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February 24, 2009 4:01:49 AM

Like the topic says first time building my own PC, right now i have only about 700-800 to work with.

I guess im lookin for a machine with some power and longevity on a budget(potential to upgrade), i was thinking a decent dual core 3.0 wolfdale(sp) , 4gigs of ram. thats what i could come up with on my own, now as far as the motherboard im not sure, i know ddr3 is out and soon will be getting cheaper so i really want a mobo that is ddr2/3 compatible also i wasnt sure if having the option to use 2 video cards in the future was worth the money now, or jus get a new mobo when the time came for me to use 2 cards b/c i mainly play warhammer, and i dont think it requires 2 cards, b/c mobos with two x16 slots are pretty expensive, and the other option would be to snag a mid ranged x16/x8 sli/xfire mobo.


And for video card im not sure what way to go, i know nvidia just came out with a few new versions of 260/280 gtx, and im not sure how it compares to ATI i really dont wanna make the decision blindly as this is a big part on how the PC performs.

I could use any advice on the PSU i would need to run a machine like this, advice on a case since ill be completely building this new, and as for the ram i really need to find a mobo i want to buy first so advice on that would be much appreciated too.



jus wanna say thanks in advanced to any advice anyone can offer, if maybe somone has built a machine on a budget already that would like to share, or if somone has a wishlist up on newegg im on there also.


Btw im not at all against AMD, im just more familiar with intel atm.


Mobo : ?
CPU : wolfdale 3.0 dual core
RAM : ?
GFX : ?
PSU : ?

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February 24, 2009 4:26:31 AM

i like that list, i just question the video card is that gonna kick out enough power? im only playing warhammer but in city seiges theres close to 200-300 ppl in the zones on my server, thats why i was kinda thinkin i needed something along the lines of a newer nvidia/ati, and would cost me around 250-300


im minusing 100$ from that list towards the card b/c i have a copy of windows to use, i should have stated that.

thanks for the speedy reply
February 24, 2009 4:28:50 AM

nikclev said:
Check out the system builder marathon $635 pc, it's a good starting point I think: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclock-e5200-rad...


This is a good start for a build. With your budget, I would replace the e5200 w/ the e8500. That leaves a little wiggle room for a better case of your choice.
February 24, 2009 4:29:57 AM

nikclev said:
Check out the system builder marathon $635 pc, it's a good starting point I think: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclock-e5200-rad...



Yeah i saw that, how does that CPU compare to the one i was thinkin of buying, jus about double the price, i wanna make sure i can put out enough power so i dont lag in warhammer while im out buyin a PC.
February 24, 2009 4:32:25 AM

Well at that resolution, I don't think you would really have too much of a problem, but if you wanted to go bigger on the card, then look at these and see if they fit in your budget:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Unfortunately you would need to get a different PSU for that second card. Take a look at this one ($30 more after MIR):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or this one which could handle two of those 4870's in xfire:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
February 24, 2009 4:32:51 AM

aford10 said:
This is a good start for a build. With your budget, I would replace the e5200 w/ the e8500. That leaves a little wiggle room for a better case of your choice.



How do you rate that video card, compared to ones that go for 50-100$ more?

the new 260/280 gtx and the new ATI the reason i bring it up is if the performance is major gaming wise i would rather skimp in other areas like a case and spend more on the card (50-100$)
February 24, 2009 4:37:15 AM

Yeah i guess my whole thing for the video cards is im not sure how they stack up performance wise, i really only know whats new, so when i see a video card for 180$ or one for 240$ i can only assume the one for 240$ is clearly better, so i think im looking for a good performance card in the range of 200-300. i just cant figure out through all the number combinations and letters and prices what actually matters in a video card performance wise.
February 24, 2009 4:42:29 AM

The gtx280 is a better gaming card than the 4870 IMO. However, it's also much more expensive. I don't believe it's worth the extra cost, as the 4870 will play all games that I know of today on high settings.

