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Can someone tell me if this system will run Crysis adequately, Thanks.

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March 12, 2009 8:58:07 PM

How does this look? I'll be running 1680x1050 and I I would prefer to stay with Nvidia (personal preference) and I'm wondering if I should step it up to the gtx 280. Would it be worth the money? And, I don't NEED this system for about a month, will the price drop enough for me to wait or should i just get it now?


SOFWARE:
Vista 64-Bit
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders – OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$100

EXTERNAL:
Case
Antec 300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
120x25mm BLUE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$60 + $10x2 = $80
OR
120x25mm RED
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$60 + $15x2 = $90

Monitor
ASUS VW224U Black 22" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ HDCP Support 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 5000:1) Built in Speakers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$170 (20 rebate)

INTERNAL:
Power Supply
Corsair 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$100 (20 rebate)

Processor
Intel Core i7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$290

Mother Board
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD4P LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$270 (20 rebate)

Graphics Card
EVGA 896-P3-1257-A1 GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 Superclocked Edition 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$220 (20 rebate)

Memory
OCZ 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$100 (20 rebate)

Drive
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$80 x2 = $160

DVD Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N...
$25

TOTAL
$1525
-100 rebates
$1425
March 12, 2009 9:11:42 PM

Nice build ! youll be able to run Crysis near maxed. with 2x AA. if you want to go MAXED you need a GTX285 for this RES.
March 12, 2009 9:12:49 PM

DUH
i have a dualie 5400x2 AMD (2.8 ghz stock) and a 4850 at 1440x900 and have NO trouble. Have fun dude
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March 12, 2009 9:34:45 PM

If you could wait 5 months, core i5 / intel 55 chipset / radeon 5xxx would be coming, the whole platform being about $300 cheaper and gfx cards' price may be fallen by 30%. But upto you, if 400 bucks in 6 months don't matter much, go ahead, it's a nice build already.
a c 106 U Graphics card
March 12, 2009 9:39:03 PM

As cheap as that 260 sp216 is you may as well consider picking up two to run in SLI. Since that 260 is overclocked it will be pretty close in performance to the 280 so you won't see much benefit spending more money to get the 280 over the single 260. You should be good in Crysis with the single card, but at 1680 x 1050 you won't be able to really turn up AA and AF on Very High so in that event you may want to consider getting two. Of course SLI seems to benefit greatly from overclocking on i7s so I hope you don't plan on leaving it at stock speeds ^_^.
a c 177 U Graphics card
March 12, 2009 9:41:33 PM

Wait for a few weeks, everyone seems to be engaged in a vicious price war right now, if you hang fire you will most likely pick up a bargain.
Do n`t go for the GTX280 unless it`s cheap, there`s little between it and the GTX260 at your chosen resoloution, certainly not enough to justify the current price difference.
a b U Graphics card
March 12, 2009 9:41:34 PM

You should get two 4870s and crossfire them. (Many of the new i7 boards support both SLi and crossfire)

The 4870s outperform the GTX260, and cost about $150-$170 for 512mb and 1gb repsectively, so they're $30-50 cheaper
a b U Graphics card
March 12, 2009 9:45:35 PM

hsetir said:
If you could wait 5 months, core i5 / intel 55 chipset / radeon 5xxx would be coming, the whole platform being about $300 cheaper and gfx cards' price may be fallen by 30%. But upto you, if 400 bucks in 6 months don't matter much, go ahead, it's a nice build already.

Yeah and 5 months after that who knows. Lets live for now. The IT industry moves so fast if you buy a top of everything system it will be superseded within 12 months. For god sake lets enjoy the hardware we have now.
March 12, 2009 10:21:04 PM

Let's say I want to buy another gtx260 C216 for SLI, but I won't have the money for it for about 4 months. Will the card still be purchasable?

And can someone check to see if the card I have selected is the 55nm version? I don't know where to look for that...

