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February 6, 2009 10:52:10 PM

This is the build I'm going for so far. It's at $2,220.82 (including shipping) right now and I'm wondering if there's anywhere I can cut some corners to keep the quality but lose a little price.

Edit - Updated build so you don't have to scroll to the bottom.

Case - Antec Twelve Hundred
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD - WD Caviar Black 640GB x3 (two in raid 0 and one storage)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor - Acer 25.5" 2ms
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphic Card - EVGA GeForce GTX 285
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - Corsair TX 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-pin DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard - Asus P6T Deluxe
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU - i7 920
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS - Vista Home Premium 64-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler - CoolerMaster V8
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

120MM Fans for optional slots - Apevia 120MM blue
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVI-HDMI cable
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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February 6, 2009 10:54:27 PM

You cant use a secure link to show the items, we cant see what is actually on the list. Just post the parts.
February 6, 2009 11:24:00 PM

Sorry... didn't realize that. Here goes.

Case - Antec Twelve Hundred
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard - Asus P6T
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics Card - EVGA 01G-P3-1281-AR GeForce GTX 285 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - Corsair 850W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU - i7 920
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Main HDD - VelociRaptor 300GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Storage HDD - Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Drive 1 - SONY Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM IDE 20X DVD±R Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS - vista home premium
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler - CoolerMaster V8
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thinking about this for the monitor?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 6, 2009 11:35:15 PM

Get the western digital black 640gb hdd- its 70.00 shipped and is faster
you can get the velocirapitor if you like, personally i think it is a little over priced, i would go with two of the black 640's in raid 0. Also i would switch the V8 for the Noctua NH-U12P 1366 cooler, it comes with great thermal paste and two terrific fans. A little pricier but overall completely worth it IMO. Finally that memory you have is too much money for not enough performance. Get this G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ - Retail, according to some really knowledge people here on this forum it is the best bang for the buck. Drop that sony drive for a lite on or a hp drive bc they ship with Nero 7 software. Now you can take the money that you just saved and get this beauty - Acer P244Wbii Glossy Black 24" 2ms (GTG) HDMI 16:9 Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail its 250.00 shipped
February 6, 2009 11:46:26 PM

Updated to two http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and switched to the Noctua CPU cooler. Also switched to the G.Skill RAM.

Now... I don't know what else I should add to this list of things to buy to for building. Do I need any thermal paste or anything like that? Or is that just going to come with the Noctua and such? Thanks guys.

Is there a way to link a wish list? Right now everything I have, I think, is free shipping. Except for the monitor that was taken... could always upgrade that though.
February 6, 2009 11:52:34 PM

Let me tell you my friend, you are not going to be disapointed with that build. That thing will be a complete beast. Best of luck and enjoy your build.
February 6, 2009 11:54:33 PM

oh and the thermal paste that comes with the noctua cooler is considered awesome, just as good as the top of the line stuff out there, also the two fans that come with the cooler are awesome. I think if you were trying to buy one of the those fans alone it would run you like $20 bucks a piece.
February 7, 2009 12:08:22 AM

Case - Antec Twelve Hundred
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard - Asus P6T (or should I go with the P6T Deluxe?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics Card - EVGA 01G-P3-1281-AR GeForce GTX 285 1GB 512-bit GDDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor - Acer H213H bmid Black 21.5" 5ms HDMI Full HD 1080P Widescreen
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD - Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s x2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU - i7 920
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS - Vista Home Premium 64-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - Corsair 850W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thermal Compound - Arctic Silver 5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler - Noctua
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

So far this is what I have now -- updated. Anything I'm missing now? Are the stock fans that come with the Antec Twelve Hundred good or should I go ahead and order new fans to replace those?

Ending total is (with shipping) $1,897.31
February 7, 2009 12:12:47 AM

The stock fans are great, as long as you dont mind the blue lights. I personally switched mine out for 7 scythe slipsteam fans. Personally i would spend the extra few bucks for the deluxe, but it isnt necessary. Also i am telling you that the artic silver 5 isnt necessary, as a matter of fact some tests even show the noctua paste to be superior bc it doesnt need curring time and can even handle heat at higher temps better.
February 7, 2009 12:13:36 AM

Alright. Arctic Silver 5 removed. I'll check into the fans. P6T Deluxe added.

New total is $1,953.69. If the P6T isn't a noticeable upgrade, I'll drop it.

