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February 21, 2009 5:45:11 AM

This will be my first build and really just plan on playing some WOW and doing school work ( Microsoft office, internet) I haven't really decided on my operating system. Is it worth it to get Vista to use more Ram? Haven't decided on a case either. So here is the build:

Thermaltake Purepower 500W Power Supply $69.99

4GB DDR2 PC6400 DUAL CHANNEL KIT / KINGSTON $39.99

Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core Processor E5200 - BX80571E5200 - Box CPU - Socket LGA775 $74.00

Western Digital Caviar 320GB SATA Hard Drive - WD3200AAKS $59.99

EVGA 9600GT 512MB PCI-Express Video Card $119.99

MSI P45 Neo-F Intel Socket 775 Motherboard MS7519-010 $79.99

LG Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD?R $29.99

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Chris

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February 21, 2009 5:50:11 AM

Pass on that PSU... get something from Corsair, Silverstone, SeaSonic, etc...

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February 21, 2009 6:06:15 AM

About what wattage? 450 be plenty?
February 21, 2009 7:32:14 AM

That Kingston memory sucks...spend a few more dollars and go with this g.skill. 4 gigs is plenty, but make sure you go with the Vista 64bit so that it reads all 4 gigs...unlike 32 bit OS that only reads 3 gigs. The P35 mobo is outdated and phased out. This P45 is only a few dollars more, and it's twice the motherboard. The 9800 is a decent step up from the 9600 for only a few bucks more.. Thermaltake psu's were decent five years ago...but that was then. They are second rate these days not to mention they are under amped for their 12v rails. All in all this build down below is way better for your money. It's basically the same build you had....but improved. And for $7 the MX-2 thermal grease is a must buy.

Also if you decide to "crank up your system" you can easily bump up that cpu to 3.0Ghz @ 1066fsb (11.5 x 266) just by moving up your FSB in your bios. That memory will overclock also. It's a cheap no cost way of getting more out of your rig without having to add a aftermarket HS. That vid card also is a good overclocker.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $129.99 ($114.99 after $15.00 Mail-In Rebate)
EVGA 512-P3-N975-AR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $72.99 Free Shipping*
Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $98.99
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3L LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $45.99 Free Shipping*
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $74.99 ($59.99 after $15.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $54.99 Free Shipping*
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $24.99 Free Shipping*
LG Black 22X (CAV) DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X (CAV) DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM

Total $502.93
$467.93
w/ mail in rebates

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.99 Free Shipping*
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $6.99
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound - Retail
February 21, 2009 2:25:22 PM

Should i get the waranty on anything?
February 21, 2009 9:00:03 PM

IMO it's not worth the trouble to remove the paste already on the cooler to apply MX-2 for a degree or two difference.
February 21, 2009 9:04:23 PM

Why_Me said:
Thermaltake psu's were decent five years ago...but that was then. They are second rate these days not to mention they are under amped for their 12v rails.


Thermaltake Toughpowers are good PSUs.
February 22, 2009 1:19:57 PM

As for the ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound, I was also planning on removing the stock Intel paste and applying this. After some research, the difference in temps was 5-7 degrees on average. I think that is worth it. Have you tried it "theAnimal"?
February 22, 2009 4:12:32 PM

xsever said:
As for the ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound, I was also planning on removing the stock Intel paste and applying this. After some research, the difference in temps was 5-7 degrees on average. I think that is worth it. Have you tried it "theAnimal"?


No, I haven't tried it. I've never used the stock cooler. All the TIM comparisons I've seen usually only have a few degrees difference.
February 22, 2009 6:20:28 PM

theAnimal said:
No, I haven't tried it. I've never used the stock cooler. All the TIM comparisons I've seen usually only have a few degrees difference.



Check it here and look at the comparison between "Intel Cooler/Intel Compound" and "Intel Cooler/MX-2." 5 degrees difference on idle and 8 degrees difference on load. Remember this is a QX6700, so its thermal compound is not as cheap as the E7x00 series one. It is also 7$ only from newegg. 1$/degree C drop :D 
February 22, 2009 10:28:45 PM

But is it really necassary? I mean i don't push my systems very hard. My system i have now is just to slow to do anything on. I would like something that can play WOW on high settings, and then the basic online and microsoft office things, and still come in the low price range.