Thanks for all the help!
March 12, 2009 10:31:21 PM

Oh and can someone tell me what the benefit of all the AA is? I really just want to be able to play with a good frame rate. It doesn't have to look like crystal-freaking-clear, as long as it's fluid motion and whatnot. I'm normally a console gamer so I'm used to average/poor quality renders.
a b U Graphics card
March 13, 2009 12:06:42 AM

You probably could max the settings with 2aa but not much more @ 1680x1050. My setup with 2 gtx 260 oc runs crysis maxed out with 16aa @ 1920x1080
AA just makes the edges smoother.
March 13, 2009 12:14:03 AM

will i need more than 650W if i plan to SLI the gtx when they come down in prices? i hope not...
March 13, 2009 12:57:29 AM

Thanks for that quick easy explanation of AA. AntiAliasing?
March 13, 2009 12:59:52 AM

Alright, last question.
I've never owned anything Asus. I understand the TN panel LCD will be cheap but will it be goodish? Is Asus quality better than Acer? or Hanns G?
a b U Graphics card
March 13, 2009 1:57:09 AM

invisik said:
You probably could max the settings with 2aa but not much more @ 1680x1050. My setup with 2 gtx 260 oc runs crysis maxed out with 16aa @ 1920x1080
AA just makes the edges smoother.


Crysis at max with 16AA?

What framerate? I can't imagine it would be great. My 4870x2 barely runs smoothly (~28FPS) at 4xAA, 1920x1200, all settings very high, and I wouldn't think 1920x1080 would be that much less demanding. I usually just don't bother with the AA in crysis - it doesn't make as much of a difference in Crysis as in some other games IMO, and with no AA, I can average about 40FPS with all settings on very high, 1920x1200.

I would say a single 260 could max it with decent frame rates and no AA at 1680x1050, and 2x or possibly 4xAA would be doable without too much of a hit, but it depends how picky you are.
March 13, 2009 5:06:36 AM

dekleining said:
will i need more than 650W if i plan to SLI the gtx when they come down in prices? i hope not...


Yea you'll need more power 750-850W(little extra incase) make sure you stick with a respected brand like corsair too.

I do fairly well in Crysis with my single gtx 285. All settings on Very High and max AA/AF and 1680x1050 I avg ~25fps on the Crysis benchmark. Darn game is just so unforgiving lol. Runs ok when it comes to actual gameplay at those settings IMO the benchmark is a little lower than what you see in game, I backed off the AA/AF a little just to make sure I had completely smooth gameplay. As for a gtx 260 Very High settings @ 1680x1050 should be doable but I'd say AA/AF are out of the question.
March 13, 2009 5:21:45 AM

Yeah I'm going with the Corsair 750tx

what monitors do you run to get the best out of these insane systems!?

i have a 24in iMac with the crazy good screen, but buying another screen like that will be SO expensive.
March 13, 2009 6:29:31 AM

meh I've had a Dell 20.1" 1680x1050 for a few years now and I'm content still. Sure i'd love to have a higher res screen but do I want to fork out the dough for a 30" no...lol

IMO if you want a nice screen w/o going overboard look at 24" or higher screens at a native res of 1920x1200 or better. If you get stuck compare response times and contrast ratio's. I'm not 'too' up on what brands are good or not but ASUS, and Samsung seem to stand out in my mind as decent brands. I'm not going to boast about my Dell as it has a few small fading spots after only 3 years of fairly constant use.
a b U Graphics card
March 13, 2009 6:41:15 AM

I run a Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP rev A01 that I got on sale for $500 or so. I absolutely love it. Incredible color and clarity.
March 13, 2009 12:51:08 PM

Because I'm putting a lot of money into this system, my monitor funds are somewhat limited.

As a company, would you promote Asus over Acer? They both make sub 200 displays with nearly identical specs... :/  so freaking confusing!
March 13, 2009 1:28:13 PM

You are not be abele to play crysis at 1680x1050 with very high DX10 setting take a look the following chart


This is with corei7 system

You see that even with this resolution the GTX280 gets 30fps (unplayable) you defiantly need GTX295 or GTX280 SLI to enjoy crysis with max setting and good frame rates.
a b U Graphics card
March 13, 2009 3:15:05 PM

I don't know about that - 30FPS is fairly playable in crysis as long as there aren't significant drops below that (which was my problem with 4xAA - my average was 28, but there were drops to 15 or so). That chart does make it somewhat more questionable though. For some reason, I thought a single 280 and a single 260 did better than that.
March 13, 2009 4:55:02 PM

no you are going to be playing at or close to 30 fps w/a single card. 'but' if you can handle not playing w/a great framerate it is playable just not awsome. Playing on high instead of very high will make your framerates at 1680x1050 pretty decent though.
March 13, 2009 6:12:52 PM

cjl said:
I don't know about that - 30FPS is fairly playable in crysis as long as there aren't significant drops below that (which was my problem with 4xAA - my average was 28, but there were drops to 15 or so). That chart does make it somewhat more questionable though. For some reason, I thought a single 280 and a single 260 did better than that.


