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GTS 250 = 9800GTX+?

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March 3, 2009 8:54:45 PM

I've just read on the front page that the new Nvidia GTS250 is pretty much a 9800GTX+ repackaged and with 1gb of ram, as all the other specs match up does this mean that you could SLi a 9800GTX+ with a GTS250, if so would it make a better combination than two 9800GTX+s in SLi.

I ask this becuase I've got a 9800GTX+ and considering going into SLi when I rebuild my machine. Anyone got any insight into this or is it too early to tell?

Thanks.

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March 3, 2009 9:22:22 PM

Depand on your rig ? im pretty pleased with my SLI GTX+.

Sopme game dont support SLI ... but in games that support it, OMG its awesome !

like COD4 - CODwaw everything MAXED 1680x1050 with over 60fps avg.
March 3, 2009 9:55:13 PM

What I mean is the GTS250 is pretty much a repackaged 9800GTX+, does that mean you could SLi the two of them together?

However I'm glad to hear that the 9800GTX+ SLis well, good to know I'm headed in the right diretion with it.
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March 3, 2009 10:09:31 PM

It would be nice if it did rain however its just a repackaged G92 core, can you sli a G92 8800GTS with a G92 9800GTX+?
March 3, 2009 10:14:03 PM

hmm good point. and thinking about it, it wouldn't have any benefits anyway, if the GTS200 would shrink it's ram to match the 9800GTX+ so it'd make no difference. Oh well nice thought and it'd make for an interesting experiment at the least.
March 3, 2009 10:15:13 PM

And by GTS200 I mean GTS250, Why can't I edit my own bloody posts?!
March 4, 2009 2:32:58 PM

LOLL i dont know about it.

ASK nvidia if a SLIing a 9800GTX+ and a GTX250 is working. Maybe they will answer you that "its a new card and its not going too" but maybe it can work ... ASK Nvidia anyway, if they dont answer you shortly ... ask GOOGLE ;)  and is google cant ... TRY IT !
March 4, 2009 2:37:31 PM

yes it will work. but you need to use the same size ram on both cards.

March 4, 2009 5:57:17 PM

a 1024 and a 512 GTX+ can be SLIED ...
a b Î Nvidia
March 4, 2009 6:07:03 PM

I read a review this morning that said you could. Google is mans best friend.
March 4, 2009 6:37:07 PM

just use teh 1024 card ans primary ! maybe youll be able to use 1024mb ... but for this im not sure ! i think youll be restricted to 512 cause of the 512 card ...
March 4, 2009 7:06:37 PM

ok from NVIDIA !

Can I mix and match graphics cards with different sizes of memory?
While it is not recommended, NVIDIA does offer this flexibility using Coolbits. When purchasing a second graphics card, you should try to match the memory size so that you are ensured full value and performance from your purchase. For example, if your first card is a GeForce 6600 GT with 128MB of memory, you should purchase a second GeForce 6600 GT with 128MB of memory. However, using Coolbits (value set to 18), you can force both of the cards to use the lower of the two memory sizes and operate together in SLI mode. When dissimilar memory sizes are enabled to work together using Coolbits, the effective memory size for each card becomes the smaller of the two memory sizes. Instructions to enable this feature can be found here.

Can I mix and match graphics cards?
In order to provide optimal symmetric scaling, SLI technology requires the NVIDIA GPUs to match. For example, a GeForce 7800 GTX must be paired with another GeForce 7800 GTX. Likewise, a GeForce 6600 GT must be paired with another GeForce 6600 GT. However, using the latest Release 80 or later graphics drivers, NVIDIA GPUs sold by different manufacturers can be used together in an SLI configuration. For example, a GeForce 7800 GT from vendor ABC can be matched with a GeForce 7800 GT from vendor XYZ.

Can I mix and match graphics cards is one of them is overclocked by the manufacturer?
Yes. A GeForce 7800 GTX that is overclocked (for example BFG GeForce 7800 GTX OC) can be mixed with a standard clocked GeForce 7800 GTX.


http://www.slizone.com/page/slizone_faq.html#c11
March 5, 2009 2:33:47 PM

if it shirks the ram, your better off buying another 9800gtx+ because its cheaper.
March 6, 2009 3:27:43 AM

boulard83 said:
Depand on your rig ? im pretty pleased with my SLI GTX+.