The case is the easiest to skimp on. I agree completely with you. However, if you don't get proper airflow, you can burn up your system.
February 24, 2009 4:43:02 AM

Going with those more expensive cards means you have to spend more on other components, not less. the more expensive cards are bigger, so they need a larger case, and use more power so need a better PSU. You could go with a cheaper mobo that will not allow xfire, but that limits upgrades in the future. I always like to have some room for expansion when going with a fresh build, not something that is maxxed out to begin with.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
February 24, 2009 4:45:25 AM

xthekidx said:
Well at that resolution, I don't think you would really have too much of a problem, but if you wanted to go bigger on the card, then look at these and see if they fit in your budget:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Unfortunately you would need to get a different PSU for that second card. Take a look at this one ($30 more after MIR):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or this one which could handle two of those 4870's in xfire:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...




Thats what im not sure about either, im gonna go big on a card even if i have to wait a week or two, so i guess im gonna spend about 300 on a card.

So now would it be better to get 1 single card, or run 2 4850s like you linked (or another variation of cards)
February 24, 2009 4:52:19 AM

xthekidx said:
Going with those more expensive cards means you have to spend more on other components, not less. the more expensive cards are bigger, so they need a larger case, and use more power so need a better PSU. You could go with a cheaper mobo that will not allow xfire, but that limits upgrades in the future. I always like to have some room for expansion when going with a fresh build, not something that is maxxed out to begin with.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



If i wanted to run sli/xfire what mobo would i end up buying one that can run both slots at x16? or one that can run it at x16/x8 those are alot cheaper, but idk how they pan out performance wise.
February 24, 2009 5:26:04 AM

Asleepdan said:
If i wanted to run sli/xfire what mobo would i end up buying one that can run both slots at x16? or one that can run it at x16/x8 those are alot cheaper, but idk how they pan out performance wise.

Having both slots at x16 isn't that important since the slave card (running x8 mode) won't have its full potential used anyways, the difference is like 1%, and not worth the price of going with a mobo that offers 2 x16 slots.
February 24, 2009 5:26:04 AM

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February 24, 2009 5:27:42 AM

So I'm sensing that there is a bit of flexablilty in this budget...you seem to be willing to break the $800 mark. How much can you actually spend, even if it takes you a week or two to save it up?
February 24, 2009 5:29:31 AM

I would build around this:

E5200
Sapphire 4870 1GB Toxic Edition
Gigabyte EP45-DS3L
G.Skill Pi Black DDR2-800
Xigmatek HDT-S1283
February 24, 2009 5:58:09 AM

For this price range and other things you're looking at I cant help but suggest the new 720 X3 BE.

It's cheaper than the 8500, over clocks like a beast and has the advantage of the extra core.
February 24, 2009 6:17:33 AM

bonanzaguy said:
For this price range and other things you're looking at I cant help but suggest the new 720 X3 BE.

It's cheaper than the 8500, over clocks like a beast and has the advantage of the extra core.

Right. For gaming, which generally doesn't need a third core... :pfff: 
February 24, 2009 6:33:04 AM

+1

Stick with Core 2 duos for gaming. That E8400 will be fine.
February 24, 2009 11:49:15 AM

Akebono 98 said:
I would build around this:

E5200
Sapphire 4870 1GB Toxic Edition
Gigabyte EP45-DS3L
G.Skill Pi Black DDR2-800
Xigmatek HDT-S1283

+1. Should be about $500-550. Up the board to a P45-UD3P or P45-DS3R and the CPU to E8400/E8500 and that should put OP in the $650-750. Don't forget a good PSU. I recommend 650TX, PC Power & Cooling 610 or Corsair 750TX or PC Power & Cooling 750. PSU depends on if OP is going to CrossFire/SLI or not.
February 24, 2009 7:45:21 PM

Jus wanna say thanks to everyone for the responses im pretty close to ordering the rig.

One thing i jus wanna get clear is whats better to run, 2 4870s(1gb) wich would run me about the same $$ as a 280x/260x, what would perform better 2 cards or 1 mega card.


