Graphics cards suggestions for this new build?

Hey folks, I'm putting together my first build and I was wondering about my graphics card. I also asked this question in my new build thread elsewhere in this forum, but I thought it might be good to post here instead. Here is the part listing:

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/ [...] r=11199506

I've ordered everything on here besides the graphics card and burner at this point and I'm just wondering if the card I am looking at is as good as it could be for the price. I'm not a huge gamer, but I do want to play new games. I also have a bit of price flexibility.

Also, I have not ordered that monitor or keyboard yet, as I technically don't need them... I'm just thinking about upgrading. I have an old Compaq CRT monitor and keyboard that I'm using now.

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Well, if you wait a few days, there's supposed to be an imminent price drop of 48xx-series cards; I've been seeing estimates of $150 for a 4870.

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jtt283 wrote :

Well, if you wait a few days, there's supposed to be an imminent price drop of 48xx-series cards; I've been seeing estimates of $150 for a 4870.

I agree but if you want to play a few games on a crt monitor , you souldn't worry about a high-end video card. crt dont have enough resolution.
on a crt an 8800 would do just fine, but if you upgrade to lcd, then that card is great, just wait a few days for the price drop to $150.

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darn these 1970 posters!!!!!

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I certainly don't want to buy a card to compliment my old monitor, as upgrading is a priority. So you guys think the 4870 will work just fine? I checked online and the article regarding the price drop on xbitlabs site said that Newegg was now able to offer the cards at the new prices. With the rebate, I can buy it for $164 right now, but I'd rather not wait a week to get it 14 bucks cheaper. The 4800 1gb version is supposed to drop to 179. Would it be better to go that route?

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For the monitor in your wishlist, an HD4830 is plenty.

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I can buy it for $164 right now, but I'd rather not wait a week to get it 14 bucks cheaper. The 4800 1gb version is supposed to drop to 179. Would it be better to go that route?

Hi blackwood, in my opinion you should wait for the rebate.

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theAnimal wrote :

For the monitor in your wishlist, an HD4830 is plenty.

Wow, that's much cheaper. Thanks for replying. The only thing is, I'm not sure that that's the monitor I'm going to buy. I kinda threw it in there because it was only 83 bucks or so and I wanted to be able to find it easily. I'm really clueless when it comes to monitors. What should I look for in a good one? What brands are the best? I keep reading that Acer monitors are horrible, but they seem to sell very well on Newegg as well as receive decent reviews. Should I go ask these in the monitor section? lol

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I can buy it for $164 right now, but I'd rather not wait a week to get it 14 bucks cheaper. The 4800 1gb version is supposed to drop to 179. Would it be better to go that route?

Hi blackwood, in my opinion you should wait for the rebate.

If I go with these cards, I'm starting to lean towards waiting a couple days. Thanks for your input!

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What resolution do you use to play your games?

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What resolution do you use to play your games?

I'm guessing its just 1024 x 768. I currently play nothing recent. I've been using a POS surplus comp from my college since my old one went down, and the only things I can really play with it is old school GTA Vice City, Max Payne, etc.. I'd like things to look... better. lol

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blackwood wrote :

The only thing is, I'm not sure that that's the monitor I'm going to buy. I kinda threw it in there because it was only 83 bucks or so and I wanted to be able to find it easily. I'm really clueless when it comes to monitors. What should I look for in a good one? What brands are the best? I keep reading that Acer monitors are horrible, but they seem to sell very well on Newegg as well as receive decent reviews. Should I go ask these in the monitor section? lol

Everything you need to know about LCDs.

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Everything you need to know about LCDs.

Whoa, nice. Thanks for that. I haven't read it all yet, but it looks like exactly what I needed. So what screen size would you recommend for gaming? If I got a 4870, which screen size would take advantage of it the best?

