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There are two cards from Sapphire I've got my eye on right now.

SAPPHIRE 100248L Radeon HD 3850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3

or

SAPPHIRE 100249L Radeon HD 3850 1GB 256-bit GDDR2


Purpose:

Gaming - COD(WAW) and Crysis
HD Video / Blu-Ray Playback

Purely based on these specs of these cards, which card will perform better in Gaming?

Resolution wise I think 1GB will be better. But what is the major deal with GDDR3 as opposed to the GDDR2?

I have a feeling I should go with the 1GB verson, but I am asking for some purely technical advice and how it will fare in the real world.

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GDDR3, no contest

Reply to turboflame
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Can you explain? and I mean in technical and real world applications.

Reply to ocd
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GDDR3 is significantly faster than GDDR2. you can see it just in the clock speeds. GDDR2 cards are so obsolete that there aren't even any on tom's most recent gpu chart. simply put, the GDDR3 would be much faster even though it only has half the total memory. and either way, you won't get an acceptable framerate in crysis on either of the cards.


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Nice. As for Crysis, I have given up on the idea of being able to play it. The cost would be too high to bother just yet. Maybe in the next coupe of years as better cards come out and become more affordable. I have lost my interest in wanting to play this game.

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SAPPHIRE 100265HDMI Radeon HD 4830 good cooler + overclocker

$99.99 ($84.99 after $15.00 Mail-InRebate pdf )
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102822

Reply to marco324
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+1 for the 4830...

Reply to gkay09
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+2 for the 4830 :-)

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Get the 4830 instead.

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Would the choice of procesor matter significantly if I were to go with the Sapphire HD 4830?

The 4830 is selling for about $115 CAD here on newegg.ca. Link: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6814102803

Not bad at all for affordable Multimedia and gaming on my screen which is not a HD ready monitor.

ATI Radeon cards seem to be on top on a technical and theoretical level, but how about nVidia? They seem to have slower clocks, less memory, etc, but benchmark performances are pretty close in real world tests. How about nVidia?

Again, would it make a huge difference which processor? More Cores? or Faster Speed? Because if speed is all I need, I can get a 2.8 Ghz single core processor or something with Hyper Threading. The Intel E8400 is a bit out there for me price wise.

Thanks.


Message edited by ocd on 03-06-2009 at 09:14:00 PM
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SAPPHIRE 100248L Radeon HD 3850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3

512MB version is good
1GB is only good for high resolutions above 1680 x 1050

Reply to marco324

ocd wrote :

Nice. As for Crysis, I have given up on the idea of being able to play it. The cost would be too high to bother just yet. Maybe in the next coupe of years as better cards come out and become more affordable. I have lost my interest in wanting to play this game.




if your going to get one of the 3850s you should definately get the gddr3 version. and dont think that you cant run crysis. i have a 3850 almost exactly like that one spec wise. its an msi and looks a bit cooler but that doesnt really matter. if its stock u can run crysis on high at a 1440X900 resolution, 2X AA, and get 20fps average in the open. if ur in more enclosed space its more like 26fps. when i over clocked mine with riva tuner i gained about 7 - 12 fps on average. so a constant 25 - 3x fps for crysis looks really good. most games have to have like 40 fps to play as good as crysis can with half that. If you dont like the idea of over clocking then run it at 1280X800 res, 2X AA, everything on medium. u'll get like 50+ fps and btw crysis on medium looks better than almost any other game on their highest settings. just something to keep in mind ;)

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Thanks very much for sharing that info! What processor speed are we looking at to make the GPU/CPU combo most effective and price concious?

Reply to ocd

well. i have a phenom 9600 black edition 2.3GHz stock. i have it overclocked at 2.7 GHZ stable. it is a quad core but my friend is using a dual core for his. either way i'd say you'll need at least a 2.5 GHz dual core so you can take advantage of the multicore function crysis uses. for gaming a dual core is a minimum requirement. you can get an amd 2.7 GHz for like 65 bucks free ship. :D

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103300

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I've got my eye on that SAPPHIRE 100248L Radeon HD 3850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 as well and I was wondering what should i get for better performance:

 

2x (CrossFire) SAPPHIRE 100248L Radeon HD 3850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16

 

or

 

1x SAPPHIRE 100265HDMI Radeon HD 4830 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16.

 


2x HD3850 go for $30 more than 1x HD 4830.

 

Any ideas ?

 


Edit: I haven't decided yet on the motherboard, so I'd appreciate if you could give me the answer for 2 options, dual x16 or dual x8.

 

I'm still trying to chose from Phenom II X4 955 BE ($245) and 940 BE ($190) in order to know what kind of motherboard I'll be looking for, AM3 or AM2+

 

Thx !


Message edited by STR8 on 05-25-2009 at 11:14:18 PM
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512mb HIS IceQ Radeon HD 4670 Turbo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161252

Slightly faster than the 3850 with no need for an external power connector.

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edeawillrule wrote :

512mb HIS IceQ Radeon HD 4670 Turbo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161252

 

Slightly faster than the 3850 with no need for an external power connector.

 


Better GPU, but it's a 128-bit compared to the 256-bit 3850. Worth the extra $15 x2?


Message edited by STR8 on 05-25-2009 at 11:24:33 PM
Reply to STR8

It compensates. The memory is overclocked by 200mhz on top of the architectural enhancements and the 30mhz core overclock. Check the charts on here if you wish

Reply to edeawillrule

if you can afford two 3850s then you might as well just get a 4870. its only like 150 to 190 depending on if you want 512 or 1 gig. it will destroy the 3850s and anything else ati in that price range.

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