I jus want the best performance, so if 2 4870s would run better than 1 280x/260x
I would much rather buy 1 4870 for now and in 2 weeks get another.

I really dont wanna spend 400-500 on a card id say 350 would be my limit, and this is why i bring up the 2 cards over 1 because it will cost about the same i just dont know performance numbers etc.

Also if there is a better card for xfire than the 4870s, im open to other options, im jus going off what i know and what people have posted on this thread video card wise.


Also how big of a PSU am i looking at if i want to xfire 2 (1gb) 4870s
OR
1 280x/260x

*EDIT*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I took this from a reply above, and im assuming this PSU would still be able to run 2 of the 4870s if they are 1GB instead of 512.

*EDIT*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This psu was combo'd with http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

But i am assuming 500w is not enough for Xfire, even though it says xfire compatible. since most PSU that have been linked are over 600W easily.







where can i find the toxic edition?
I havent seen it on newegg.


*EDIT*
This is what i have put together, video card i kinda just picked one based on reviews, since i dont really understand what makes one better than another, since the price differance on alot of the ones were 10-15-20$. (i searched 200-300$ range ATI /1 GB)

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.as...


What are the opinions on RAM for gaming? I had in my mind 4gigs would be good enough for WaRhammer online, since its cheap how much would it effect performance if i went to 8 gigs.
February 24, 2009 7:49:09 PM

xthekidx said:
So I'm sensing that there is a bit of flexablilty in this budget...you seem to be willing to break the $800 mark. How much can you actually spend, even if it takes you a week or two to save it up?



See my post above this one

The only thing i really am willing to hold on or break my budget with is the video card/s
I explain why in the above post in more detail.


February 24, 2009 7:58:07 PM

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February 24, 2009 8:55:32 PM

The 4870's in xfire are top of the food chain at the moment. They will beat a single 285. If that is the direction you are looking to go, I would really recommend getting a better case. It only has 1 120mm rear fan.

For the psu, this would be a good one for xfire
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
February 24, 2009 9:37:49 PM

The Red 750w PC P&C will be fine for xfire of 2 4870's.

I would advise you to get a bigger case than that rosewill. You will have difficulty fitting two large video cards in it. On top of that, it has very poor cooling and the 4870's get pretty hot. You will also be limited on CPU coolers because that case is not very wide. Look at the antec 300, its about $20 more and will probably fit 2 4870's in xfire if you only have 1 or 2 HDD's. $63 shipped
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
If you can find a little more money, then I highly advise you get the CM 690 case for good airflow and lots of room, $77 shipped.
http://www.provantage.com/cooler-master-rc-690-kkn1-gp~...
February 24, 2009 9:39:50 PM

aford10 said:
The 4870's in xfire are top of the food chain at the moment. They will beat a single 285. If that is the direction you are looking to go, I would really recommend getting a better case. It only has 1 120mm rear fan.

For the psu, this would be a good one for xfire
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Ok thanks for the answer, im jus really confused now having talked to alot of people ive been hearing alot of opinions, someone told me that xfire/sli isnt worth it, and i should just get 1 single monster card, also i was told that windows XP is not able to go over 4 gigs of ram is this true?

I jus really want a clean clear answer, since this is what is really holding me back from being able to order.

Performance wise what is better (i only game, and its mostly MMO's)

2 cards xfire/sli'd Or 1 of the varients of a 280x / 285x
February 24, 2009 9:49:16 PM

Go for xfire 4870's, it will give you more performance than one of those Nvidia cards.

However MMO's don't have huge graphics requirements, and you probably don't need dual 4870's unless you game at 1920x1200 or larger resolution, and you could just use one of those Nvidia GPU's. If you went with that route, then you could go with a cheaper mobo that wasn't for xfire and save some money, like this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
February 24, 2009 9:53:28 PM

I guess im gonna go with a single card, i only have opinions to base this on but im hearing 2 cards wont get me that much more performance rather than if i jus got 1 285Gtx.

