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9600 GSO is this a bad card in your professional opinion?

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March 14, 2009 5:10:07 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I have a 9 inch monitor (hahah yeah yeah I know a peace of crap) and I want to play the usual Crysis Warhead Far cry 2 etc.

My budget is pretty low and with all the parts I'm buying the other parts with this is just enough

Do you guys think this card is bad for what I want it for? Especially since it doesn't have a fan, I'm not sure what that cooler thing on it is or if it's efficient.

What's your opinion, the price I'm paying for this is all I can spend. Is this the best bang for my buck? If not what is, in your opinion?
March 14, 2009 5:39:36 PM

I just want a quick answer is it good or not yeesh help someone out for once pleease..
a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2009 5:44:21 PM

Not bad, but what type of power supply are you putting it with? If you are using a cheap no name power supply, I think you'd be safer with this card....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Performance should be comparable, but the 4670 from what I understand does not require as much power draw.
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March 14, 2009 5:52:59 PM

ohiou_grad_06 said:
Not bad, but what type of power supply are you putting it with? If you are using a cheap no name power supply, I think you'd be safer with this card....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Performance should be comparable, but the 4670 from what I understand does not require as much power draw.


Thanks so much for being the only person on here to give a quick opinion, no one ever helps me on this forum for some reason :(  . I wish there was more people like you on this forum :D 

I might be using a 300 watt power supply from sapphire. You think that's good enough? by the way this is gonna be my new build

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
March 14, 2009 5:57:36 PM

You would be better off with a Radeon HD4670, roughly as powerful but without the need for an external power supply, so your 300w power supplu should be fine with it.
March 14, 2009 6:07:46 PM

crusoe74 said:
You would be better off with a Radeon HD4670, roughly as powerful but without the need for an external power supply, so your 300w power supplu should be fine with it.


Aww do I really need to get it? How much worse is the 4670 to the 9600GSO? I don't want the quality of my games to go down. Is the 4670 worse than the 9600 GSO? I want to get the best bang for what I'm spending, not something that's lower. Is it lower in quality by a large margin?
a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2009 6:09:47 PM

For a 9 inch screen I think the 4670 is way more than enough. It should be good enough to run up to a 19 inch widescreen if you turn down a little of the eye candy. Just do some google searches for that vs the 9600 gso. Another thing you want to keep in mind you are only using a 300 watt power supply. I've not heard much of power supplies from sapphire. So you may be pushing your luck even with the 4670. But it should be able to handle being on a 300-400 watt psu. But the 9600 gso usually requires an external power connection so I don't know that I would run that on a cheapo power supply. Because if the power supply goes out, could take other stuff with it.

Also, processor, I have a 5200+ x2 myself, good chip. This should thrash it, and is not much more cash.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also, consider this mobo, gigabyte and biostar are better I think, if you can find a good one cheap, but this seems to have capability to let you go to a quad core later, as well as a decent set of features and good newegg rating.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For the ECS board you were looking at, I would not do that, especially not open box. My experiences with ECS have not always been good, and open box many times means it was returned for some reason or other, maybe someone before you messed it up somehow and may not have all the drivers with it, so a low end board with no drivers and something likely messed up, you can try, but I'd get the extra cash.

If you do get a better quality power supply however, I would reccomend a 4830 for the video card, it's about 90 bucks, but is a much better card than the 4670 or 9600 gso.
March 14, 2009 6:39:19 PM

ohiou_grad_06 said:
For a 9 inch screen I think the 4670 is way more than enough. It should be good enough to run up to a 19 inch widescreen if you turn down a little of the eye candy. Just do some google searches for that vs the 9600 gso. Another thing you want to keep in mind you are only using a 300 watt power supply. I've not heard much of power supplies from sapphire. So you may be pushing your luck even with the 4670. But it should be able to handle being on a 300-400 watt psu. But the 9600 gso usually requires an external power connection so I don't know that I would run that on a cheapo power supply. Because if the power supply goes out, could take other stuff with it.

Also, processor, I have a 5200+ x2 myself, good chip. This should thrash it, and is not much more cash.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also, consider this mobo, gigabyte and biostar are better I think, if you can find a good one cheap, but this seems to have capability to let you go to a quad core later, as well as a decent set of features and good newegg rating.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For the ECS board you were looking at, I would not do that, especially not open box. My experiences with ECS have not always been good, and open box many times means it was returned for some reason or other, maybe someone before you messed it up somehow and may not have all the drivers with it, so a low end board with no drivers and something likely messed up, you can try, but I'd get the extra cash.

If you do get a better quality power supply however, I would reccomend a 4830 for the video card, it's about 90 bucks, but is a much better card than the 4670 or 9600 gso.


