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What is your favourite ATI Video Card Brand?

Total: 980 votes (679 blank votes)

  • XFX
  • 23 %
  • Sapphire
  • 33 %
  • HIS
  • 13 %
  • ASUS
  • 11 %
  • Gigabyte
  • 5 %
  • MSI
  • 6 %
  • Powercolor
  • 6 %
  • Palit
  • 1 %
  • Diamond
  • 4 %
  • Gainward/Gecube/Force3D/Connect3D/Club3d/Apollo/others
  • 3 %
March 6, 2009 4:22:04 PM

With curiousity, I just wanna know what is people's favourite ATI Video Card Brand and why. What is your experience with these brand(s) and their warranty?

Please see the poll and vote. The maximum possible answers/votes for this poll is 2. Thankyou. :bounce: 

PS:

Sorry, I forgot Visiontek on the Poll, so if you want to choose Visiontek then please choose "others". I cannot even re-edit the poll/edit the message except for quick edit.

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March 10, 2009 7:57:10 PM

HIS ftw. I love their Iceq!
March 10, 2009 8:42:17 PM

Just to share with you people, you know, I've came across some people who just don't buy a particular brand because of their personal belief about that brand or because of what they heard from other people. I do admit that one time, I was like them but after researching, I began to have a clearer image. Sometimes what others say is right and sometimes they are wrong and sometimes it is not always like what they said. However, I would still understand if somebody does not buy that particular brand because they had bad experience with that brand's customer service or because the quality was bad or their video card did not work properly or that they are not satisfied with the warranty but there are also those who just don't wanted to try the brand and did not do any research.

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Anyway, these are some examples that I heard from some witnesses/customers about these brands:

I heard somebody saying MSI is not a good brand for video card because it is a motherboard-maker so MSI is good in making motherboard more than making a video card. However, there were 2 reviews/comparisons of MSI HD 4850 with Artic Cooler Hybrid Frozr which had changed my mind about MSI. These 2 comparisons are "MSI R4850 VS ASUS EAH4850 Matrix" and "MSI R4850 VS Sapphire HD 4850" which had totally change the way I used to think about MSI because it proved that MSI HD 4850 is better than Sapphire and Asus's matrix, maybe because MSI uses the Artic Cooler Hybrid Frozr. The reviews proved MSI HD 4850 is 20 C cooler than Sapphire HD 4850 and 40 C cooler than ASUS's EAH4850 Matrix and MSI can also overclock more than ASUS while maintaining good price. It shows that sometimes, even brands like MSI can win against more popular brands like Sapphire and ASUS. Anyway, I don't know how legitimate these reviews/comparisons are. :ouch: 

I also heard some people said that Powercolor is a "Brand of Poor Man's Choice" so they are not going to buy this brand because one time, Powercolor tend to cut off some components of HD 3000 series to make it cheaper and using cheaper component like electrolytic capacitors instead of using the Japan-made all solid capacitors. Despite what some people said, today, i've also seen some Powercolor models with good components and sometimes they are not really cheap. It might be true one time that Powercolor tends to be cheaper and its quality was not good and this depends on which model you buy. :ouch: 

Despite Sapphire being one of the top brand of ATI, some people said that its customer service was bad and they are not going back to buy any Sapphire's video card. Kinda strange, because despite that, many people are still buying Sapphire than many other brands. :ouch: 

I also heard that many said that Gecube as being the lowest brand/rank of ATI and having a bad reputation of lousy customer service but I also saw many people who bought Gecube and did not have any issue. One time, I was interested with Gecube HD 3870 X2 with Twin X-Turbo Fans and I like it because it is quite a good idea to use twin fans than only 1 fan but some of its bad reviews of Gecube X1600 Pro about its customer service had scared me a bit. :ouch: 

And, I also heard about Diamond multimedia brand as being one of the cheapest and worse brand of ATI because some people cannot even install the video card and they have constant crashings so they put Diamond on their "Do not buy" or "Avoid" List. Of course, there are also many people out there with Diamond video cards and they have no problem. :ouch: 

And Palit as being also one of the brand that sells cheapest video card but its bundle sucks. However, the bundles might not be very important when it comes to like free softwares with useless things like 3dmark ratings. So far as I know, Palit is very popular in Asia but not in North American continent. :ouch: 

