PSU since your budget is around $1300 or so right? Consider getting a 4870X2 too (or d 1GB version)

1892329,10,113488 said:
SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223F - OEM
$26

Thermaltake V9 Black Edition ATX Computer Gaming Chassis with Dual Oversized 230mm Ultra-Silent Cooling Fans VJ400G1N2Z Mid Tower - Retail $80 AMIR

SAPPHIRE 100245L Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
$130 AMIR

CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
$80 AMIR

G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9T-6GBNQ - Retail
$140

ASUS P6T LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
$250

Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 -
$295

Vigor Monsoon III LT Dual 120mm Fan CPU Cooler Socket 1366 Ready - Retail
$60

Shipping $25

Total $1086


jivdis1x, your price doesn´t include HDD nor OS.

For my own 2 cents worth; a few years ago I bought a computer from Cyberpower and it worked fine and was cheap. I did take the time to upgrade the PSU and made sure that the components purchased were good ones. But you do have to pay attention to what you are ordering. Sometimes it makes good sense to order the cheapest, most minimal ram that they offer, for instance, and then buy a good set of ram from Newegg and put that in. Cyberpower also honored its warranty without question when I had to send it back once, not raising a single question about the extra hard drive and ram that I had installed. As for overclocking, the BIOS was a standard one and overclocking was the same as if I bought a mobo from Newegg. Unlike Dell, etc, they did nothing to lock down the BIOS.

I have built my last three computers and will soon be building my forth one, rather than buying from Cyberpower. This is mainly because I usually want hardware they don't offer, besides the fact that when I built it, I know everything about it and also have a better understanding about how to fix it when a problem occurs.

Unless there is a pricing mistake on NewEgg, I doubt an apples-to-apples comparison will ever beat individual components. On an ultra-low end system, this MIGHT not hold up... but on any gaming-level system, it will. Trust us on this one.

I've ordered with cyberpower, at 1200 dollar system, horrible, most parts were junk, i had to relpace the mobo, the psu, and the fans, they put it together horrible, i felt as if my fans were so loose they would snap off any second, i had to upgrade, im never going for cyberpower again.

mickee13 said:
I put together a shopping list on Newegg for a new i7 system with 920, ATI4850, 6GB of 1333 etc, it comes to just under $1,300 total not including shipping.
I can get basically the same system from CyberPower for $1,150 (FREE shipping) and not have to mess around with building, troubleshooting etc. How can they be so cheap, it seems like most reviews are positive, they seem to use all major name brands for components.
I'm really leaning towards just ordering from them because I just don't have the patience to build it not to mention saving hundreds of dollars.
Anyone with experience with Cyberpower?



How many shill accounts has this **** builder opened in this forum?

mickee13 said:

Thanks for all the input. Their prices are crazy low when you can't even buy the parts cheaper.....it does make me wonder about build quality though. You're right that with rebates it's pretty close and maybe getting the satisfaction of knowing exactly what's in there and a sense of accomplishment on building it may well be worth the extra $100 or whatever.
Cheers.

xthekidx said:
Roadrunner how dare you post a link to D**l here. Did you even look at the prices and the components? They use cheap parts and charges high prices. The ram was DDR3-1066. The best video card they offered was an HD 4850. Never ever will a D**l be a better buy than a home built system.



I never recommend Dell over any home build. The OP is obviously lazy, and cheap, so Dell should suit him nicely.

Intel i7 920 $229.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD3R $184.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PC Power & Cooling S75CF 750W $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec 900 $84.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) $134.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LG Black 22X Burner with LightScribe $25.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB $79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64 $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX GX260NADBF GeForce GTX 260 Black Edition Core 216 $249.99
W/Free FarCry 2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 120mm $84.99 (maybe a better choice out there)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Total...$1245.90

I'm building my own system b/c I will enjoy it. CyberPower does seem good for getting a high-end laptop...anyone know of any other sites for laptops (it seems like it would be obnoxious to build your own laptop, has anyone tried?)

Building laptops is something that is not easy to do. In most cases the layout of the laptop is architected exactly for one particallar setup and that's it. So In general unless your an extreme builder i'd not go with a homebuilt laptop. Ontop of that, most likely it'd be cheaper to buy a prebuilt one than actually building one yourself.

Desktop however is a whole different ballgame.
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