Okay I've found this motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And I found this video card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Is this good with the 300 watt in your opinion?

And about the cpu you suggested, does that come with a fan or any kind of cooling system? I don't want to have to spend more on a fan.

Thanks for the help
a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2009 7:08:49 PM

With the 300 watt power supply, no. That's why we suggested the 4670. The 4670 is probably the best low power consumption card that you can get. That's why I suggested that. Because if you are set on a 300 watt power supply, then it should, no guarantee but it should handle a 4670, however a 9600 gso or 4830 will almost certainly be too much power draw, and if the power supply were to go out, could take out the motherboard and other components as well.

Other guys may be able to comment better on this, but the 7750 kuma chip according to the specs should be a retail box, so should have a stock heatsink and fan.


On the mobo, Gigabyte is a good brand, I like their boards myself, the reason I suggested the other board was because of the HT speed. Notice that the board you chose shows 2000 HT speed, the other is 5200. The reason this is significant is because if you ever decide to upgrade to a phenom 2 chip like a 3 core or 4 core chip, the board I was showing you should be able to support those chips with no problem.

The other board may but I'm not sure about if it will reduce speed or anything on the system.

Anyone else better educated about this than me?
March 15, 2009 11:36:45 PM

ohiou_grad_06 said:
With the 300 watt power supply, no. That's why we suggested the 4670. The 4670 is probably the best low power consumption card that you can get. That's why I suggested that. Because if you are set on a 300 watt power supply, then it should, no guarantee but it should handle a 4670, however a 9600 gso or 4830 will almost certainly be too much power draw, and if the power supply were to go out, could take out the motherboard and other components as well.

Other guys may be able to comment better on this, but the 7750 kuma chip according to the specs should be a retail box, so should have a stock heatsink and fan.


On the mobo, Gigabyte is a good brand, I like their boards myself, the reason I suggested the other board was because of the HT speed. Notice that the board you chose shows 2000 HT speed, the other is 5200. The reason this is significant is because if you ever decide to upgrade to a phenom 2 chip like a 3 core or 4 core chip, the board I was showing you should be able to support those chips with no problem.

The other board may but I'm not sure about if it will reduce speed or anything on the system.

Anyone else better educated about this than me?


Thanks for the help man.

Does anyone know if the 7750 kuma chip come with a cooling system like a fan?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And do you think I should go with this 9500GT? Do you think this card can play crysis with some high settings with a small 9 inch moniter?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
a b U Graphics card
March 15, 2009 11:53:24 PM

Didnt check the link, but if it says box, then yes, the cpu comes with a HSF
a b U Graphics card
March 16, 2009 3:07:36 AM

You might be able to dude, but for the money, there is really no comparison between the 4670 and the 9500gt. The 4670 would blow away the 9500.
a c 359 U Graphics card
March 16, 2009 3:40:13 AM

The 9500GT is not a gaming video card. The 9600GT on the other hand is. However, neither the 4670 or the 9600GT will give you good frame rates in Crysis with high graphics quality.

The 9600GSO is slower than both 4670 and 9600GT. In fact it is really the old 8800GS sporting a new name.
March 16, 2009 11:07:11 AM

If you want the best for your your games, a good video card is needed. Also on the other hand the Power Supply Unit. If you what to be able to play Crysis on High setting. you're need a good video card and a atleast a 500+watts PSU. If I remember correctly, the Geforce 9600GSO requirer at least 400watts Mininum PSU. So either way you have to upgrade the PSU. 300watts might not cut it. I got a Geforce 9800gt and its mininum is 400watts but Nvidia recommand 500watts.
March 16, 2009 11:07:45 AM

If you want the best for your your games, a good video card is needed. Also on the other hand the Power Supply Unit. If you what to be able to play Crysis on High setting. you're need a good video card and a atleast a 500+watts PSU. If I remember correctly, the Geforce 9600GSO requirer at least 400watts Mininum PSU. So either way you have to upgrade the PSU. 300watts might not cut it. I got a Geforce 9800gt and its mininum is 400watts but Nvidia recommand 500watts.
a b U Graphics card
March 16, 2009 11:28:31 AM

jaguarskx said:
The 9500GT is not a gaming video card. The 9600GT on the other hand is. However, neither the 4670 or the 9600GT will give you good frame rates in Crysis with high graphics quality.

The 9600GSO is slower than both 4670 and 9600GT. In fact it is really the old 8800GS sporting a new name.

True, but really depends on resolution and if you turn on AA/AF. If you don't you can get decent fps.

Here are benches:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/ati-radeon-hd-4670-review...
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