Should I buy AMD phemon II or Intel Core i7 920?

I'm unsure about both even I looked at beachmarks I never used AMD and I have a 1 computer and 1 laptop both are Intel. I support Intel but I also support Ati Radeon too. It will be used mainly for gaming, browsering, video editing and all other basic apps you would do as family.

Avantages of using AMD

Cheaper
Most bang for pound
Has support for ati graphic cards

Disavantages of using AMD

Not popular as Intel
only has a 4 cores with 4 hypertheading compared to core i7 with 4 cores and 8 hyperheading.
Less app support.

Help me to decide.

If you have the cash to build an i7 system with more than the cheapest possible components, go for it.

If not, go for the Phenom II, the only thing you'll see a difference in is video editing.

The i7 will give you better performance in video editing, but the Phenom II will allow you to buy a better graphics solution making it better in gaming. What is your budget?

For 500-800 stick with the AMD system and get a nice GPU.

the point to note here is that video editing is NOT your professional need . even if it takes a while more on amd , you will get no incentive for saving a few minutes .

go for am3/790fx , 4 gb ddr3 , phenom 955 (for the unlocked multi) , dual 4770 in crossfire , with adequate cooling for both cpu and gpu overclocking .

the price/performance is attractive with a 4770 xfire setup . also phenom 2 will not hamper your frame rates .

you dont need to spend them all , even if your budget is 1000 . go for the best price /performance , and upgrade to rosier am3 and ati gfx in the future .

I'd say go for the AMD based system.

Avantages of using AMD

Cheaper
Most bang for pound
Has support for ati graphic cards / No , intel supports them as well, but probaly is a tad slower with them /

Disavantages of using AMD

Not popular as Intel / popularity won't affect preformance /
only has a 4 cores with 4 hypertheading compared to core i7 with 4 cores and 8 hyperheading.
Less app support. / What do you mean with less apllications ? You want to use professional designign software or ? They're both Quadcores, every game will run on both of them.. /

Here is a nice chart showing the economic advantages of AMD's CPU's vs Intel's
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/16796/14
It's actually part of a review of the Phenom II X4 955
On this chart they use a inexpensive AM2+ motherboard rather than an AM3 one but also
they use inexpensive motherboards for the Intel CPU's as well.
It would be preferable to use a AM3 motherboard for the Phenom II X4 955.

Sorry for double post.

I never used AMD nor brought one.

Wow... i7 does NOT own a Phenom 2. Look closer, even the 3-4 apps it pulls away in it is not by a significant amount. Your gaming will suffer greatly, stick with the Phenom 2 if you even care about gaming performance. Also overclocking will put a huge dent in the difference. My mother's Q6600 @ 3.8 Ghz (stock is slightly slower than Phenom 2 920) encodes HD video only 4 minutes slower than my i7 920 @ 4.2 Ghz. At stock the difference is around 20-30 minutes.

We have gone over this, buying an i7 system at your budget will make absolutely no sense and waste your money.

descendency is absolutely correct, I did not think you meant that but by rereading your posts you might have.

Also as i had pointed out, when overclocked the i7 does not pull ahead too much, but with photo-editing on a professional scale the i7 will have a more pronounced lead. Remember if you do not PROFESSIONALLY edit photos or encode HD videos then the i7 is a luxury that you will suffer for in gaming.

I am not biased in this case because I own an i7 and have built a few i7 systems. I do not regret my purchase because I understood the circumstances and my budget is far greater than yours because computer building is my main hobby. Hell your budget would cover my watercooling system and that is about it, I know how ridiculous that is but I don't care because my budget is nearly unlimited since I can just save up for the parts I want anyway. Also having virtually no bills and making decent amounts of money working after school helps.

STICK WITH THE PHENOM!

By looking at his name, i'm pretty sure this entire thing was just a setup to piss us off.
Either that, or he has no clue about anything computer related.

Too many Intel fanboys who think the i7 is all that. High res gaming is where its at and thats what I stick with, ergo AMDs flagship and cheaper platform.

Phen 2 955 at 4.2 ghz stable $245
MSI quad xfire 790fx mb $179
4 Gb of DDR3 1333 gaming memory $59
1Gb ATI 4870 overclocked $189


you do the math,

Gaming at 1920 x 1200 all max settings ... priceless

kami3k chill you look like a major hypocrite now.

I'm telling you, if all you want to do is gaming then i7 is useless to you. I did not notice much of a difference at all upgrading from a dualcore with 2 4870 X2s which is one of the setups that should see the highest benefit from i7, but it really doesn't.

What soldier probably meant was that at high resolutions the difference between a Phenom 2 955 and an i7 920 is extremely slim, which is absolutely correct.

Soldier nice rig bro, a bit much on the lights but hey different tastes are not necessarily bad. Is that Phenom 2 955 watercooled? Can you post up a CPUZ shot please, not that I don't just you its that I have not seen a 955 hit 4.2 Ghz. Also what are the overclocks on that 4870? I find 4870s to be hit or miss with overclocking and have not been able to go over 800 core/1000 mem.

There are differences... try 3DNow! and SSE4.1?

AMD really did hit 7.1 GHZ.

AMD has best bang for pound prices with very little difference between core i7's power. I will also be buying HD 4890 or 49xx series after summer. Which meant I should be buying AMD, it has better support with ATI graphics unlike core i7.

Well, I'm still unsure because Intel never failed me and I have a computer and a laptop, both are Intel. Computer is 6 year old and is kicking alive, but slow and sluggish because of virus

Remember I have a budget of 600-800. Cheaper would be better. And no, I don't do professional editing. I just edit videos like one from www.youtube.com/user/lee7noo8/. That account is mine.

Get a Phenom II 720 if you're on a budget.

8/10

Crossfire scaling used to be better with AMD motherboards until the X48 chipset came out and now they are even. Both AMD and Intel motherboards will perform the same with a crossfire setup.

As for the 4890, go for it that is a great card for the money. The 49xx series was just a rumor a while back and is not coming out, the only card that may come out before the 5xxx series is the 4890 X2 which will be out of your price range.

stranger please try to help him and not flame him, if I flamed everyone who bought a rosewill PSU that exploded then I would be very busy and would likely have to quit my job.

they wont be coming out to Q3 or Q4 likely so it might be a bit of a wait.

If you take a good look at the rig he posted... he actually used water cooling to hit 4.2Ghz.

On a Core i7 920 C0, I can hit 4.3~4.5Ghz w/ water cooling.

Yeah yoma is correct an AM3 system doesn't really make sense considering how much more i7 is, but an AM2+ with a Phenom 940 will perform the same and cost much less. The AM3 system would be better if the only decent AM3 boards did not cost $150-$200.

Edit: 4 Ghz on air is never guaranteed with an i7 920, like Phenoms they tend to stop around 3.8 Ghz.

There are 15 AM3 mobos listed at The Egg - 8 are less than $150. The Gigabyte 770T-UD3P AM3 is $85 - the Gigabyte 790XT-UD4P AM3 w/ 2x PCIex16 (x8x8) is $125 AR.

The Asus M4A78T-E AM3 combo with a PhII 720BE is $259.00.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] rder=PRICE

Even through that, I'm still consfused, will it handle 32m CPU? Please make it clear.

I wasn't calling him a the troll. Take a peek to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll Then you will understand why.

So, what speed will Core i7 achieve with stock cooler? Above 3.0GHZ I hope. If it can and 32m chip works too with mobo then I'm buying it.

True, but those motherboards kind of suck. I suppose it still isn't a bad deal.

I wonder when AMD is going to up the cache on their cpu's?

I reckon once they do that they will be beating the i7's.