30fps is the average the minimum will be something like 20fps and these results are from the benchmark in the first level witch is not very intensive. For example in the level exodus is very intensive and the fps will be something like 15fps.
The chart is in DX10 if you use DX9 you will get better performance.

For example in crysis i get 44fps(1680x1050 0xAA veryhigh DX10) and 53fps(1680x1050 8xAA ultrahigh(mod) DX9) you see now how unoptimised is the DX10.
March 13, 2009 10:13:17 PM

Hoe can i switch to D9 when i get this system?

and about how long are cards on the shelf? will the gtx 260 be purchasable in 3 months when i will have enough money for another?
a b U Graphics card
March 13, 2009 11:55:11 PM

There are MUCH cheaper ones on newegg. The 4870-512 goes for $150, and the 4870-1gb goes for under $200
March 15, 2009 6:43:27 AM

I now have an extra $100 to put into this system.

Should I:
Double the RAM (to 12GB)
or put it towards a graphics card?
a b U Graphics card
March 15, 2009 6:55:42 AM

Doubling the RAM will help for really heavy multitasking, but it won't do a darn thing for gaming. If you want gaming capability, go for the graphics.
March 15, 2009 7:34:33 AM

could you emphasize how *heavy* you mean??
a b U Graphics card
March 15, 2009 8:06:41 AM

To use more than 6 gigs of ram, it would have to be pretty heavy. I'm talking about something like simultaneous use of MATLAB or CAD or something while encoding video. For anything remotely resembling normal use, 6 gigs is more than enough.
March 15, 2009 8:13:00 AM

Oh, yeah I def won't be doing that. I think i'll just save the money. 100 more on a video card doesn't get you another 100 dollars worth. Thanks
March 15, 2009 8:14:38 AM

Alright, for those of you interested, here's the system I'm ordering:

Case
Antec 300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
120x25mm BLUE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
120x25mm RED
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$60 + $15x2 = $90

Monitor
BenQ E2200HD 21.5IN 16:9 Widescreen Black LCD Monitor 2MS 1920X1080 10000:1 Senseye HDMI DVI VGA
http://store.benq.us/benq-us/product.aspx?sku=3880705&s...
$230

INTERNAL:
Power Supply
Corsair 750W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$120

Processor
Intel Core i7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$290

Thermal Paste
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$7

Mother Board
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD4P LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$270

Graphics Card
EVGA 896-P3-1257-A1 GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$195

Memory
G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$100

Drive
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$80 x2 = $160

DVD Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$25
a b U Graphics card
March 15, 2009 1:01:24 PM

cjl said:
Crysis at max with 16AA?

What framerate? I can't imagine it would be great. My 4870x2 barely runs smoothly (~28FPS) at 4xAA, 1920x1200, all settings very high, and I wouldn't think 1920x1080 would be that much less demanding. I usually just don't bother with the AA in crysis - it doesn't make as much of a difference in Crysis as in some other games IMO, and with no AA, I can average about 40FPS with all settings on very high, 1920x1200.

I would say a single 260 could max it with decent frame rates and no AA at 1680x1050, and 2x or possibly 4xAA would be doable without too much of a hit, but it depends how picky you are.



The frames stay around 30fps avg. On crysis setting i have 16aa on but when i go higher to 16aaQ its unplayable fps drop below 15. One thing i noticed that helped my fps was turning aero and some the extra vista settings off.
March 15, 2009 7:40:06 PM

Might look into a larger case. The gtx series cards are quite large.
March 15, 2009 8:09:48 PM

i have friends with the case and the gtx 280. it just sacrifices some HD space, i'm ok with that.
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