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April 27, 2009 4:12:59 PM

I've got a aging AMD Athlon X2 6000+ on my Gigabyte MA78GM-S2H ( AMD 780G Chipset, socket AM2+, etc. ) and I was wondering if it is worth upgrading to another processor, like the phenom X3 or alike. I hope you guys can help me out, I won't upgrade for a little preformance improvement. My further system specifications are :

2 x 500 GB SEAGATE Hardisks
Asus HD2900XT 512MB GDDR3
DVD player
3 x 1 GB DDR2 @ 800Mhz ( all kingston )

I hope this is enough information for you, and hopefully somebody can help me ^^

Thanks in advance!

Tijmen

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April 27, 2009 4:18:31 PM

what reason?

if it's for gaming your gfx card should be your first upgrade, next update your BIOS and then get a new cpu.

if it's just for general apps then a 720 will give you a nice boost, especially when multitasking.
April 27, 2009 5:11:58 PM

Depends what you use it for, as the Phenom X3 has better architecture (more performance per core per GHz) and more cores and more cache but lower clock speed. In most cases you will see an increase but in some cases it'll make little difference.

I would also get an extra 1GB stick of RAM so that you benefit from faster dual-channel as this won't cost much and give you an additional small boost.
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April 27, 2009 5:56:33 PM

Gaming mostly, but in many topics they also say that a older cpu will bottleneck a newer graphics card. But will it be worth ?
April 27, 2009 5:56:39 PM

Gaming mostly, but in many topics they also say that a older cpu will bottleneck a newer graphics card. But will it be worth ?
April 27, 2009 7:15:30 PM

tijmen007 said:
Gaming mostly, but in many topics they also say that a older cpu will bottleneck a newer graphics card. But will it be worth ?


nah the x2 6000 is clocked at 3.0 and as long as you get a single card that isn't too demanding you will be fine if you are playing at resolutions that are not too high (22 inches or less or even 24 in some cases) then a 4850/4830 will do the job just fine (don't bother going nvidia their cards cost more at that price range and both the 4830 and 4850 will work fine with your set up and won't require too much power, your cpu won't bottleneck these cpu's unless you run them in crossfire but otherwise the x2 6000 can carry you until your next upgrade. And yeah you might want to get an extra gig of ram and upgrade to windows vista 64 bit....you will see a nice boost in performance.
April 27, 2009 7:21:09 PM

Thanks for the advice, 1 problem : They don't cell the Kingston ram with the same rev / timings? Something which causes them not being able to dual channel... So with other words it's worth upgrading from a HD2900XT to HD4850 ?
April 27, 2009 7:27:30 PM

Yea, your CPU is fine for now, but your sorely lacking in the graphics deptartment. 4850 is a good card.
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April 27, 2009 7:52:41 PM

First, you need to add another 1GB module (preferably of the same speed and timings) and run your memory in dual channel. Moving up to an X3 720 or an X4 900 series would be a pretty good improvement. I say go with a 940BE and overclock it. If your concern is gaming, as I would guess from the 2900XT, then I would suggest upgrading to a more recent GPU like a 4870.
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April 27, 2009 8:12:33 PM

A 4870 would be a massive GPU upgrade. No problems with whatever PSU you're using either - a 4870 uses less power than the 2900XT.

Test your system with 2GB of RAM in dual channel mode. You might pick up some performance for free till you can get your hands on a 4th 1GB as an upgrade.

CPU upgrade. I'd wait on replacing your X2 6000+ - it's still a pretty powerful multi-core CPU.

Upgrade the GPU and RAM and do some testing to see if you're happy with the performance improvements.




April 27, 2009 8:42:06 PM

WR2 said:
A 4870 would be a massive GPU upgrade. No problems with whatever PSU you're using either - a 4870 uses less power than the 2900XT.

Test your system with 2GB of RAM in dual channel mode. You might pick up some performance for free till you can get your hands on a 4th 1GB as an upgrade.

CPU upgrade. I'd wait on replacing your X2 6000+ - it's still a pretty powerful multi-core CPU.

Upgrade the GPU and RAM and do some testing to see if you're happy with the performance improvements.

I just tried removing 1 memory module from 4X1 Gb and I saw no noticeable difference in performance in games such as Crysis or Sins of a Solar Empire despite the fact it was not running in dual channel mode.
April 27, 2009 8:57:56 PM

Thank you all guys, I'm going for the GFX upgrade!
May 7, 2009 6:42:52 AM

+1 gfx upgrade..
May 10, 2009 9:03:12 AM

Well I'm stuck again :D 
I've looked up some benchmarks of the HD4850 and it seems that nvidia's new named 9800GTX+ ( GTS 250 1GB version ) outpreforms the HD4850 on most sites.
I play games like Company of Heroes, Supreme Commander and Source based games. Too bad there aren't benchmarks based upon that games :\. So if anyone could help, it would be appreciated !

Thanks in advance ,

Tijmen
May 10, 2009 10:08:10 AM

why not a 4770? put the money you save towards a CF motherboard and then once you've bought that start saving for another 4770.
May 10, 2009 10:11:51 AM

Well I'm not really in for a CF setting due heat problems I get all the time
( damnit! ). I don't know if the HD4770 acts as a microwave as well..
Secondly I prefer not to overclock the card that much since my expierence with overclocking is quite disasterous. When I would go for CF setting I probaly need a new case , new PSU as well. So unless it will be total win, don't mention Crossfire xD .

It's just that I have to choose between the HD4770 / HD4850 1gb version / GTS 250 1 Gb version
May 10, 2009 10:14:03 AM

well the 4770 in CF uses about the same power as your 2900XT.

and the 4770 is just a bit hotter than a 4670 so you could probably get away with passive cooling, which means if you put a nice fan on it then temps will be pretty low.
May 10, 2009 10:17:28 AM

But with other words a single HD4770 will outpreform my HD2900XT on my rig?
( AMD X2 6000+ / 3GB DDR2 pc6400 / 2 x 500 GB SEAGATE Sata2-300 /
Gigabyte MA78GM-S2H / .
May 10, 2009 10:27:18 AM

Club3D HD 4770 512MB GDDR5 € 82,03
Asrock A780GXH/128M €62.62
--------- +
€144.65
Which is around the price of a single HD4870.. It would still outpreform a single HD4870?
May 10, 2009 11:01:27 AM

Okay Thread solved! First going to the HD4770, then to the motherboard ( Just need 1 more week of pocketmoney for that :D  ) And then finally when I sold my old mobo which still has 3 year warranty and it costs still 94 euro cheapest, the Second Card.

Thank you all !

Tijmen
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