What do you think of the monitor? Good enough or should I replace? Honestly... right now I usually just play WoW and I'm going to be playing D3 and other games as they come out. I'll probably go into shooters and more PC games that require decent comps to run. I haven't been doing so because this computer I'm on is severely outdated... if it were ever "in" date. :p 
February 7, 2009 12:17:31 AM

you dont need the fans, the stock ones are fine. It comes with 5 120mm blue led fans. The case can handle up to 7 fans. Personally i cant sleep with any light in the room at all and those blue leds were killing me so i switched mine out for non led fans. But if you are ok with the blue lights then you will be all set. You might want to consider getting two extra fans (one for the side pannel and one for the hhds) but it isnt necessary if you dont want to.
February 7, 2009 12:20:12 AM

Updated the message above about the monitor and whatnot, well, a quick question about it that is. Are all the fans 120MM? So I could just go for 2 more of those to toss in, correct? Guess I could just look at the case specs... heh.
February 7, 2009 12:24:49 AM

the case comes stock with 5 120mm fans and one top 200m fan. However the case is capable to handle up to 7 120mm fans
February 7, 2009 12:32:30 AM

Alright. Updated the RAM and the PSU. I don't plan on going SLI in the future... not made of money. :)  Heh.
February 7, 2009 12:41:31 AM

Also... still have the question as to whether the monitor is up to par or if I should go with something else. It seemed a great buy for under $200.

On top of that... the case. Is the Antec Twelve Hundred a good pick for this build? Or is there another one that would better fit in this build?
February 7, 2009 12:43:14 AM

Antec 1200 is great, but pricey, I like the CM 690 much better for the price. Its very roomy and has excellent cooling.
February 7, 2009 12:52:50 AM

Alright. Keep in mind most games I'll be playing are like D3, WoW, Fallout 3, etc. Would the GeForce GTX 285 be a good pick here? Should I downgrade to the GTX 260 or go with 2x Radeon 4870's?
February 7, 2009 1:02:47 AM

Um well any one of those options would work fine I think, the GTX260 might not keep up with the curve in games to come, I have one and on my 19" monitor my frame rates drop to like 15-20 every once in a while with everything maxed out, which is annoying but my games are still very playable.
February 7, 2009 1:12:00 AM

I guess I'll stick with the GTX 285 or 295. Anyone know if EVGA is a good company to stick with? Or is there a more reputable company?
February 7, 2009 1:13:59 AM

EVGA is as good as they come.
February 7, 2009 1:35:53 AM

I don't think its worth it paying for factory overclocked cards. The stock 285 will run your system just fine without problems. If you really want an overclocked card, EVGA has an overclocking utility that comes with their cards I believe, so I would just get the stock one.
February 7, 2009 1:47:36 AM

Alright... quick recap on what we have so far.

Case - Antec Twelve Hundred
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD - WD Caviar Black 640GB x2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor - Asus 25.5" 2ms
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics Card - EVGA GeForce GTX 285
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - Corsair TX 850 watt (unless the 650 watt will 100% work with this setup and not make it lag behind)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - OCZ Platinum 6GB (3x2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard - Asus P6T Deluxe
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU - i7 920
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS - Vista Home Premium 64-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Extra 120MM Fans - Apevia 120MM blue fan x2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler - Noctua
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVI-HDMI Cable
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Is there anything else I need to add to this list for a complete build? Or anything that looks like it should be switched/could be switched with something comparable yet cheaper?

Current ending price, with shipping, is $2,135.85.

Someone mentioned earlier putting the WD Blacks in Raid 0. Is that a good choice? Or should I just go with one?

Going to change the monitor back to
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
instead of the 25.5" 2ms one.

Also... will the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... run this build with no problem? Or should I stick with the one I have now?
February 7, 2009 2:09:51 AM

Put them in Raid 0 if you plan on getting another 1TB drive for storage and backup. I wouldn't recommend Raid 0 unless you have something to back up the data because failure is 100% higher in Raid 0 configurations, although Raid 0 will give you amazing performance boosts, so if you can afford it, add the 1TB drive and run those other 2 drives in Raid 0.
February 7, 2009 2:11:17 AM

The 650tx should be fine.
February 7, 2009 2:14:49 AM

I think I'll just do the one 640GB WD Black for now. It'll cut back a little bit on price and since you say that the 650W will do fine I'll drop that and see how much the new total is.
February 7, 2009 2:20:09 AM