Some people also avoid a brand with quite good reputation like HIS with its famous cooler like IceQ 4+ simply because HIS offers only 1 year warranty. However, I hope that it would not always be like that and maybe it depends on which model we buy since not all models have the same warranty, if I'm correct. :ouch: 

Interestingly, one time I also heard somebody said that Gigabyte used to make good video cards but now Gigabyte is not as popular as ASUS when it comes to video card and that Gigabyte no longer makes good video card but after researching for a while, I came across a review/comparison between ASUS EAH4870 and Gigabyte HD 4870 and I found out that Gigabyte is a better buy because its fan is much more silent than Asus's so Gigabyte had won only 1 point over ASUS. However, they both are good except this time Gigabyte had won. :ouch: 
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Anyway, I don't know much about these brands, despite what I heard from these people/customers, so that is why I made up this thread and asked. Of course I did not say that these brands are bad because I don't know much about them and I don't have most of these brands too. Sometimes, I don't also want to totally reject what these people said about these brands or about what they had gone through because I don't want to think that they just lie but I also knew that sometimes, totally rejecting a particular brand could also be a wrong thing to do. Maybe it all comes to personal taste/preference or one's experience or one's luck. So far, I only had the old Sapphire Radeon 9600SE and NVIDIA Geforce FX 5200 on 2 pre-built PCs and they were great during their time but sometimes, I do experience Blue Screen of Death or crash. :) 

At the end, one of the most important thing regardless to brand or warranty is the reference design of PCB which would make it safe as well as having non-reference cooler (which is normally better than reference cooler) and its price...
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March 12, 2009 7:12:54 PM

Well?? Anyone else???

:sleep: 
March 12, 2009 8:07:46 PM

Could you make a summary?
March 12, 2009 9:04:31 PM

djcoolmasterx said:
Could you make a summary?


I did it on purpose because I was trying to make it sounded more controversial or making long controversial post without specific short summary or short main idea and making my thread become more interesting but it is based more on what I heard from others and what I've seen than my opinion so this is why it is quite long. It is difficult to make a short summary especially when you share many things. Like I said, this is just to share. However, at the end, you will decide... :) 

PS: My point is that you cannot always make a fixed assumption about certain particular brand of video card based on what others say or based on their experience because it does not mean that it would always be like that so doing research, reading reviews for more knowledge before judging the brand could change the way you used to think about that particular brand which could be a good thing. It is very understandable.
March 12, 2009 10:55:31 PM

Thanks, its just that your message can be lost in the volume of text.

Maybe you should write up a proper brand guide and get one of the mods to sticky it as you clearly have alot to say and its always good the see people who are willing to put the effort into a post. :) 
March 13, 2009 3:32:06 PM

Well, I don't know how to make this thread as a sticky thread. It is sad that someday this thread might disappear and not everyone is going to see it. :cry: 

Anyway, I don't even guarantee that all the information I posted is true but it is based on what I've heard from others and what I saw on some reviews/comparisons of video card brands so I don't know if this could be a legitimate "sticky brand guide thread". There are also some other brands that I did not even post. :??: 

Unfortunately, like many other threads, this thread will be dead or expire soon. It is its destiny... :cry: 
March 13, 2009 9:04:32 PM

As with all things, I suppose its up to people to make the most of them.
March 13, 2009 10:07:05 PM

I have had a bad time with powercolor cards, I would stay away from them
March 13, 2009 11:12:24 PM

I agree with bunny, the powercolor cards are just awful. I have to go with Sapphire on this one, although I would like to see XFX make some more ATI cards. I have had a good experience with XFX cards in the past, but those were nvidia cards. Sapphire gives me good quality, and less hassle than the other companies.
March 15, 2009 7:43:50 PM

mrbunny said:
I have had a bad time with powercolor cards, I would stay away from them


What kind of problem did you had with Powercolor brand card and which model?
March 15, 2009 7:46:34 PM

boudy said:
Sapphire gives me good quality, and less hassle than the other companies.


Sapphire is less hassle than other companies?? What kind of hassle? Driver problem with other companies? Quality? Problem with Cooler of other companies? Or warranty??

So... you also meant that Sapphire is also less hassle than brands like HIS, ASUS, MSI, Palit and Visiontek???

