Rumour benchmarks of 4980

Extremely disappointing. I was thinking of a 11000 to 12000 performance point from it. I mean some OCed 4870 1gb could go to 9800 performance point.

http://www.ocheaven.com/news_view.asp?gid=6754

Iv seen OCed GTX260 run over 10k and a few 4870s

I mean I hoped for so much more

Nice but to be honest its not this card im interested in from a technical point of view. the one im looking forward to is the replacement for the 4830. Rumoured to have the performance of the 4830 or even the 4850 but like the 4670 not need any extra power. Now that sounds like one serious card if its true.

Mactronix

I guess it will be just below the performance of the 280, but we'll see. What will be really interesting is to see the performance of the 4890 X2. Now that card is definitely going to consume considerably more power than the GTX 295, so it's going to have to offer at least slightly better performance to justify being priced at the same level. We shall see soon I guess.

Im thinking, hold off as to the perf iof the 4890, as the new drivers will make a difference, and since only certain people will have both HW and SW, and itll happen soon, then we can maybe get a glimpse, otherwise, its best to wait
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=14616

Now youre getting it

So basically it competes above the GTX260, slightly below the GTX285 and nearly on par with the GTX280.

Not too bad

Without the drivers. Ill just point this out. When the very first 3DMarks appeared for the 4xxxseries, people werent that impressed. It wasnt until the right drivers appeared, and the realization that the 4xxx series was different from the 3xxx series as to how points in 3D related to real world, and the 4xxx needed less marks to actually do more. Anyways, just wait

then if it is the performance of 4890 is the same as GTX280 about

sms2.0score: 4890 : 6155 GTX285: 6709

sm3.0: 4890: 7509 GTX285: 7643

pretty close

Just going by your numbers jennyh, a quick approximation shows around 7200 with a 850 core, and its 7509, so its obviously more than just a speed bump

I'm sure it wont, not "far off" at least...
this card is obviously superior to the 1gb 4870, it'll get close to the gtx 280...
sweet thing is if they put a good price on it, it'll bring all the prices down, price
is supposed to be a little bit over the 1gb 4870, i think at $200-$230 this card would bring all nvidia prices down 280s at $250 without rebates and 285's at $280 , then i would be able to get a 285 ..
that's just what i think

Liquid what are you talking nonsense about now? They mean it's going to be far off the 280gtx in price not performance, duh!



Ok this first 3dmark 06 run of the 4890 scored...

16096 3DMarks

SM 2.0 Score 6155
SM 3.0 Score 7521
CPU Score 4836

As a comparison, my 4870 512mb at stock and a Q6600 overclocked to 3ghz scores

14277 3DMarks

SM 2.0 Score 5581
SM 3.0 Score 6578
CPU Score 4250

Judging by that, there has definitely been work done on the shaders that cannot be accounted for by clock speed alone.

Laffo

they are synthetics they mean nothing... i agree
however, changes must have been made for the score to change like that,
that's more than the occasional calculation error imo...

Original reference cooler. Fail.

These cards MIGHT be able to touch the GTX 285 with some heavy overclocking. But then you can just OC the GTX 285 and pull away again.

But given the price point for the 4890 (apparently just above the 4870), its an unlikely scenario. ATI would price it $100 more expensive ($280 give or take) if they knew it could match or beat the GTX 280/285 and still manage to sell alot.

Nvidia isnt taking a loss on every card they sell, thats absurd. Their chips are extremely large and expensive, but not that expensive. There was a thread up here awhile ago on this very topic, I think it turned up to be like $30 profit from each $400 GTX 280 sold or something like that.

Like I said, Synthetics won't tell us anything, and knowing ATI we should expect some decent gains, but ppl are expecting miracles.

Stop raising your hopes, lets all agree that its going to boost 5% only and be surprised when its 10% or 15%.

How crushed would u be if you expected 15 and got 5?

Couple of more days, till then I'm not arguing the ideas till something concrete comes out.

The reason I think this is BS, is because 1 280 GTX creamed a 4870 X2 in vantage, yet in real life its def not as strong or anywhere near the 4870 X2.

Jenny stop using speculation from sites and logical guess in a sentence that makes it look concrete. we don't know how much retailers will sell this card for, If this card turns out to be more than the 280, expect to see a price in increase. Remember suggested retail is 300$, that doesn't mean retailers actually will. The 280 GTX retailed 399$ a couple of months ago, and retailers still had them for 450-500$, yet on the BFG website you could grab them for retail.

Anyways

Can you please take that tiny little mind of yours and start reading posts? People make mistakes they don't repeat each other, you on the other hand do.

Thats exactly what I was looking to prove, THAT THE RESULTS ARE WORTH NOTHING, DO I HAVE TO USE THE WORD SKEW TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND AND HAVE MY WORDS IN CAPS?

3dmark VANTAGE when used with the NV 280 GTX and 4870 X2, the results were SKEWED, BECAUSE of PHYSX.

I WASN'T praising 280 GTX, I was point out that it def DID NOT represent the synthetics. THE 4870 X2 is STRONGER than the 280 GTX, yet LOSES in VANTAGE, thats why I DON'T trust VANTAGE.

My god, and for the records 3Dmark06 loved ATI cards for the reason you said, and loves CPU clock (like most synthetics). the 2900 XT was the strongest 3Dmark06 card, did that perform to your liking? NO

READ READ READ

There's your answer, so if thats all the same, what more can you expect? how much horse power. No1 here is denying that it won't be stronger than the 4870....how much can you expect?

oh and no offence, your logic failed you when it came to an already released card, what makes you think with this card with more SP, 100 mhz and overall slightly different behavious than just Oc or underclocked card, that you'll do well.

No1 is saying ur dumb, but I'm sorry your logic doesn't fit. You know you stuff (some), but not enough to make a decent guess.

If this was coming from users like TGGA, Jaydee and others I might see some meaning, but I read all your posts, and they are all fanboyism.

Thats my opinion, it might just be me.

Your an idiot, I'm sorry I have to say it.

Can some1 explain the ATI 2900 XT story to this scrub? because I'm done with this hardcore dramaqueen/fanboy.

Good day.

P.S

Here's an example, I'm sorry I don't do that 3Dmark sh!T, when I use to be stupid, I compared my 2900 XT 3Dmark06 scores with my 9800 GX2 scores, which was 1 year later, you want to know the score?

18,000 for the 2900 XT, and 14,000 for the 9800 GX2

Bye

*sits back and grabs a bucket of popcorn*

Ooh, I wonder whats going to happen next.


Back to the topic of the 4890......
This card was obviously made to "fill the gap" between the GTX 260 and the GTX 285. It will sit right in between and rake up the cash. Those who want more performance than the 4870 and GTX 260 will go with the 4890 (unless Nvidia comes out with the GTX 275). It wont compete with the GTX 285, its not meant to. Also, this test was done on a reference 4890, there is no telling how good a Sapphire (or other manufacturer) 4890 will do, or even how much overclocking potential this thing has.

Also, 3dmark06 scores are more pointless than Vantage scores. Tech has changed so much since then and the scores are now so high in 3dmark06 that its impossible to judge ANYTHING based on a number that is in the tens of thousands. How are you suposted to make any clear answer from a score of 36712 vs 35917?

I think you are getting a bit confused spatholan. Check the top Vantage scores against the '06 scores and you'll see what i mean.

Oh yeah, and sorry to have to bring this back up again, but what if they make a 4890X2? Where will its performance lie?

Childish, good job

Make sure your education takes you places

Every1 Vantage means nothing, but 3dmark06 means something GO FORTH AND SPREAD THE WORD!!!!!!!