Or you can get the two drives and run them Raid 0 for now, and get a storage drive a little later, it should be fine for a couple months. Since you are spending that much money on your system, it would be a shame to bottleneck it, and just one of those drives would probably bottleneck it.
February 7, 2009 2:28:13 AM

Would it have to be a 1TB HDD for the one not ran in raid 0? Or will something smaller do well enough? Or could you recommend a good HDD to toss in for the storage drive? I'm at $1,883.19 right now so I could, in theory, go a little more. Hopefully.
February 7, 2009 2:40:36 AM

Well I just said 1TB to be able to back up most of the 1280GB that the two 640gb drives will give you. You could use a 250gb HDD to just back up 250gb of what is most important to you if you wanted.
February 7, 2009 3:23:35 AM

I don't think I'll have 1TB+ of stuff on storage that I'd need to backup. What do you think about just getting 3x 640GB drives with 2 in raid 0 and the other as storage?
February 7, 2009 3:26:30 AM

Bueno.
February 7, 2009 3:29:16 AM

Alright. So... I think I have everything covered.
Case
Mobo
PSU
CPU
CPU Cooler
RAM
Graphics Card
HDD's
OS

Anything else I should order to put this together? It was mentioned earlier that the thermal paste that comes with the CPU cooler will work fine. So is there any other necessity for building?
February 7, 2009 3:31:53 AM

Looks to me like you are ready to go

Don't forget that DVD drive.
February 7, 2009 5:28:28 AM

IMO the 285 is overkill for a 22" monitor. Consider going 24" or save some money with a lesser GPU.
February 7, 2009 10:18:57 AM

This is what I have so far. Anything that I absolutely need or any of the items I can switch out to lower a little cost but not lose much performance?

Case - Antec Twelve Hundred
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD - WD Caviar Black 640GB x3 (two in raid 0 and one storage)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor - Acer 25.5" 2ms
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphic Card - EVGA GeForce GTX 285
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - Corsair TX 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-pin DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard - Asus P6T Deluxe
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU - i7 920
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS - Vista Home Premium 64-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler - Noctua
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

120MM Fans for optional slots - Apevia 120MM blue
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVI-HDMI cable
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
February 7, 2009 7:27:50 PM

You can get the V8 cooler or Monsoon III LT instead of the Noctua which will save you $10-15, both of those coolers are decent and will cool only 1-1.5 degrees less than the noctua, if any difference at all.

You could also get a cheaper case, the 1200 is great but like I said its expensive. The CM 690 is a great roomy case with good cooling and is $70.

And I'm pretty sure your monitor will come with all the cables you need to connect it.
Other than that you are ready to order I think.
February 7, 2009 9:40:38 PM

I was told just recently that it wouldn't be a bad idea to switch from the 650W Corsair TX to a PC Power & Cooling 750W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Would this be sufficient in the rest of the build? I honestly don't know if it would be good enough for the GTX 285 etc. Any advice?

Switched to the CoolerMaster V8 for CPU cooler because the Noctua is out of stock atm. If it's back in by the time I order the rest of the parts I'll probably get that.
February 7, 2009 9:51:44 PM

Either PSU would work fine, the 750w will give you a little more headroom and you might as well go with that since its the same price and if you don't mind a red psu. Both are very good quality PSU's and you can't go wrong with either.
February 7, 2009 10:27:10 PM

kaesin said:
This is what I have so far. Anything that I absolutely need or any of the items I can switch out to lower a little cost but not lose much performance?

Case - Antec Twelve Hundred
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD - WD Caviar Black 640GB x3 (two in raid 0 and one storage)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor - Acer 25.5" 2ms
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphic Card - EVGA GeForce GTX 285
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - Corsair TX 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-pin DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard - Asus P6T Deluxe
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU - i7 920
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS - Vista Home Premium 64-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler - Noctua
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

120MM Fans for optional slots - Apevia 120MM blue
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVI-HDMI cable
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Some thoughts:
The Antec 1200 is a great case, but it is much larger than you need to fit your parts three times over.
Look at the Antec 300. It is 1/3 the cost, and will cool things just as well.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Do yor really need a dvi to hdmi cable? The monitor comes with a dvi cable.

You need a DVD burner of some sort. Samsung makes quiet one for about $25.

Keyboard/mouse?

One #2 phillips head screwdriver. I like the magnetic head type, but be careful with it.

All in all, though, a nice high end value build.
---good luck---
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