Anyway, why is Powercolor awful for you? Any description for that?
March 16, 2009 9:35:04 PM

mrbunny said:
I have had a bad time with powercolor cards, I would stay away from them


Too much info here....lol

Care to explain what issues you had with them?
March 18, 2009 11:53:45 PM

Anyone else would like to share??
March 26, 2009 5:02:34 PM

So far no Problem with Shappire or Powercolor. So drivers problems on a old X800 GTO but thats it. A rollback or updated version solved it. I got cards working from the 9600 pro and 9600XT working from long ago.

March 27, 2009 2:46:46 AM

Techno-boy said:
Sapphire is less hassle than other companies?? What kind of hassle? Driver problem with other companies? Quality? Problem with Cooler of other companies? Or warranty??

So... you also meant that Sapphire is also less hassle than brands like HIS, ASUS, MSI, Palit and Visiontek???

Anyway, why is Powercolor awful for you? Any description for that?


I have had 2 bad Powercolor cards (1 is a 4850, the other is a 3850), both ran extremely hot and I had problems trying to RMA the 3850 (because after I got it to run, the PCB was warping). I bought the cards because I thought they were a good deal, but they turned out to be more trouble than they were worth. I ended up selling the 4850 on ebay, because I didnt want to have to deal with the problems (the heat and the customer support). Maybe it was just me or I got a bad bunch, but I dont think I will be going back to Powercolor anytime soon (if ever).

I like Sapphire cards (I bought a 4850 for my main machine and a 4670 for my HTPC) because they are good quality, run cool, and aren't as costly as some other brands. I haven't contacted customer support yet though, because I have never needed to :D .

The other card vendors I have not tried, but I will not bad mouth them until I do. Next I think I will try the HIS or MSI.
March 27, 2009 4:39:35 AM

I must agree with Sapphire. I've had 2 of theirs; an X1600 Pro & my present HD4850. Great support and no complaints so far.

Oh and their forums are populated with very knowledgeable folks who are friendly and willing to discuss anything hardware related. For my part, I enjoy interaction with Brits form time to time. I get fresh insights from their points of view.
a b U Graphics card
March 28, 2009 3:48:02 AM

No VisionTek option? BOOO!

I've had cards from at least 7 different manufacturers, and not one has ever truly let me down. So, I can't actually pick a favorite. Though, I suppose I would tend to lean more towards XFX, MSI, Powercolor and VisionTek.
March 28, 2009 5:18:52 AM

His is tops with their iceq4 i have no prolems with it
March 28, 2009 7:20:34 AM

Umm...No Vision-Tek?
March 30, 2009 5:51:12 AM

I think Visiontek would fall under "Gainward/Gecube/Force3D/Connect3D/Club3d/Apollo/others" :D 
April 1, 2009 3:51:59 PM

boudy said:
I think Visiontek would fall under "Gainward/Gecube/Force3D/Connect3D/Club3d/Apollo/others" :D 


Thanks for posting that. That's exactly what I was going to say. :D 

It's a shame that we can only make 10 answer choices for the poll. I wish that Tomshardware.com could allow us to make more than 10 answers to the poll's question.

Besides, I cannot even re-edit the poll. :ouch: 
a b U Graphics card
April 2, 2009 8:14:04 AM

Id go with HIS and MSI, first if u can afford, 2nd if u look for also a good deal.
April 2, 2009 1:01:01 PM

I heard that Palit is closing in the US. Is that true?

Looks like that famous frog is jumping away from America. Maybe because America is a boring place to do business. LOL! :D 
April 7, 2009 11:54:16 PM

It may be a little late :)  but the most recent card I bought was a powercolor 3850 agp and it will stop responding no matter how low the settings are. World in conflict runs at about 120 fps and the video jsut goes blank but sound and cpu usage remain the same. I actually had the card replaced and it still does the same thing, Im wishing I spent 20$ more and went with saphire. They also have terrible driver supprot, I downloaded at 5 kb/ sec for a driver that was worse than the default vga drivers. Im actually still trying to fix it. :( 
a b U Graphics card
April 7, 2009 11:58:17 PM

I have 2 sapphire 4870x2s. Both work perfectly - no problems at all.
April 8, 2009 5:30:50 PM

mrbunny said:
It may be a little late :)  but the most recent card I bought was a powercolor 3850 agp and it will stop responding no matter how low the settings are. World in conflict runs at about 120 fps and the video jsut goes blank but sound and cpu usage remain the same. I actually had the card replaced and it still does the same thing, Im wishing I spent 20$ more and went with saphire. They also have terrible driver supprot, I downloaded at 5 kb/ sec for a driver that was worse than the default vga drivers. Im actually still trying to fix it. :( 


Wow! Now, Powercolor is scaring me. :ouch: 

Infact, it is normally said that Powercolor is a lower profile company and less popular in respect to other top 5 brands such as Sapphire, HIS, ASUS, Visiontek and XFX.

