Best gaming machine for 1300USD/1500CAD
I had an idea in another post for a gaming rig I wanted to build, but I would like to hear from the gurus what they would recommend for this price. I want to build the best gaming rig I can for this price, and I would like to overclock as much as I can (I am a beginner). I am in Canada so it would be easier if you could recommend stuff off newegg.ca or NCIX. Can you please advise me the best gaming rig I could build for this price (I have a monitor Samsung 2253BW). I need software and gaming keyboard/mouse as well. I am a bit flexible with the price, willing to go up to 1500USD/1800CAD.
Thank you for all the help
Thank you for all the help
It's customary to make your own list first, so we can shoot it down. Makes us feel better
Very well, since I can't do that I'll be nice and make a build for you... I'm not in Canada though so I can't save a wishlist.
CM 690 case
Sapphire 4870 1GB
PC P&C 750W
Vista 64-bit OEM
There you go. Maybe a bit over after shipping, and a bit under after rebates.
.... you can add a second 4870 later if you feel the need.
It's pretty hard to improve on the Grandmaster's build, but let me see if I can suggest a few minor tweaks...
WD Caviar Black 640GB, the AALS version (frequently on sale at NCIX)
Asus P6T Deluxe, V2 if available by the time you go to buy / build
Or, consider also the Gigabyte EX58-UD4P mobo as a reasonably comparable alternative.
Sapphire 4870 1GB, Toxic Edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163135 raven case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150329 2 x gtx 260
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006 good psu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145221 3 gbs of ddr3 is enough
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130220 sli motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202 core i7
I didn't include the mouse keyboard etc
i recommend the vista 64
razer deathadder and a logitech g15 hoped that helped u will going bout 150 over the limit but believe me its totally worth it.
GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 295 576MHZ 1792MB 1.998GHZ GDDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDMI HDCP Video Card ($629.99)
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] cture=ASUS
Case: Antec Nine Hundred
PSU: Corsair TX850W 850W CMPSU-850TX 12V 70A 24PIN AT Power Supply Active PFC 140M Fan Powersupply ($164.99)
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] omoid=1015
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Dual Core Processor LGA775 3.16GHZ Wolfdale 1333FSB 6MB Retail ($264.30)
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] ture=Intel
MOBO: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P ATX LGA775 P45 DDR2 2PCI-E SATA2 RAID HD Sound 2GLAN 1394A CrossFireX Motherboard ($161.57)
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] e=Gigabyte
HD: Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB 7200RPM 32MB Dual Proc 3.5IN SATA Hard Drive OEM 5YR Mfg Warranty
Fan & HS: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro LGA775 2500RPM 45CFM ($32.87)
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] %20Cooling
This was my other build I originally thought of.
If you open to the 'other' chip maker option :P
Read HD4870x2 vs GTX 280 (ditch the CrossfireX vs Sli benches)
Read non TRI SLI Phenom 2 benches
Suggested configuration inclusive of 24" and OS
$1189 w/o LCD
Hoped i helped - cheers
You don't really need a GTX 295 to run a 22" monitor. That video card is much better paired with an i7 rig.
Proximon's original suggestion of the Sapphire 4870 1GB with room to Crossfire is ideal in your case (unless you prefer nVidia). If so, then the PSU can drop down to 750W.
For a pure gaming rig, have a look at the new E7500 processor--it's ideal, and a better value.
For the heatsink, the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 is much better than the Freezer 7 Pro.
I do prefer Nvidia because I also run Linux and ATI's drivers for linux are just awful. Would you recommend on my budget to build an i7 then? Will the 4870 be able to run games like crysis maxed out on my 22 inch monitor at full settings? Also I plan on getting a new monitor within the next few months (24")
+1 to Proximon's suggestion of scaling GTX 260 Core 216 cards on an X58 board.
Abstracting price for the moment, if you want to use nVidia cards for gaming and Linux, with future scaling potential through SLI, then the best route is the new i7 platform.
Unfortunately for you, the price premium of the i7 platform in Canada is higher than in the US, so you will not be able to come in at your 1800 CAD budget, after including accessories and incidentals.
Perhaps if you split your usage and ran Linux from your existing rig, that might put you in a better spot with respect to an ideal gaming rig within your budget.
I am kinda confused how come most people say you dont need a quad core for most current games, that a dual core would be fine. I plan on upgrading my monitor in the near future to a 24" that is why I want to use a GTX 295. I was thinking about the HD4870x2 but it is almost the same price here in canada so I might as well go for the better card, the GTX 295.
Hardly any games utilize multiple cores right now, so the higher linear speed of a Duo beats the advantages of quad cores because they can't overclock as high. However, the difficult question to wrestle with is how many games that you will play over the life of your rig will require 4 cores. That's very difficult to predict and it is known that coding games for multiple cores is quite difficult. Therefore, at your budget, the pragmatic route is probably to go with a Duo and then upgrade to a LGA 775 socket Quad if and when you need it.
The GTX 295 is a great card, but just know that you can't scale it on a P45 mobo. However, a single GTX 295 driving a 24" monitor would "last a long time" on the graphics front, so you're probably OK.