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Are you heavy gamer and would like to enjoy eye candy? Quality 22inch (1680x1050) with 4870 1Gb at least or you can go even higher (24-26 inch) – still max out everything but more pricey. I am not form US, but you are indeed therefore today’s newegg deal SAMSUNG 2233SW High Glossy Black 21.5" 5ms Full 1080P (that’s 1920x1080) really nice price for really nice monitor. I personally always go with Samsung and never had been disappointed.

http://www.newegg.com/Store/Catego [...] e=Monitors

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As far as monitors goes, I recommend the most display real estate that you feel comfortable buying. A good monitor is one of the few "future proof" computer purchases that you can make today. You will be looking at it for a long time. I had an IBM P275 21" crt for a long time. I added a samsung LCD and the side by side comparison cost me money. The LCD was so much better and clearer that I had to dump the P275 and get a second LCD.
If you can, get a 24" 1920X1200 LCD. Games are much better, and internet browsing can display more open pages. Keep the old crt for additional display space, but be forewarned! The one lcd metric that I pay attention to is the viewing angle. On an LCD, the best image is when viewed from directly in front of the monitor. As you move your head to the side, or up and down, the display will begin to look washed out. With a greater viewing angle, this effect is minimized. A basic LCD will have a viewing angle of 160 degrees horizontal, and 160 degrees vertical. A high quality lcd will be 178/178. Samsung makes the panels for many other LCD's. I think they keep the best ones for themselves.

As to the video card question, the 4870 should be fine. The comparable nvidia card is the GTX260.
If you are in doubt about the appropriate video card, I suggest that you look at a nvidia card from EVGA. They offer a "step-up" program where within 90 days, you can trade your card in and get your full original purchase price applied to a more expensive card. I would consider a 9800GTX+ for $140 a/r:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130420

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sefit wrote :

Are you heavy gamer and would like to enjoy eye candy? Quality 22inch (1680x1050) with 4870 1Gb at least or you can go even higher (24-26 inch) – still max out everything but more pricey. I am not form US, but you are indeed therefore today’s newegg deal SAMSUNG 2233SW High Glossy Black 21.5" 5ms Full 1080P (that’s 1920x1080) really nice price for really nice monitor. I personally always go with Samsung and never had been disappointed.

http://www.newegg.com/Store/Catego [...] e=Monitors

Thanks for the link. I'm thinking that monitor is a touch out of my price range. I'd really like to keep it around $150 bucks, give or take 10 or 20. I think I'm leaning more towards this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824009145

Thoughts?

geofelt wrote :

As far as monitors goes, I recommend the most display real estate that you feel comfortable buying. A good monitor is one of the few "future proof" computer purchases that you can make today. You will be looking at it for a long time. I had an IBM P275 21" crt for a long time. I added a samsung LCD and the side by side comparison cost me money. The LCD was so much better and clearer that I had to dump the P275 and get a second LCD.
If you can, get a 24" 1920X1200 LCD. Games are much better, and internet browsing can display more open pages. Keep the old crt for additional display space, but be forewarned! The one lcd metric that I pay attention to is the viewing angle. On an LCD, the best image is when viewed from directly in front of the monitor. As you move your head to the side, or up and down, the display will begin to look washed out. With a greater viewing angle, this effect is minimized. A basic LCD will have a viewing angle of 160 degrees horizontal, and 160 degrees vertical. A high quality lcd will be 178/178. Samsung makes the panels for many other LCD's. I think they keep the best ones for themselves.

As to the video card question, the 4870 should be fine. The comparable nvidia card is the GTX260.
If you are in doubt about the appropriate video card, I suggest that you look at a nvidia card from EVGA. They offer a "step-up" program where within 90 days, you can trade your card in and get your full original purchase price applied to a more expensive card. I would consider a 9800GTX+ for $140 a/r:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130420

Thanks for replying. I appreciate the info, especially the stuff about viewing angles.. I had no considered that. The monitor I mentioned above seems to have a viewing angle of 170 degrees on the horizontal and 160 on the vertical. That seems like it's probably fine for me. What do you think? I'm definitely leaning towards the 4870, and the main question is whether I go with the 512 mb or the 1gb model. If I had to buy today, I'd probably go 512, but with the imminent price drop, the 1gb moves into my price range. I hope it comes soon, most of my system is arriving today. That Nvidia card looks like a great deal with the step up deal, but I really don't want to have to upgrade for quite awhile.

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Okay the price has gone down somewhat on the 4870s. The Sapphire 512 mb version is down to $149 with the rebates, while the Sapphire 1GB version is down to $189 with the rebates. Is the 1gb version worth the extra $40? By the way, I think I've decided on a 22 inch LCD.

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