I thought that Powercolor doesn't make their card look nice and that it would still work but now I am thinking twice before picking up Powercolor card based on what you said even though, I know that not everyone is having the problem with Powercolor card but many people also complained about the problem with Powercolor card like lousy customer support, flickering screen, crash, and high temperature.
a b U Graphics card
April 8, 2009 6:06:07 PM

I've owned a PowerColor 9600XT Bravo 256MB card for 5+ years that still works perfectly. Did I get a "fluke" card that lives on forever and never dies? I doubt it. Unfortunately, this has no bearing on anything they've made since, as it's entirely possible to speculate that they have never even bothered to replace a single filter in any of their clean rooms since then, though seriously, I highly doubt that... LOL

You guys have to take something into consideration, which is a rather general rule when it comes to good publicity vs bad publicity. People who have a good experience generally tell one person, maybe two people about it. Why? Because we expect good service outright. There's no real story when you get what you wanted. Meanwhile, people who have a bad experience will usually tell at least ten people about it. Why? Because we're upset, and when we're upset, we want others to know why we are upset. Businesses have done studies time and time again that show this. Service-oriented businesses stress such things to their employees in hopes of spurring them on to provide their customers with exceptional service so they avoid the negative windfall that only a few bad experiences can stir.
April 8, 2009 7:03:20 PM

I think powercolor is just a more unreliable brand, as technoboy said they probably use cheaper components on their boards. Im going to get a saphire 4850 for my next card. But first I need money... :sarcastic: 
April 8, 2009 7:04:59 PM

I think powercolor is just a more unreliable brand, as technoboy said they probably use cheaper components on their boards. Im going to get a saphire 4850 for my next card. But first I need money... :sarcastic: 
a b U Graphics card
April 8, 2009 8:13:06 PM

Mrbunny, exploring your situation further, have you tried AMD/ATI's Catalyst drivers instead of whatever is available from PowerColor's website? Have you used Driver Sweeper or Driver Cleaner after driver uninstallation to completely remove the leftover ATI driver remnants from your system before a driver update? If not, then it's possible the card isn't causing the problem. It's also possible your PSU can't supply quite enough power for peaks in the card's power consumption. I'm guessing here, but seeing as it's happened with two cards, it's either a defect in the production line, or something else - In order to be certain it's the former, one has to rule out the latter.

All I'm really trying to point out is that maybe there's more to it than the fact that it's a PowerColor card so it must be junk...
April 8, 2009 11:53:24 PM

Razbery, Yes I did use driver cleaner before I installed the drivers. Ati did not support my card (except the hotfix drivers which worked okay). The powersupply is a cooler master 500w which should be enough, I ran power consumption caculators and they said I needed 306w and the 12v rail is 24 amps. I called customer service again and he said the only thing I could do was test it in another computer. Powercolor can be an alright brand, I personally think they are just more unreliable than other brands. My friend has an powercolor x1600 and it works alright.
a c 365 U Graphics card
April 9, 2009 12:04:26 AM

Hmmmm......

Never really stuck with any particular brand. I've bought ATI, Sapphire, and Power Color in the past.

My next video will likely be a HD 4890 made by XFX unless Sapphire releases a Vapor version of the HD 4890, but they have made no such announcement.
April 15, 2009 9:50:52 PM

I don't really mean to sound like an anti-Powercolor and I never have either good or bad experience with Powercolor cards because I never use them before but from what I heard is that many people also had problems like flickering screen, lousy customer support, bad quality, heat, crash, etc.

Anyway, I also notice that there are also people who have no problem with their Powercolor card at all. Maybe it also depends on your luck and depends on whether your card is defected or not. Well, looks like mrbunny is not very lucking this time. I am also surprise that that Powercolor did RMA the card for mrbunny but he still have problems with it. Maybe it also comes to what system you use like motherboard, chipset of motherboard, and the PSU.

