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February 13, 2009 6:36:53 PM

So I want to build a new system! It's definitely time. The last system I built was before I started college and now I've been working three years. Anyway I have no idea about the market right now...


***Motherboard: At first glance...(below)...although I may not need something this expensive.
-GA-EX58-EXTREME
-Asus P6T6 WS Revolution
-Asus Rampage II Extreme

***CPU: Hells if I know? I want something that can run crysis ^_^
-Core i7 920
-Core i7 940

***RAM: Who is good right now?
-Crucial 6GB (PC3 12800) BL3KIT25664TB1608...maybe


***HDD: The raptor looks hot? They are SATA 3.0 GB/s is that not the latest SATA?
-WD3000HLFS 300GB 10000 RPM. Should I RAID two of these or get 150s maybe?

***Video Card(s): Which OEM makes the best? eVGA or Asus...or...?
-2x eVGA GeForce GTX 280

***Optical Drive: May not need this. Meh.
-PLEXTOR Black Blu-Ray SATA Model PX-B310SA SW

***Monitor: Asus monitors any good?
-ASUS VK266H Black 25.5" 2ms

***Sound: Built in, most likely.

***CPU Cooler: How do I know which cases this bad boy will fit?
-Thermalright Ultra120
-Thermalright IFX-14

***Case: No idea. Anyone have suggestions?

***Chipset cooler: Do I need one of these?


I would appreciate any comments or help. I'm not sure exactly what's good right now and
if I'm wasting money on expensive parts that I don't need. Thanks everyone.



--kortex.
February 13, 2009 7:46:42 PM

here is a list of build that will max out crysis easily and it is for ~3000 with mail in rebates and shipping

Mobo: ASUS P6T Deluxe LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail (this is the best bang for buck in core i7 motherboards

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

psu: CORSAIR CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

cpu: Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail (best bang for buck and can overclock easily to more than 3.o ghz)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ram: CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TR3X6G1600C8D - Retail (this is the best ram brand in my opinion and i have this ram and it is great)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

hardrive: get 2x Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000HLFS 300GB 10000 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM and run them in raid 0

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and get a Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

videocarsds: Evga makes the best cards and the best single card is gtx 285 so get 2 of them and sli them

2x EVGA 01G-P3-1281-AR GeForce GTX 285 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail (you can replace it with a 1 gtx 295 but this will be better than 1 gtx 295)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

optical drive:the best are LG in my opinion because i have it and it is running very well than i have imagined

LG Black Blu-ray/HD DVD-ROM & 16X DVD±R DVD Burner SATA Model GGC-H20L - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor:the best bang for buck well be the ASUS VK266H Black 25.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

sound:the built in the asus rampage is wonderful

cpu cooler:the best is Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme RT 1366 CPU Cooler but it isn't found at newegg so i will give you a link to a website where it is sold in a very good price and remember to purchase a 120 mm fan as it doesn't come with any fans

http://www.crazypc.com/store/merchant.mvc?

thermal paste: ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

case:the best is HAF 932,you may want to know what does HAF stand for,it stands for High Air Flow and they were really true as it with the thermal right ultra cooler will see your cpu at very good temp even with overclocking

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

chipset cooler:you don't need any chipset cooler
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February 17, 2009 12:33:53 PM

Thanks for the great replies!! I'm looking at these builds so I can determine what I should do :) .
February 17, 2009 12:39:24 PM

I have a build on Musti's Custom gaming pc thread under $3000, should look if you want.
February 17, 2009 11:17:32 PM

Best gaming monitor is BenQ G2400WD or V2400W.
February 18, 2009 3:18:09 PM

Again, thanks for the detailed replies! Thanks to computersss, xthekidx and FullMetall for providing full system builds... I have a few questions...

Questions for all: 1 or 2 video cards? Is it better to split them up and run SLI or just use good one? Why does everyone say the P6T deluxe and not the rampage 2 extreme? I see two different models on the ASUS website for the P6T...How can I make sure I get the V2, because I can't seem to find it anywhere...


theAnimal: Why is the BenQ G2400WD better than the Asus monitor? Also what's the difference
between "5ms" and 2ms (GTG)?" The GTG is green to green right and the 5ms is what?
Most companies just list the GTG...is that because it has a lower time than the other?
Edit: The BenQ G2400WD has a 250 cd/m^2 brightness whereas other monitors have
300 or so cd/m^2...Is this bad :S? Thanks.