So i guess now im looking for a card in the 300-350 range, ATI or Nvidia i jus want the best performance.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

How do these cards pare up against a 285x since these are a good 100$ cheaper, and seem to be a very popular Card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this card caught my eye b/c os the 2gigs of ram on it

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

then this card had a really interesting review -- > ( On most games, this devistates the GTX280/285, even getting a 40-50% increase. In alot of benches, this performs almost identical to the 4870X2 )

Also how am i able to tell if my version of windows XP is able to run more than 4gigs of ram.

the reason i am stressing the video card so much is b/c alot of people i game with in warhammer are running similar machines to what im building, using a 260x and they say they still get laggy at times, im trying to make sure i have as little lag as possible and vid card seems like its what matters the most.
February 24, 2009 10:08:36 PM

ATI doesn't make a card in that range. I would just get two of those HIS 4870's that I linked in xfire, it will be better than the GTX 285 and cheaper and you won't have problems with framerates, I promise.

Your OS needs to be a 64bit OS. XP is mostly 32bit, some 64bit versions were circulated, but most likely its 32bit. Look under "system" in your control panel, I believe it tells you...although I haven't used XP for a while so I'm not sure.
February 24, 2009 10:27:22 PM

xthekidx said:
ATI doesn't make a card in that range. I would just get two of those HIS 4870's that I linked in xfire, it will be better than the GTX 285 and cheaper and you won't have problems with framerates, I promise.

Your OS needs to be a 64bit OS. XP is mostly 32bit, some 64bit versions were circulated, but most likely its 32bit. Look under "system" in your control panel, I believe it tells you...although I haven't used XP for a while so I'm not sure.



Where was the toxic version you were talking about.

and i guess if i am going to choose crossfire i would get 1 of these right now http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and get a second one in a month or so, the price differance is 20$ idk how that seperates them performance wise, i picked those over the the 512mbs, just to be safe i would be really burned if i bought all this and it ended up being pretty choppy due to video cards, all though i know for a fact you know more than me, just being safe i dont want it to bite me in the ass, (i kno these will cost slightly more than a 285x in the end ) but i dont plan on buying both right away.

i went into control panel / performance and clicked on system it didnt say weather or not it was 64bit or 32, im gonna assume its 32 since the version is dated 2002
February 24, 2009 10:34:41 PM

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February 24, 2009 10:37:05 PM

Yeah its going to be 32-bit. The Saphire Toxic is that second card you just linked^^ its called SAPPHIRE 100243-1GTXSR Radeon HD 4870 1GB at newegg.

The difference comes from the cooling solutions and clock speeds. The Toxic has a light overclock of the GPU and memory, as well as better heatsink for transfering heat away from the GPU. The Saphire card also has rear exhaust, meaning it pushes the hot air of the GPU out the back of your PC, that other card just dissipates it into your case, which makes your other components not cool as well. The Toxic is a far better deal of those two you linked. However if you went with those two HIS cards I chose, they have rear exhaust and two of them together would give you 1GB of memory, which will be plenty for you, and come out to much less, ~$330 (less than GTX 285 and better performance) as opposed to ~$460
HIS card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
February 24, 2009 10:41:15 PM

i guess i just need to figure out if the extra 100$ in the end to buy 2

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


is going to give me a much better performance boost compared to me using one 285x

I guess another choice i have is to get one 285x/260x right now and in a few months get another, if i feel the performance is lacking, rather than put all my money into crossfire/sli right away.

I guess that is my final question, other than finding out 100% if my xp version is 64bit.
February 24, 2009 10:50:07 PM

xthekidx said:
Yeah its going to be 32-bit. The Saphire Toxic is that second card you just linked^^ its called SAPPHIRE 100243-1GTXSR Radeon HD 4870 1GB at newegg.