However, I'm assure that most people would not choose Powercolor brand (based on the votes of the poll) and that most people would be going with something like Sapphire, HIS, Visiontek, ASUS and XFX.
April 16, 2009 1:53:16 AM

@Techno-boy, I'm happy to say I fixed the problem :) . The first card was probably ok (sorry powercolor) All I had to do was turn agp 3.0 calibration off in bios settings and, sham-wow!!! my computer works! The card is still kind of unreliable, and the cooling and clock speeds could be higher, but with what I've been through, I'm just glad it works :D . Just goes to show that you need to try everything before saying somethings junk.
a b U Graphics card
April 16, 2009 3:54:46 AM

Techno-boy said:
...but from what I heard...


That was the point I was making earlier... People hear things, and more commonly, they hear the bad things. Try this example...

Does your neighbor have a dog? Yes > Do you hear it barking? Yes > Do you notice two birds in the tree softly chirping at the same time? No. Why? Because the dog's bark is annoying the hell out of you while you're doing something important!

We, as humans, are simply more likely to notice and remember more of the bad things we hear, and make bigger fusses about them as well.


mrbunny, nice to hear you got it working. Let's hope nothing went wrong with it through all that trial and error.
a b U Graphics card
April 16, 2009 11:50:18 AM

XFX; double lifetime warrentee increases resell value, and I've never had issues with one of their cards (ATI or otherwise)
April 16, 2009 7:08:23 PM

RazberyBandit said:
That was the point I was making earlier... People hear things, and more commonly, they hear the bad things. Try this example...

Does your neighbor have a dog? Yes > Do you hear it barking? Yes > Do you notice two birds in the tree softly chirping at the same time? No. Why? Because the dog's bark is annoying the hell out of you while you're doing something important!

We, as humans, are simply more likely to notice and remember more of the bad things we hear, and make bigger fusses about them as well.


mrbunny, nice to hear you got it working. Let's hope nothing went wrong with it through all that trial and error.


Well, I heard both good things and bad things about Powercolor and also about other brands. It also depends on which review of which card model you read. Some products tend to have bad reviews from customers because perhaps bad things is more likely to happen if you pick that particular product but maybe nothing bad will happen at all. So people would read reviews and make prediction before picking up the product and it would also be based on statistic of reviews whether most of them are negative reviews or positive ones. :) 

However, you are also correct that sometimes there are also some people who just don't wanna try certain product of certain brand simply because they heard only bad things about that brand or maybe about some defected cards from that brand and that is not always a good thing to do too. :D 

Sometimes it is not only a matter of quality but a matter of warranty and I bet that if people can choose between brands like Powercolor and Sapphire/XFX, most people are more likely to go with Sapphire and XFX and I think that this is more because of who offers the best warranty. :) 
April 16, 2009 7:24:11 PM

Anyway, why does my poll shows only 1.3% or only 1 vote for Gigabyte brand????! :ouch: 

Looks like most people would not also choose Gigabyte, despite that Gigabyte offers good quality features like Ultra Durable 3 for its video card and for its motherboard included 3 years warranty for its video cards. :D 
April 16, 2009 7:34:15 PM

mrbunny said:
@Techno-boy, I'm happy to say I fixed the problem :) . The first card was probably ok (sorry powercolor) All I had to do was turn agp 3.0 calibration off in bios settings and, sham-wow!!! my computer works! The card is still kind of unreliable, and the cooling and clock speeds could be higher, but with what I've been through, I'm just glad it works :D . Just goes to show that you need to try everything before saying somethings junk.


Congratulations, mrbunny!!! :whistle: 

Lol! Looks like Powercolor is just another kind of brand that sometimes can only psychologically scares many people but sometimes, it does not cause any problem unless only if we have a wrong setting in Bios which might not make it work properly. :D 

And you were also making Powercolor scaring me at the beginning. Lol! :D 
a b U Graphics card
April 16, 2009 8:53:35 PM

This is a funny thread because it followed the trend that was spoken of. Of all the companies listed, the one that was spoken most about is the 'worse' one of them all, powercolor. It goes to show that people tend to talk about the 'bad' or 'mishaps' about companies than the good.

The double warrenty on xfx cards was mentioned a few times and visiontek was mistakenly left out of the poll, even though they have lifetime warrenties on their cards.

