Intel Pentium D 940 HUGE BOTTLENECK!

Hey recently purchased a 8800gs and my Pentium D 940 3.2Ghz bottlenecks the crap out of it. But seems on games like crysis, Wanted Weapons of fate there is minimum bottleneck.

Gears of war fps is very jumpy, Left 4 Dead 60fps then zombies come at me 20-25fps, Wolverine low fps too even at 1024x768 25-30fps.

Im a gamer. I was thinking maybe a Intel Pentium Dual Core E2200 and overclock it to 3.0Ghz would solve my problem

Thanks in advance

e2200 @ 3.0 will help alot. So would a new GPU, the one you got is a piece of crap.

Nope its crap, but if you got a certain budget theres not much you can do.

Oh come on. The 8800GS is not a piece of crap. The 8400GT is a piece of crap. The 8800GS is outdated, but it certainly has enough power for most modern games at medium settings, and is probably not the bottleneck in the system mentioned.

Oh, and the Pentium Dual Core series would be a pretty significant upgrade. It should help a lot.

The OP is not looking for video card purchasing advice, therefore none of you are helping. The 8800GS is a decent match for a Pentium Dual Core, and while a new card would help, it won't until he dumps that crappy old Pentium D. He could throw a HD4870 in there with little benefit. It's all about priorities, and you're just confusing his. Also, the 4650 is not 3 generations ahead, it's only 1 or 2.

The 9600GT will still beat an 8800GS when Antialiasing is turned on unless it has a rather heavy overclock, but under most conditions the 8800GS is such a monster overclocker that it can outrun a 9600GT. I would ensure you have at least 2GB of RAM as well, otherwise you'll find you get stuttering with higher graphical settings. 4GB would be preferable, and RAM is cheap right now.

Isn't the 4650 and 4670 the same card just different clocks?

OP what is the mobo you have in that rig?

Might help in terms of what CPU will support it.

An old 65nm part which you can easily overclock sounds the go.

Many of the older boards wouldn't support the higher clocked dual core orquad core cpu's due to the power regulators.

Throw the mobo detail this way and we will see what suits.

random and cjl's graphics advice is sound too ...

Are you kidding??

The 940 is nothing more than 2 P4's stuck together with a bit of smoke and mirrors.

The X-Bar is primitive and the architecture flawed due to the poor cache design among other things ... in particular the Replay MUX which was a disaster ... causing a dramatic drop in IPC due to the cache endlesly cycling.

Even an E2200 would waste a P4 dual core ... runnning at half the speed.

I didn't mean to imply that the 940 is a great chip, I merely mentioned that there are two real cores on that chip. Most P4s show two cores due only to the Hyper Threading "trick" that they do. The 940 has two (slow) cores. This makes it faster then the 5xx and 6xx P4s that many people bought.

They might be slow, but again, they should be capable of power an 8800GS. Putting in a faster CPU isn't going to boost his FPS by 25%+. I would like to know what he has in his system, perhaps there is something else causing his slow downs.

The pentium dual core would help a lot especially if you can get the E5200.

As for the 8800gs, is it the one with 96 stream processors, or one of the modified ones with 48?

hi guys!

in 2008 i got this pc:

PD 945 @ 4 ghz

Kingston 667 @ 630

Ati Radeon HD 3850 256mb

in lots of games like l4d my fps when the zombies explosions etc.. appear my fps simple go down

when i upgraded it to a Q8200 im l4d counter-strike source and other games i got a good FPS RISE

in CSS something like 50+ FPS and l4d 15+ ( o.o )

so the Bottleneck is that Damm piece of crap Pentium D u.u

( sorry about my english xD )

what are you talking about ,i have a Penitum D 950+a 9600gt and crysis runs brilliant @ high details.

*BLINK**BLINK*

Does someone else wanna flame the noob or should I?

My dad runs at 1680x1050 on Very High DX10 on an 8800GTS 512MB and a Q6600. He gets about 15FPS, but to him that's "brilliant." The OP is not finding it "brilliant," therefore he needs to upgrade. You can keep your dinosaur as long as you want but just because you think it runs fine doesn't mean everybody else does. You have in no way helped the OP. However, you did manage to double your post count which I'm sure makes you feel great.

The HD4650 and HD4670 both have 320 stream processors. The main difference is that the HD4650 usually uses GDDR2 instead of GDDR3, along with a slower core clock.

Not necessarily, there are multiple versions of the 9600gso. Some are just an 8800gs with a new sticker, some have 768MB of RAM and some of them are neutered 9600GTs with only 48 stream processors.

Good pickup there pat.

OP check your temps as the firebreathing CPU you have there might be throttling due to a thermal problem.

Check temps at idle and under load.

Let us know how you go.

Reseating the CPU with new thermal paste and blowing out the HSF with some compressed air before reattaching is a good move.

Temperature of Intel PD 940

39C idle
51C Load

Fans on 50%

Program Used:SpeedFan

Keep the system specs coming. Perhaps by post 56 we can get a clear picture of what we are dealing with. What we know so far,

P4D 940
Motherboard is junk, but we have no idea what it is
RAM is 2GB (2x1? 1x2?) running at 533MHz
GPU is the 8800GS
Harddrive is unknown
PSU is unknown
OS is unknown
Resolution is 1024x768.

The P4 is a good candidate for the low scores, but with no 3DMark 06 scores we have no idea. (broken down please if you can/care) It might also be a ram problem if your using a single 2GB stick and are running Vista. It could also be a power issue if your PSU is really old and its struggling to power the P4 and the 8800GS. (which does use a 6pin PCIe plug, or at least mine does.) As I said in my first post,

Always try to get a clear picture of whats going on before telling people how to spend their money. The P4 might be the issue, but there are other possibilities as well.

We're getting there

Next I'd like to know if your P4 is thermally throttling or not. Check out this link and see if it is.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/104

Might want to run the program, game for awhile, then exit out of the game and see if it did. Perhaps you just need to dust out your computer.

Whoops, been a long thread. I guess I give the P4D to much credit. I mean even my single core 3500+ was able to play TF2 at 1280x1024 with an x1800xt. Wouldn't a dual core P4 and a faster 8800GS at 1024x768 be able to do the same? I still think there is something else going on.

why PD's are hot?

my Q8200 and my PD 945 have the same temps lol
q8200 in idle its 45°C and full load ( prime ) 65°C ( cooler box ) and the PD
in idle its 5°C more 50°C and full load 70°C lol

Eh....I played that game at 1440x900 so yeah its faster. But its not enough. Thread been going for a long time lol. And for the guy above my comment MY PD doesnt get hot for some reason ive never seen it past 53C so no heat problem. I think of narrowed it down to RAM at 533Mhz being the problem.

Your GPU and CPU are fine, i think you should upgrade your Rams if they aren't already 800mhz

Ok guys ran 3DMARK06 and got 6800Marks which i think is crap. Cpu was 1595 score.

What was the rest of the 06 scores? I haven't run 06 on my new rig, I might get some time to do that tomorrow. (I have the 8800GS as well, but 4GBs of ram and the E6600.)