Lousy Dell PSU...

I have an Optiplex GX620 SFF tower. I don't think I can replace the PSU, so what's the best graphics card I can use with that setup? Currently, I've got a P4 3.4, 2GB of RAM, and a Radeon x600 SE.

Keeping my first post short and sweet. Sorry 'bout that.
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  1. According to Dell, the mini tower has a 305Watt PSU...Which is the bad news. The good news is that Dell PSUs are actually quite good, particularly on the importaint +12v rail.
    The best you can put in without messing around with the PSU is the HD4670, it only draws 48Watts under load so needs no external connector, taking all its power from the PCI-E slot.
    And it`s no slouch at lower resoloutions for games either!
  2. You have 22amps @ 305w continious power, not so lousy for what you have.

  3. I meant lousy more in the sense of not being able to put a bigger one in. It may be getting up in years, but I still love this little thing.
  4. People have run 8800GT's with that same psu.
  5. If you are limited to low profile that makes it a bit tougher. The nvidia 9500gt is a decent card without a power connector. Newegg has a couple low profile versions.
  6. since your cpu will be holding you back quite a bit, i'd suggest the sparkle 9600gt. anything more will just be a waste
  7. The 9600 GT is tempting. Maybe I could finally play Fallout 3...

    Thanks everyone!
  8. The GX620 "SFF" uses a 275 watt 17 amp psu, the mini tower uses the 305w.
  9. I can never keep those acronyms straight! I have the mini tower then. thanks for the clarification!
  10. If you have the mini tower you can upgrade the psu with almost any standard unit, and you don't need a low profile video card.
  11. +1 for the 4670. you should be able to run it without problems.
  12. Just to clarify, my tower is the one in the middle:

    http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f279/tinkyxiii/optiplex_gx620_large.jpg

    It doesn't seem large enough to accommodate a full-size card though...
  13. That's the desktop model, no psu upgrade and low profile video cards
  14. Ah gotcha. So am I still good for a Radeon HD 4670 or GeForce 9600 GT?
  15. Should be able to run the 4670 with no problem, not so sure about the 9600gt though.
  16. 9600gt requires a 6 pin PCI-Express Power connector so I dont think you can run it :: looking at one right now to make sure::


    also dont think it matters but there is no such thing as a low profile 4870 even thought newegg says they have one lmao
  17. 9600GT will be fine. That PSU has >20A on the 12V, which easily will run up to around a 9800GT/4830.
  18. most 9600gt come with 6pin pcie power adapters. so either a 4670 for lower power or 9600 for better performance...
  19. you should get one of these for your graphic card

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104054

    it can power a gtx 260 and i heard it can even power a gtx 280 which is good
  20. salabarria said:
    you should get one of these for your graphic card

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104054

    it can power a gtx 260 and i heard it can even power a gtx 280 which is good

    He would then have to remove his optical drive, or mount it outside and cut a hole in the case in order to wire it up.
  21. I don't think I want to go to that extreme a level. I'm just looking for a better card than what's in there now. Truth be told, the computer will be passed down to my preschool age niece in a year or so.
  22. salabarria said:
    you should get one of these for your graphic card

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104054

    it can power a gtx 260 and i heard it can even power a gtx 280 which is good

    According to SLI zone the 300w version of that product (FSP x3) can handle a gtx295 :P.

    The 450w could handle two gtx 260's
  23. ^ Total BS, I'm sure. lol
  24. Bluescreendeath said:
    ^ Total BS, I'm sure. lol

    What is it that make's you sure ?
  25. a 300w can power a 295 but a 450w can power sli'd 260 (which basically is a 285 on one card.) that makes no sense and screams bs.
  26. Hello TINKY, sorry, did n`t spot the SFF part of your spec:(
    I can`t see any useful low profile cards for gaming apart from this;

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162016

    It`ll draw a maximum of 60W at full load (5A) while the 4670 draws 48W (4A) so I`d say you r`e good to go with the 275W PSU.
  27. blackwidow_rsa said:
    a 300w can power a 295 but a 450w can power sli'd 260 (which basically is a 285 on one card.) that makes no sense and screams bs.

    How is this BS ?
    The GTX295 uses about 214 watts of power, shouldn't be a problem for a 300 watt dedicated graphics psu.
    The GTX 260 uses 156 watts or less depending on the model, when run in SLI the power consumption does not double but for arguements sake let's say it does.
    2 x 156 = 312 , how would that be a problem for a 450 watt dedicated graphics power unit ?
  28. thats probably the old 65nm 260s and phased out already. the 55nm should have a lower draw
  29. blackwidow_rsa said:
    thats probably the old 65nm 260s and phased out already. the 55nm should have a lower draw

    The 55nm's do have a lower draw, which is why I stated that consumption was dependent upon the model and used the highest power draw as an example.
    Xbit labs put the GTX 260 55nm at 104 watts, two of them would run on a 300 watt graphics power supply.
  30. Bluescreendeath said:
    ^ Total BS, I'm sure. lol


    Why is this BS? Max load with SLI 260's will certainly not pass the 450w break point. Full 3d load on a single 260 is 191.2(according to http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-radeon-power,2122-6.html)

    I know the 450 wattage seems low but you have to remember that this is a dedicated GFX card supply.
  31. One last question and I'll be done (I think): Which card do you recommend that won't be overkill coupled with my P4 3.4 and 2 GB of RAM? I keep thinking that a card like a 9600 will be bottlenecked too much with my other components.

    Again, thanks for all your advice!
  32. Does the PCIEx16 in your motherboard has max power limitation?
    Mine is optiplex 320 and it limits my PCIE to be <25W.
    I don't know if it will work with some graphic card which draws current only from the PCIEx16 only (i.e. HD4670.)
  33. How would I check that?
  34. I got this spec by google:
    http://www.northwoodcomputer.com/Flyers/opti_320techspecs.pdf
    And it shows 25W limitation for my PCIex16 slot, so I would have some concerns using HD 4670.

    What is the graphic card you ended up with?
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