I bought a used saphire x800 which still works flawlessly and a new visiontek 3870 when best buy was selling it for $130. I never had any problems with the 3870 and bought it because of the lifetime warrenty. I never had to call visiontek for anything so I cannot comment on their customer service. Now I am wishing my 3870 would die because I don't think that visiontek sells the 3870 any more and I want to see what they will do. I am hoping they bump me up to the high 4000 series.

But as they all say, be careful what you wish for.
April 16, 2009 10:13:31 PM

soundefx said:
This is a funny thread because it followed the trend that was spoken of. Of all the companies listed, the one that was spoken most about is the 'worse' one of them all, powercolor. It goes to show that people tend to talk about the 'bad' or 'mishaps' about companies than the good.

The double warrenty on xfx cards was mentioned a few times and visiontek was mistakenly left out of the poll, even though they have lifetime warrenties on their cards.


Lol! You just made me laugh so hard! :D  :lol: 

Well, that's true, we end up talking more about the Powercolor brand, eventhough, this thread is suppose to be about all the brands of ATI. Lol! :lol: 

I also tried to re-edit the poll and tried to add Visiontek since it is quite a good brand with lifetime warranty for Radeon HD 4800 series but it did not work and the poll is only limited to 10 answer choices maximum. I should not had forgotten about Visiontek while I was editing the poll.
April 16, 2009 10:27:40 PM

I am also wondering whether HIS IceQ is as good as Arctic Cooling's Cooler that MSI normally used as a non-reference cooler for their card.

HIS IceQ looks more like an ordinary reference cooler so what's so special about HIS IceQ cooler from HIS? It also has only 1 fan like the reference cooler...
a b U Graphics card
April 16, 2009 11:09:20 PM

I think there is a site that showed the temperature difference between the IceQ and other coolers, with the IceQ having the lower temps all the time. Also, I believe that they use real copper, as other companies use copper paint over the metal heat sinks.

Then there is the 'cool' looking factor. Other companies use the same boring red cards but xfx and saphire cards are different, black mostly. For people like me who isn't really into colourful colours in their cases, these companies will most likely get our money because they have what we want, cool looking cards, good warrenties (xfx), and good customer service (saphire).

To add a little green into this thread, I like the way, may I dear say it, Nvidia designs their cards. The all black with the decals, I love it. Ati has one, the 4870x2, but damn if most of us could afford that.

I wish that ati or the other compaies would make an all black card like the 4870 or 4890. Sorry for going off topic.
April 16, 2009 11:26:51 PM

soundefx said:


To add a little green into this thread, I like the way, may I dear say it, Nvidia designs their cards. The all black with the decals, I love it. Ati has one, the 4870x2, but damn if most of us could afford that.

I wish that ati or the other compaies would make an all black card like the 4870 or 4890. Sorry for going off topic.


Black colour traps more heat...

Just kidding but I heard some people used to say that about anything that has black colour. :p 
a b U Graphics card
April 17, 2009 1:38:05 AM

That is probably true about the colour. But once the card is blowing most of the heat out of a case which has good air flow and enough fans blowing cool air in and hot air out, I would sacrifice a few degrees in the name of 'damn, inside that case looks good.'

Now back to the topic, kinda. I think that people who could drop a 4870x2 into their case and actually think about adding another, don't really care about the cards warranty that much. All they care about is that the card runs now and sometimes when the warranty is up, they are ready to buy another $500 card.

It's the people who buy a mid range card, 4850 - 4870 or even 4890 (if you want to call a 4890 mid range) that care about warranty and longevity of their card because they know that it better last them a long time because they don't plan to upgrade any time soon.

Therefore they come to forums like this and hear most of the companies to stay away from because we are human. It would always be easier to tell someone which company to avoid rather than tell them which ONE to buy from.

As far as I go, I tend to be on the side of warranty. Now that xfx has joined ati and their cards are 'black' in nature, I think that they will get my next purchase. I wish other ati companies follow suite and either make their cards look better or give better warranties. I wish they would do BOTH....
a b U Graphics card
April 17, 2009 1:39:54 AM

Also, I am wondering who voted powercolor?????
Don't be bashful, show yourself......
a b U Graphics card
April 17, 2009 11:52:48 AM

Is visiontek still in business? That company has been left out on the latest generation of ATI graphics card. Visiontek offer lifetime warranty. Visiontek warranty has no use now if the company is out of business.

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