FullMetall: Is there a reason you chose OCZ ram over crucial?


I already have this power supply "PSU ANTEC|TPQ-1000 1000W RT." Will that be sufficient to run the system? I can get a 550 or so to put in the computer that the 1000 is in. I bought it 05/30/2008 for $199 and now it's $249.99, so the new one may be better...
February 18, 2009 3:32:45 PM

Timings, DDR3 OCZ triple channels i picked have a good rate, and tight timings.

the crosairs that are the most reviewed, you can probably tighten the timings on them to make them more of a better set, but, ocz comes at 7-7-7-20.

and yes the 1000w would, but, it's kinda overkill..unless your sli'ing or crossfire. Would say get a 750tx or 850tx at max corsair.

and that monitor, is overpriced, BenQ. Going to get a 24" get the Acer 24" or the ASUS 23.6". idk why is says that but its under the 24" models.

If your going to SLI get the GTX 285's, that will run a 1000w but, if you want to crossfire, Sapphire 4870. If not, better off staying with the 4870x2 single card dual gpu.


and the mobo issue, would have to spec them both out and compare units to see why and why not.
February 18, 2009 3:54:45 PM

kortex said:

theAnimal: Why is the BenQ G2400WD better than the Asus monitor? Also what's the difference
between "5ms" and 2ms (GTG)?" The GTG is green to green right and the 5ms is what?
Most companies just list the GTG...is that because it has a lower time than the other?
Edit: The BenQ G2400WD has a 250 cd/m^2 brightness whereas other monitors have
300 or so cd/m^2...Is this bad :S? Thanks.


Read this.
February 18, 2009 4:11:19 PM

Still, dont care about reviews, that thing is way to overpriced, you can get a 2500:1 acer 24" for 169.99, or the asus.
February 18, 2009 4:22:05 PM

fullmetall said:
Still, dont care about reviews, that thing is way to overpriced, you can get a 2500:1 acer 24" for 169.99, or the asus.


It's not a review.

With monitors you generally get what you pay for, and you will have to look at it a lot for many years.

I see no reason to get a cheap monitor on a $3000 budget.
February 18, 2009 4:40:09 PM

Yeah man, if you make a sweet build and get a cheap monitor then you're quite simply a retard
February 18, 2009 5:48:51 PM

theAnimal said:
It's not a review.

With monitors you generally get what you pay for, and you will have to look at it a lot for many years.

I see no reason to get a cheap monitor on a $3000 budget.

+1

Did you ever stop and wonder why those other monitors are priced twice as high as the acer monitors? Probably a reason for it don't you think?

I like the BenQ

I have a smaller version of that Samsung that Fooly linked and its excellent, so keep it in mind.
February 20, 2009 6:17:18 PM

Here's what I have so far:


~Basic Internals~
Mobo: Asus P6T Deluxe *OR* P6T Deluxe V2?
CPU: Intel Core i7 920
PSU: Antec TPQ-1000 1000W RT
RAM: Corsair Dominator 3x2gb (TR3X6G1600C8D)
HDD: 2x WD Raptor 300GB SATA 3.0Gb/s

~Other Stuff~
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel
Video Card(s): Dual 280 or 285 or 295? Brand?
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme or Cooler Master V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP?
Thermal Paste: Arctic Cooling MX-2 Thermal Compound (this doesn't matter much right?)
OS: I was thinking Windows 7 Beta :\...May not be good for gaming though? Vista better?
Monitor: Still up in the air on this. The BenQ or the Asus or Samsung...I'm confused about the specs.
Optical Drive: LG Black Super Multi Blu-ray Disc Burner GGW-H20L

I guess the things I haven't decided on are motherboard, video cards, cpu cooler, OS and monitor lol. Any more comments would be appreciated.
February 20, 2009 9:29:21 PM

Get the Deluxe V2

I like this ram better for the price , I use these personally:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you are going to get a monitor that is 24" or bigger, then get the GTX 295, since it sounds like you can afford it.

