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It doesn't work at stock speed (1066). This jump out at anybody? It passed memory test and runs like a charm at 800mhz but if i can't even get it to run stock, i'm not so confident its going to overclock later you know what I mean?

Heres the parts:

Name Core 2 Quad Q8400
Operating Frequency 2.66GHz
FSB 1333MHz
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Model GA-EP45-UD3P
CPU Socket Type LGA 775
FSB 1600/1333/1066/800 MHz
Memory Standard DDR2 1366+/1066/800/667
Maximum Memory Supported 16GB
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Brand G.SKILL
Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK
Type 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM
Tech Spec
Capacity 4GB (2 x 2GB)
Speed DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
Cas Latency 5
Timing 5-5-5-15
Voltage 2.0V - 2.1V

Here's the settings, exactly as they should be set according to everything i've read in the last 3 days and the G Skill administrators (telling other people w/same gear in gskill forum) recommended settings.

FSB: 333x8
Performance Enhance: Standard
XMP: Disabled
MCH Freq Latch: Auto

System Memory Multiplier: 3.20B (1066)
5-5-5-15
Command rate 2
TRFC 68
MCH Core 1.28v
MCH/DRAM Reference 1.16v

DRAM 2.1v
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Only runs stable at 1.84 volts and 800mhz 2.40B


Message edited by ErwinNH on 08-04-2009 at 03:48:27 AM
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What are the SPD tables (you can use CPU-Z to view them)? Why did you disable XMP if you want to overclock the memory to 1066 MHz? Using the XMP profile should make it a lot easier.

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not overclocking. memory stock speed is 1066.

However, i've been brainstorming on this... is it possible to have compatible memory that can't run at its stock speed unless the FSB is overclocked to catch up? Eg. my fsb is 333, my (stable) RAM speed is 400mhz(x2=800). When I put my ram speed to 533 that creates a difference of 333 : 533 - could this cause my BSOD? Ratio too far off? I'm a noob so, some things I haven't learned yet.


Message edited by ErwinNH on 08-03-2009 at 07:38:13 PM
Reply to ErwinNH

1066 MHz DDR2 memory usually is DDR2 800 MHz that should run when overclocked to 1066 MHz. Post the SPD tables and tell us if your modules have an XMP profile. If they do, then set the voltage required by XMP, enable the XMP profile and leave the rest on Auto. That should work. I know that motherboard works very well with 8 GB of memory at 4-4-4-12 timings and 1.9V using G.Skill PI Black.

Reply to GhislainG
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Ahhh i think i see what you're talking about. See these are the things I wanted to learn by building this system. Glad I did it. Here are the tables. Correct me if i'm wrong, shouldn't memory SAY that it's 800 standard 1066 OC if that's what it is?

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/360/cpuz1d.jpg

Reply to ErwinNH
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There is no such thing as stock 1066Mhz, all DDR2-8500 is 800Mhz Ram designed to run at higher speeds with voltage and timing increases. If you want to run your Ram @ 1066Mhz you have to change your timings and up the voltage to 2.1v (use the SPD tab as reference when you change your timings).

Don't forget to raise your frequency from 400Mhz to 533Mhz if you want to run them @ 1066Mhz


Message edited by OvrClkr on 08-04-2009 at 12:54:34 AM
------------------------------ 550 @ 4.0 Ghz 1.425v
BFG GTX 260 (216)
4GB G.Skill @ 940MHz
Thermaltake TP 850w
Reply to OvrClkr

Try testing it at the 1066mhz speeds with only one stick at a time. It's possible one stick is faulty and can't run at 1066mhz.

Reply to orangegator

Since the modules have an EPP profile, enable it or make sure that tRC is set to 48 and command rate is set to 2T.

Reply to GhislainG
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Aight here's an update: it still wont' accept any of these suggestions, and I tried the first jump on Gigabyte's Easy Tune 6 and I could noooot get it to post for 20 mins after that. Sooo... I dunno what I'm gonna do but this thing is kicking my butt.

Reply to ErwinNH

As you can see in the SPD tab, your modules are DDR2-800. If they run at 800 MHz, 4-4-4-12 timings and 1.9V, then they'll be almost as fast as DDR2-1066 with looser timings.

Reply to GhislainG
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I run my G.Skills (PC2 6400) @ 4-4-4-12-24-2T / 1.9v and they are faster than my OCZ (PC2 8500) Platinums 1066Mhz @ 5-5-5-15-26-2T / 2.2v ......That has a lot to say about 1066Mhz modules.....


Message edited by OvrClkr on 08-04-2009 at 02:13:05 AM
------------------------------ 550 @ 4.0 Ghz 1.425v
BFG GTX 260 (216)
4GB G.Skill @ 940MHz
Thermaltake TP 850w
Reply to OvrClkr

I also run 8 GB of G.Skill PI Black at those settings on my GA-EP45-UD3P and it's stable. I'm fairly sure that Erwin's modules would also work at those timings and voltage.

Reply to GhislainG
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Thanks for the input guys I really appreciate it. So now let me ask you this: you're running 800mhz before overclock? Or total? Because if I want to OC this in the future (which could be a while and a few lessons later since I apparently have NO idea how to do it) I'd like to know that the parts I have will work. Only important parts not listed up top is my 2 x XfX HD 4870's and my PSU is a Corsair TX650W.


Message edited by ErwinNH on 08-04-2009 at 03:45:54 AM
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Start off @ 800Mhz and go from there.... You are new to this and you have a lot to learn... Once you have a stable system, let us know what exactly you are looking for and we will show you what to do....

------------------------------ 550 @ 4.0 Ghz 1.425v
BFG GTX 260 (216)
4GB G.Skill @ 940MHz
Thermaltake TP 850w
Reply to OvrClkr
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It's stable at 800mhz. That isn't a problem. I've been playing some games on it, watching temps, benchmarking, etc. I just assumed earlier that cpu should run at stock speed and RAM should run at labeled speed. But I was n00b =\

Oh and speaking of temps I want my GPU fans (HD 4870s) to run faster than their default minimum which maintains ~61C. I don't like that. I think its too hot. But then if i manually override with catalyst, it will go that speed and only that speed. What overrides catalyst fan speed and does it well?


Message edited by ErwinNH on 08-04-2009 at 05:41:00 AM
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Yea, that's what it was designed to do.. You raise the fan speed when you game to lower temps, and then you lower the fan speed when you are not doing anything related to the GPU. Ex: surfing, downloading, creating cd-dvd's, etc.....

I use Ntune which is similar to catalyst but made for Nvidia GPU's...

------------------------------ 550 @ 4.0 Ghz 1.425v
BFG GTX 260 (216)
4GB G.Skill @ 940MHz
Thermaltake TP 850w
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