Sopme game dont support SLI ... but in games that support it, OMG its awesome !

like COD4 - CODwaw everything MAXED 1680x1050 with over 60fps avg.

thats it? i have a single gtx 260 and avg. 100fps maxed all extra filets 4x aa etc
March 6, 2009 4:57:41 AM

Why not buy another 9800gtx+ its not like you'll see an increase in performance. The GTS 250 is the same as the 9800gtx+ with a different bios.
March 6, 2009 5:00:46 AM

Call of duty 4 and 5 isn't demanding I have a X1900xt in my lan rig running at 16x12 maxed @ 30 40 frames
March 6, 2009 1:30:37 PM

i doubt about this 100FPS, full filter, with a GTX260. @1024x768 ill trust you ! i get those kind of stats with my SLI GTX+. you cant with a single GTX260 @1650x1080


I play CODwaw MAXED@ 1650x1080, full filter and i get like 80-90 fps avg.
March 6, 2009 6:21:08 PM

boulard83 said:
i doubt about this 100FPS, full filter, with a GTX260. @1024x768 ill trust you ! i get those kind of stats with my SLI GTX+. you cant with a single GTX260 @1650x1080


I play CODwaw MAXED@ 1650x1080, full filter and i get like 80-90 fps avg.

maybe its because i havea better cpu? but yes about 100fps (give or take 5-10) depending on which map etc
March 7, 2009 2:00:54 AM

Quote:
maybe its because i havea better cpu? but yes about 100fps (give or take 5-10) depending on which map etc


better than a core i7 965? guru 3d's rig tops @ 60 with a gtx285, didnt you check?
March 16, 2009 1:02:53 PM

going a little off topic here... so can a GTS 250 SLI with a 9800GTX+ ? Thanks a bundle, btw this is my first post :sol: 
September 16, 2009 4:09:24 AM

Just some fyi on the 9800gtx+ and gts 250.... these cards are extraordinarily similar, so much in fact that i took my BFG 9800gtx+ 512mb and downloaded a generic gts 250 bios and flashed my 9800 with it and viola! I now have a gts 250! Now I know this seems like a rather ballsy move but I was very desperate because I kept getting the nvlddmkm.sys error and I had tried everything to get rid of it (Im waiting for the new Radeon 5870 to come out :love:  ). After the bios flash I have not had one error and my computer is running great!!!!

My System:
Phenom 2 940 @ 3.4ghz
Zerotherm Zen CPU cooler
Asus M4a79 Deluxe w/790fx & Sb 750
4 gigabytes OCZ Reaper HPC ed. 1066
BFG 9800gtx+ 512 (now gts 250 512 :D  )
Corsair TXS 750 watt PSU
Logitech Z-2300 THX certified speakers
Samsung 2233sw 1080p monitor
NZXT Tempest Case

September 16, 2009 1:29:02 PM

I did the same as what you did with my Asus 9800GTX+, after I flashed it, it said it was successful. But it won't boot up with a screen, I know it booted into window but nothing shows up on the screen.

Luckily my card was still under warranty, I Called Asus told them my card stop working and they sent me a new one.

Moral of the story: Not all cards are able to be flash to GTS 250. :fou: 
September 16, 2009 2:14:07 PM

Hmmmm, well I'm sorry to hear that it didn't work for you :(  , my main reason for posting this was to help anyone that was in the same situation I was and is attempting this only as a last resort. Bios updates are only reccomended if you are having ussues with your card to the point that games are unplayable (which was my situation with nvlddmkm.sys :pfff:  ). This did work for me on my bfg card (not one bsod since :sol:  ), one thing I would like to ask though is what bios did you flash to and was it generic?
September 16, 2009 7:10:32 PM

rather ballsy move but I was very desperate because I kept getting the nvlddmkm.sys error said:
rather ballsy move but I was very desperate because I kept getting the nvlddmkm.sys error


i started getting the same error message occasionally after i switch to a 1080p LCD panel with the use of an HDMI cable. but i managed to live with it if i get that episode. a simple reboot is all it takes.
September 16, 2009 11:46:22 PM

I dont think you can sli a 250 with a 9800 unless they both have a bios ID of 250 or 9800.
September 17, 2009 5:59:11 AM

dougie_boy said:
yes it will work. but you need to use the same size ram on both cards.


You can SLI a 250 with a GTX+ but they have to be the same size... I have both cards and I could not SLI due to one card being much larger than the other...The Sli bridge is too far apart.....

If one card is 1GB and the other is 512 the both cards will run at 512.....

If both cards look like this then you are fine :



If you use this GTX+ with the one above it wont work :

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