The difference comes from the cooling solutions and clock speeds. The Toxic has a light overclock of the GPU and memory, as well as better heatsink for transfering heat away from the GPU. The Saphire card also has rear exhaust, meaning it pushes the hot air of the GPU out the back of your PC, that other card just dissipates it into your case, which makes your other components not cool as well. The Toxic is a far better deal of those two you linked. However if you went with those two HIS cards I chose, they have rear exhaust and two of them together would give you 1GB of memory, which will be plenty for you, and come out to much less, ~$330 as opposed to ~$460
HIS card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Ok thanks for clearing up those 2 cards for me.

i wish i knew someone running 2 of those HIS cards you recommended would really like to see how they do performance wise on the newer games, im jus really trying to make the best overall decision while keeping the budget in mind.

I have a few options

1) buy a 285gtx and see how it does alone and if i need to sli i can
2) buy one of the newer 260x that are already OC'd etc, and see how that works SLI if i need to.
3) put all my eggs in one basket and buy 2 HIS cards and go straight for xfire
4)buy 1 of the Toxic edition cards, and in a few weeks buy a second for xfire.



the 260x runs about 60$-70$ less than a 285x
What really confuses me is that the ATI cards are alot cheaper and have 1GB of ram even when compared to a 260gtx even the 285x only has 1GB of ram on the card and is leaps and bounds more expensive than the toxic card you showed me.

really havin a hard time deciding what is best.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 285gtx
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... toxic
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... high priced 260x
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Oc'd 260x mid price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... cheap 260x (orig price 250$)

How do those cards compare to the toxic edition 1gb card, performance wise since the ATI is so much cheaper, im only assuming it dosent run as effecient as the 260/285 nvidia cards in general.
February 24, 2009 10:58:41 PM

The Processor on the card is more deterministic of price than the amount of memory the card has. Memory helps the card, but the GPU in the card is the real important factor. Nvidia's GT200 processor is currently the best GPU out there, and so the GTX 2xx series cards come with that price premium. In benchmarks, the GTX 260+ and HD 4870 1gb are about equal in performance (the 512mb card is not far behind), they trade off depending on the game. The Toxic saphire will probably be a little better than the GTX 260+, but very close.

What size of monitor do you play on?
February 24, 2009 11:02:00 PM

I am using a 21inch syncmaster, nothing fancy or expensive, so i realize i probably wont get the full potential out of a 285x, i jus want warhammer to run as smoothe as possible when there is a good 200-300 people running around :( 


See that is what i dont understand, if the GPU in the nvidia cards is clearly better, how can something alot cheaper compete, that isnt running a chip set as good.
February 24, 2009 11:03:25 PM

And to clear something up: You cannot SLI on that mobo that you have picked. SLI mobo's are much more expensive than xfire. If you go with an nvidia card, you can only use that one Nvidia card. If you go with a ATI card, then you can add another one later. This is why I say go with the ATI HD 4870's.

Once again; YOU CANNOT SLI ON THE P45 MOBO THAT YOU HAVE CHOSEN FOR YOUR BUILD, ONLY XFIRE.
February 24, 2009 11:06:15 PM

Asleepdan said:
I am using a 21inch syncmaster, nothing fancy or expensive, so i realize i probably wont get the full potential out of a 285x, i jus want warhammer to run as smoothe as possible when there is a good 200-300 people running around :( 


See that is what i dont understand, if the GPU in the nvidia cards is clearly better, how can something alot cheaper compete, that isnt running a chip set as good.

It can compete because its cheaper and doesn't cost as much, so people settle for the less expensive cards. Less expensive cards give you a better price/performance ratio than the high performance cards do. The relationship between price and performance of GPU's is not linear.

You won't have a problem if you go with those two HIS cards that I showed you on that monitor, it will be overkill. I would say the 1gb toxic would be enough.
February 24, 2009 11:18:39 PM

xthekidx said:
It can compete because its cheaper and doesn't cost as much, so people settle for the less expensive cards. Less expensive cards give you a better price/performance ratio than the high performance cards do. The relationship between price and performance of GPU's is not linear.

