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E5400 @3.5ghz vs E8400/PhenomII @ 3.5ghz

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I've read conflicting reviews in which some say the extra 4 mbs of cache makes a big difference and some say clock speed is still king. I know the e5400 will pretty much lag behind clock for clock but how much of a real world difference are we talking about here?

The reason I am asking this is because I was able to get my new e5400 to 3.5 ghz stable on stock cooling and on the free motherboard that came with it (Fry's anniversary sale, e5400 + biostar 31g mobo for $79). Initially, I was going in to see if they had any Phenom II's on sale but the only one was a 810 + 780v mobo for 199, which I didn't think was worth it, so I settled on the e5400. Don't get me wrong, I think the e5400 is a killer deal and I'm amazed at how well it overclocks even on this mobo/fan but there's still that empty feeling inside me that says I'm missing out on the raw power of a phenom II.

Assuming I get a reasonable overclock of around 3.5ghz on an e8400 or a Phenom II 720be, is it worth the extra money to switch up to a faster processor?

Whatever the case, I can't picture myself with the current biostar g31 board as it only supports pcie 1 and I can't adjust the memory volts, which has already affected my system's stability a little (using 2.0v rated memo, board only feeds it 1.85)

I have 14 more days to return my e5400 purchase so if I see a good Phenom II deal within that time, should I just go for it?

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The extra cache certainly would help, however the real world performance difference would probably be negligible. The phenom II 720be would be a good choice if you need to do plenty of multitasking/encoding. However, clock for clock the 720 would lose to either the e5400 or the e8400 in anything that wouldn't require more than two cores. If you already have the e5400, you don't need to upgrade to the e8400, however if you need the extra core, the phenom II would be a nice upgrade.

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The extra cache certainly would help, however the real world performance difference would probably be negligible. The phenom II 720be would be a good choice if you need to do plenty of multitasking/encoding. However, clock for clock the 720 would lose to either the e5400 or the e8400 in anything that wouldn't require more than two cores. If you already have the e5400, you don't need to upgrade to the e8400, however if you need the extra core, the phenom II would be a nice upgrade.



Well, I have the e5400 right now but I still have that 2 week window to return it and look for better deals.

At first, I thought I'd be alright with the g31 board that came with my e5400 but it's looking like I'll have to upgrade the board if I do decide to stick with the e5400 (to possibly a p43 board)

So in the end, It looks like I'll be spending roughly $140-$160 (depending on board purchase) for my e5400 system. Last week, I saw that Fry's was selling the 720BE + 760g mobo for $160. If they have a similar deal in the next two weeks, I'll probably switch boards/cpu if there is a noticable performance difference. I'm kinda surprised you said clock for clock the phenom II 720be would lose to the e5400.

On a somewhat related side note, did anyone catch that slick deal for the Big Typhoon CPU cooler at Fry's today :sol: ? $35 - $35 MIR = Free. I'll be using that to cool whatever CPU I get (seems to work with both AM2 and 775).


Message edited by hoopslam on 05-18-2009 at 02:52:02 AM
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Great job on getting up to 3.5GHz. I'm not that familiar with the 5400, but I know you've done well if you can get the 5200 up to 3.0, let alone 3.5. (3.5GHz is pretty much unheard of with the 5200, at least on air/stock cooler.) The 8400 has more then just an extra 4MBs of L2 cache. It has the faster FSB (1333 vs 800) and an extra 300MHz.

Clock speed wise the 720 is right in there. (2.8GHz vs 3.0/2.7GHz.) It might not be as efficient clock for clock, but at least the clocks are close. What it does have over the other chips is the extra core. For tasks that like cores, this should help it to be faster. Whether you should get it however is hard to say.

You didn't give us one clue as to what you use the machine for. If your just surfing or light gaming, stay with what you have. If you do transcoding or heavy Photoshop use, get the 720. The extra core will help, and it will be money well spent.

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I just meant clock for clock in anything that requires two or fewer cores, the e5400 would be faster. However as 4745454b said, the extra core would help with encoding. I forgot to also consider the fact that with the motherboard supporting the 720be, there is a chance that AMD will make future CPU's that support that board, while Intel has no plans to make any more CPU's for socket 775.

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"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" and "don't screw with success" You got a great deal on the CPU and mobo, they're performing great, drop the money in another area.

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