OMGGeForce GTS 250 FTW .........Updated Links

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Wait I think I've seen this before

Though the 2 gig does pull a pretty decent win once in a while, I'll admit to that (guru3d). Whats funny is that it loses too.....

You forgot Bit-Techs
"You've probably heard the news by now: Nvidia announced the GeForce GTS 250 this morning at CeBIT and yes, the rumours are true - it's a rebranded GeForce 9800 GTX+.

But that's not the real story.

Normally, you'd expect us to have a review of the card on launch day, but that is sadly something we haven't been allowed to do. Nvidia had remained uncharacteristically quiet - both on and off the record - about the GeForce GTS 250 for one reason or another and we didn't find out about the card until Tuesday last week.

On Thursday, we had a conference call and were essentially told in no uncertain terms that we wouldn't get a sample before launch. But why?

This is where things get a bit trickier because Nvidia palmed us off to the partners - it said that it wasn't sending out reference cards and they'd instead be coming from partners. What we found strange about this was that, typically, in the run up to a graphics card launch we receive anywhere between five and ten calls from add-in board partners, asking us to look at their new products.

We didn't receive a single call this time around.

Instead, we had to resort to making those calls ourselves and, to our surprise, the general consensus from partners was that they were prohibited from sending samples to bit-tech and Custom PC before launch.

One partner, who wished to remain nameless said "[we are] absolutely strictly forbidden to send samples out until the launch date.... it’s rubbish!" Another said it was instructed by Nvidia to send samples to specific websites which, the partner admitted, it had never even heard of.

We spoke to six partners before the launch and not one said it was allowed to sample us before the launch. Several said they were able to help us out "after CeBIT", but by that time it's old news and, frankly, I'm not sure it's worth the effort.

I spoke to Nvidia last night and the company actively denied its involvement in the sampling process and, upon further probing, the company's representatives said that sample allocations came down to "relationships with Nvidia and its partners". When I asked if something in bit-tech's relationship with Nvidia had changed since the GeForce GTX 295 and 285 launches, Bryan Del Rizzo, a Senior PR Manager at Nvidia, said that nothing had changed. "We have a great relationship with bit-tech," he added.

We asked the same question when speaking to partners all week and they said exactly the same thing, which means that someone, somewhere, is getting in the way of the sampling process. The question is: why would the partners lie to us? They have no reason to because our relationship has always been tight and they've been up front when they have sample allocation issues.

Nvidia said it is cutting back on samples (as are the partners) and that allocation is tight. However, since we've managed to get a card same day couriered to us today, you have to wonder if the situation would have been different had the card been something to shout about.

While we wait for our card to arrive, we're going to be playing with our GeForce GTS 250 TipeXXX Edition... It's wicked fast. "
Im not sure, but that may be their entire review. Look for a follow up here http://www.bit-tech.net/blog/2009/ [...] 50-review/

Didn't see bitechs sorry

This seems to chime with what Charlie was saying at the Inquirer earlier............
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquire [...] esentation

Rare that one of his rabidly anti-nVidia rants came to pass!

Shouldn't really be news to anybody though heard about this card coming for awhile now.

i agree .. the 2gig dont really improve anything unless you use a 2500xxx resolution. And its not that much.

The 512 or 1g is WAY enough on those card.

also considering the fact that the 4870 will be 149$ very soon, beating this card on every bench.

who would seriously buy this card when you have the 4870 at the same price?

yes, pure marketing, but maybe youll find GTX+ for under 139.99$ if the GTX250 is 149.99$.

Hey, they added 2GB of memory. Its completely worthless for this level of card but at least its something.

lol yeah I can find something to fill the crack in my rear end


See I wouldn't sway it off, seeing as I sway towards the single GPU king. If I see ATi (AMD) bring out a card that beats Nvidia's next gen for single GPu, you can bet your ass I'm jumping to ATI. Though I wouldn't care if Intel or Thermaltake made the cards, I just want top Single GPU

what does the 260 have to do with this? lol

Well there is 260 GTX and 260 GTX SP 216, but I don't think that was a pointless rebrand because it brought the 260 GTX on par to the 4870 1 gig.

Only 1 out of place really is the 285 GTX, because the 280 GTX doesn't have any competition at single GPU anyways, but 10-15%....yummy I couldn't resist

They need to lower the prices of the "new" gtx250 to under 130$ to remain competitive.
I think that they should of at least bumped up the clocks of the card: core to 760mhz shader 1900mhz and 1150mhz on memory. oh ya dx10.1 support.
Proud only one pcie needed and smaller board(slightly less power hungry).
=P

Well as I've said if they can reduce prices below 130$ it would sell because it performs within 4850 and they sell around 130$.

interesting question

The 1GB 4870s are at the same price point as the GTX 260s right now, at standard clocks.

See 1GB 4870s and GTX 260 Core 216s.

I was an avid Nvidia buyer until i realized they didnt care about customer's i got tired of paying 300$ for cards that were mid range. Thanks to ATI i can get the same midrang cards for around 150$.My 4870 is the first ATI card ive ever bought too and i love it.

I used to be a die hard ATI fan until I had 3 successive graphics card failures forcing me to buy new ones, Friend convinced me (with little persuasion) to go for an nVidia one however this latest show makes me think some more...

Another reason why I'm going x58.

Just FYI, 2GB has a purpose... but only for those using them for GPGPU work or huge data sets, for gaming, pfft, couldn't really do much with it, it's too core limited nowadays.

Oh well, just makes me laugh with the [H] and Bit-Tech experiences, not the time to make enemies IMO.

Still just waiting on a nice laptop with the M-HD4870 + Win7, that's all I'm looking for, rebranded products from either company are just "ho-hum... whatever..." items nowadays.

for most gpgpu work more shaders or the ability to deal with double precision floats is going to be far more beneficial than that extra ram.

nvidia have lost direction some where, they need to get back on track

Nvidia will never make as much money as they did 2-3 years ago. They need to branch out but intel are too powerful to let them in and ATI look like they are trying to finish them off with price cuts they cant compete with.

Nvidia's profit margins have been destroyed in one bad year and bad buys with physx and cuda. Worst of all is they have no friends, even sony have abandoned them for intel with playstation.

I think they actually need to find a reason for people to buy a PS3 before they start selling a PS4. PS3 is trash. Came out 2+ years ago and has still yet to pick up any significant steam, at this point in the game last go around the PS2 was already crowned champ its first year in.

My 360 broke a while back luckily i bought warranty and got a refund which i used for a wii. Only play hardcore on pc. =]

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