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Which radiator?

I was in the midst of putting together my first water-cooling system and the radiator i had my eye set on is no longer in production (feser 3x 120mm). So now I'm looking for a good substitute. Any suggestions? Hear are the two alternatives i was looking at.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/5326/ex-rad-109/Black_Ice_GTX_Xtreme_360_Radiator_-_Black.html?tl=g30c95s161

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/4283/ex-rad-88/Black_Ice_GT_Stealth_360_Radiator_-_Black.html?tl=g30c95s161

Thanks everyone.
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  1. You were looking for a Feser and now at HWL's ?
    Don't get me wrong, I have a Black Ice Extreme.

    How about a Thermochill
    http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thpa3xra.html

    Or have a read and make a decision
    http://skinneelabs.com/triplesv2.html
  2. delluser1 said:
    You were looking for a Feser and now at HWL's ?
    Don't get me wrong, I have a Black Ice Extreme.

    How about a Thermochill
    http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thpa3xra.html

    Or have a read and make a decision
    http://skinneelabs.com/triplesv2.html



    The thing is Feser is no longer making rads right now so its impossible to find a 3x 120 i mean i need two rads loop one is reservoir, mcp 355, and a EK supreme HF CPU block. While loop 2 has reservoir, mcp 355, and two EK 5870 GPU blocks.
  3. Best answer
    I understand that Feser stopped production of the Exchangers, a couple of months back they were being sold at clearance prices, I grabbed two 480's then at $80 apiece.

    It's just that the Feser and the HWL's work better with different fans, reading the link from above should help to clear that up.

    If you want to wait, it looks like Feser will be back
    http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=promol0ja.jpg
  4. You can always go back to water cooling roots and use a heater core or something from summit racing. I built one using a trasmission cooler and its been in service for about 4 years or so without any changes. This is very similar to what i am using and you can stack it if you want as well.
    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-4120/

    Its more fun to mention that your radiador is from Summit Racing as well anyway.
  5. You can go that route, as I have done the same thing. However, you run into the issue where the tubular surface area is less than that of the rectangular, multi-tube design of a heater core or a typical WC radiator. Yes, these oil/transmission coolers work well and have decent flow, but ultimately will remove less heat due to the decreased surface area. Now, I suppose you could start calculating that the tubed design covers more linear length, but you'd also need to account for the multiple channels in a heater core or WC radiator. I'd still take either of the latter over a trans cooler.

    Heater cores from a 70's Pontiac Bonneville are quite common and are similar to that of a 220 rad...maybe closer in performance to a 320...but cost almost the same. Once you start adding in the fact that you'll need to solder on fittings, paint and a way to mount them...you negate the savings over a WC radiator in many cases. It just depends on your preference and how well you can integrate into your system.
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