You won't have a problem if you go with those two HIS cards that I showed you on that monitor, it will be overkill. I would say the 1gb toxic would be enough.



thanks alot for takin the time to clear that up for me, i was always assuming the highest price card gave a real real big noticable differance when put to the test against something 50-60$ cheaper.

like you said it is based on price/performance ratio i was always under the impression that the higher the price the performance would be better 10 fold.

is there a website that i could find out performance tests between the 1gb toxic / 285x

I am interested in seeing the performance differance vs the price differance of around 130$

and i did not know that i would need a different mobo if i wanted to run SLI, i really didnt see anything seperating certain mobos from crossfire/SLI unless i totally missed it b/c i wasnt expecting there to be a differance.

I have a 1080p full HDTV, would it make a differance if i hooked the PC up to that instead?
February 24, 2009 11:59:20 PM

I looked up some boards that support SLI and they dont really go over 150, neither of them go over 8gb of ram either, but im using an old win xp so thats not a problem right now.

unless im looking at the wrong ones but they all had 2 pcie slots.

cause the way i look at it, if i end up needing a second card its gonna take 2-3 weeks, either way on a 285x or another toxic. maybe 1 extra week for a 285.

so i guess im comparing those 2 cards right now in the price/performance debate of about 130$ at the start and eventually another 285x so 260$ all together.
February 25, 2009 12:14:37 AM

these are a few i was looking at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

that one i cant tell if both slots are x16 or not it dosent specify neither do the reviews, im assuming its x16/x8 cause its cheap


This one seems really solid one of the higher priced. Still not sure if both slots are x16 dosent say.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


and this one is more of a mid ranged price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


What do you think of those if i was going nvidia.


On a site i just found it listed the 285x as the #1 card the 4870 as 3rd, with a price differance of 130$ but it didnt really show me any kind of performance test.
February 25, 2009 12:21:53 AM

I think your going backwards. That's not a real great chipset IMO. I think you'd be much better off going 4870 x 2 as xthekidx said.

If you were bent on SLI, the evga is probably the better of the boards for what you are looking at. Yes, it has 2 x16 slots.
February 25, 2009 12:27:28 AM

Not really bent jus really trying to look into it and find out how much performance differance there is between the 2 for a 130$ save, i cant find any sites yet that have shown me anything other than a ranking list, 285x 1st, 4870 3rd 130$ differance.
February 25, 2009 1:22:53 AM

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.as...

i think i feel comfortable ordering that build. thoughts?

*EDIT*
i just noticed this on the mobo

-Memory Standard DDR2 1333-

It dosent match the same as the RAM is that going to cause a problem?

I searched newegg for that type of ram but it says only ddr3.

What are some opinions on the i7 and gaming? whats that transition like from dual core to i7 in the terms of a gamer, and performance.


February 25, 2009 1:47:32 AM

I should have clarified early when I said that SLI chipsets are more expensive, I meant that the ones that were worth buying. Only x58 offers stable and reliable platform for SLI. The 7 series boards are all flaky and have lots of problems, and not worth the price. To get a stable SLI configuration, you need to spend $250.

That build you have began to spec out looks good so far, but you are not finished. You need to get a good CPU cooler for your CPU and overclock it to get maximum performance out of your system. I suggest this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
with this backplate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Then you need a good HDD, like this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And a media drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I like this ram much better, consider it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
February 25, 2009 1:52:31 AM

xthekidx said:
I should have clarified early when I said that SLI chipsets are more expensive, I meant that the ones that were worth buying. Only x58 offers stable and reliable platform for SLI. The 7 series boards are all flaky and have lots of problems, and not worth the price. To get a stable SLI configuration, you need to spend $250.

That build you have began to spec out looks good so far, but you are not finished. You need to get a good CPU cooler for your CPU and overclock it to get maximum performance out of your system. I suggest this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
with this backplate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Then you need a good HDD, like this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And a media drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I like this ram much better, consider it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Thanks alot you have been very helpful in making this build with me.

I jus wanna get your thoughts o the i7 for gaming, ive jus realized its about 120$ more than the dual core wich would bring me into the 900$ range, ive always have been told that as of now alot of games dont even use quad core, and that dual core is still good for gaming, but how does it compare to the i7
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