Would i even need a different cpu fan and different compound?



What is the cheapest GPU that would still play WOW on high settings? Good brand but doesn't have to play all the other games i do that on my XBox just fine.

A good brand motherboard to look at? IS there really anything that the MSI P45 Neo-F Intel Socket 775 Motherboard can't do that i would be asking it to do?

Is kingston memory really that bad? I know G Skill is better but for my situation will it really make a difference?

I think that is all my questions, I'm not looking for an overkill build for what i use it for. I'd like to keep the products as simple as possible.

Thank you everyone that has helped, and all new opinions always appreciated.
Chris
February 22, 2009 10:45:25 PM

NewToThis_09 said:
But is it really necassary? I mean i don't push my systems very hard. My system i have now is just to slow to do anything on. I would like something that can play WOW on high settings, and then the basic online and microsoft office things, and still come in the low price range.

Would i even need a different cpu fan and different compound?



What is the cheapest GPU that would still play WOW on high settings? Good brand but doesn't have to play all the other games i do that on my XBox just fine.

A good brand motherboard to look at? IS there really anything that the MSI P45 Neo-F Intel Socket 775 Motherboard can't do that i would be asking it to do?

Is kingston memory really that bad? I know G Skill is better but for my situation will it really make a difference?

I think that is all my questions, I'm not looking for an overkill build for what i use it for. I'd like to keep the products as simple as possible.

Thank you everyone that has helped, and all new opinions always appreciated.
Chris


Switch out this mobo down below with the one I had in my build on here and it brings the price down another $14 and replace the 9800 with this 4830. That brings the total price of that build to.... $467.93 not including shipping and mail in rebates and it's still a decent rig.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $84.99
GIGABYTE GA-EP43-UD3L LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $94.99 ($84.99 after $10.00 Mail-In Rebate)
MSI R4830-T2D512 OC Radeon HD 4830 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
February 22, 2009 11:56:21 PM

If you are going to play WOW only, then the stock heatsink/compound/fan are enough. No need for the extra stuff. Just make sure you have a good airflow in your case.
February 24, 2009 1:34:35 AM

IMO, I would go with the AMD 7750+ - it is working on the phenom architecture, and although the phenom architecture is significantly less in value in comparison to the c2q or even the c2d it will definitely out-perform the Intel Pentium Dual cores with a higher FSB (AMD - 1800mhz) Intel is 800mhz. Also the new AMD has an unlocked multiplier, is about $10 cheaper at newegg and will overclock easily to 3.3ghz or 3.5
February 24, 2009 1:42:42 AM

jlvitt said:
IMO, I would go with the AMD 7750+ - it is working on the phenom architecture, and although the phenom architecture is significantly less in value in comparison to the c2q or even the c2d it will definitely out-perform the Intel Pentium Dual cores with a higher FSB (AMD - 1800mhz) Intel is 800mhz. Also the new AMD has an unlocked multiplier, is about $10 cheaper at newegg and will overclock easily to 3.3ghz or 3.5



http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2008/12/22/athlon... <--- Oh contrair Monfraire :p 
February 24, 2009 2:37:24 AM

I shouldn't really have to overclock to play WOW correct.
February 24, 2009 2:40:33 AM

NewToThis_09 said:
I shouldn't really have to overclock to play WOW correct.


Nope, but with that E5200...only a few minutes spent in your bios to boost it up to 3.0Ghz @ 1066 FSB will make a world of difference and it cost nothing.
February 24, 2009 2:46:53 AM

Would i be able to stick with the stock fan if i did that?
February 24, 2009 2:48:23 AM

Also a decent cheap psu?
February 24, 2009 4:54:12 AM

3.5ghz can be done on stock voltage with an increase of the multiplier - stable. Tweaking could easily be in line with the performance of the intel chip.
February 24, 2009 4:10:09 PM

What's your point? Is it the fact that your building a computer for most likely a completly oppisite reason?
February 24, 2009 4:18:29 PM

@king_scruff

Yeah, you fail.
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