This PSU is a better quality than that antec, although the antec will be good too.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

But you only need 1000w for 2 gtx 295's, so if you won't get two of them, and you wont need two unless you are going to play at 25x16 res, then get the PC P&C 750w for one GTX 295. The brand of the GTX 295 isn't that big of a deal, EVGA is my personal favorite because of their stepup program (meaningless for you because they don't have a better card than that) and they have excellent customer service.
February 21, 2009 7:33:00 PM

xthekidx,

I may get that power supply instead. The only reason I would get the antec is because I already have it lol :) . I may leave it in the machine it's in though. I switched to the OCZ ram and the GTX 295. I'd like to see a review of the single GTX 295 vs. dual 280s or something though. I looked around and didn't see it.

I guess my issues are still OS, monitor and CPU cooler. I want a good 24" gaming monitor. What do you think about the thermalright ultra120 extreme vs the cooler master V8? Thanks so much for all your replies.
February 21, 2009 8:31:02 PM

Dual GTX 280's outperform a single GTX 295. I saw a review of dual GTX 260+'s vs the GTX 295 and they were almost identical in every benchmark, in a couple the 295 got like 1 or 2 FPS more in the game, but the difference was negligable. This makes a lot of sense to me if you look at the memory size and the clock speeds of these cards, two GTX 260+'s and the GTX 295 are practically identical, the only differnces is there are 48 more stream processors in the GTX 295 (432 vs 480). I can't remember where I saw this reveiw, I will dig around and post it here if I find it.

Those two coolers are very close, the TRUE gets 1-2C cooler on high overclocks than the V8. Either will do very well.

My recommendation for a good 24" monitor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
February 21, 2009 11:29:56 PM

xthekidx said:
Dual GTX 280's outperform a single GTX 295. I saw a review of dual GTX 260+'s vs the GTX 295 and they were almost identical in every benchmark, in a couple the 295 got like 1 or 2 FPS more in the game, but the difference was negligable. This makes a lot of sense to me if you look at the memory size and the clock speeds of these cards, two GTX 260+'s and the GTX 295 are practically identical, the only differnces is there are 48 more stream processors in the GTX 295 (432 vs 480). I can't remember where I saw this reveiw, I will dig around and post it here if I find it.

Those two coolers are very close, the TRUE gets 1-2C cooler on high overclocks than the V8. Either will do very well.

My recommendation for a good 24" monitor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...




http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarte...
February 22, 2009 8:14:18 AM

I wonder how many and which games that's based on, I'm suprised that the CCC9.x drivers hike the perf so much
February 23, 2009 2:29:07 AM

So it looks like a single GTX 295 is the way to go. Dual 280s would be a lot to spend on video cards. However, if I get the 295, I can wait until the price goes down eventually and then get another. What are the CCC9.x drivers? Anyway, thanks for the great advice. Either of those coolers will do fine I guess, so I'll probably just order the V8 because they have it on newegg. I like that monitor. It will be fine with FPSs right? I don't want to be picky but it's been like 8 years since I've built a new computer and I don't want to screw this one up lol. Anyone tried windows 7 beta yet? I can't decide whether to install that or Vista 64 bit...
February 23, 2009 3:21:39 AM

The only way you achieve like a $3000 build these days is like dual or tri SLIing like GTX 295s.

Get the top of the line i7 maybe even Extreme if it fits in your budget?
February 23, 2009 11:08:15 AM

you see how the 4870x2 catx9 card overcomes the gtx 295 as the resolution gets bigger right..

gtx 295 should be fine..but, if you want to hit your budget, i'd sli. but, you should be fine.
February 23, 2009 11:53:20 AM

It's not really about hitting my budget, but making a good gaming machine :) . Have any of guys tried windows 7 beta for gaming yet?
February 23, 2009 11:55:24 AM

The 295 will make it a good gaming machine, but, sli'ing will put you at a really high level for gaming, monitor wise, idk what it will do but, as for windows 7, i'd have to ask my uncle.
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