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i bought EVGA geforce GTS 250 few days back. Default speeds are 756Mhz core, 1836Mhz shader and 1100MHZ...Card idles at 36C and around 60C during games. But its made on 65nm, which makes me think it just a reflashed 9800GTX not even 9800GTX+ which were on 55nm. i didn't expect this from EVGA.


what do you guys say advantages would have be of 55nm. maybe it might have overlclocked good if it was on 55nm. Temperature wise might have been bit cooler but what i'm getting now i think it's pretty good as my old 8800GTS 320 use to idle at 56C


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Are you saying it is based on 65nm because of GPUz? I ask because GPUz doesn't detect 55nm correctly on the GTX 260s either. I'm pretty sure all GTS 250s are 55nm.

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Reply to scrumhalf

scrumhalf wrote :

Are you saying it is based on 65nm because of GPUz? I ask because GPUz doesn't detect 55nm correctly on the GTX 260s either. I'm pretty sure all GTS 250s are 55nm.



yeah based on GPUZ...hmm thats interesting to hear man. Any program you know that will detect right info. even i was wondering to how they were able to clock it to 756Mhz core on 65mn. as i was even able to overclock it to 780mhz without problem.


Message edited by hangman2004 on 03-20-2009 at 10:55:13 PM
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Reply to hangman2004

i have a gts 250 and it idles at 60, and gets to about 74 in game, im sure yours is 55nm cuz of the low idle temp, but it looks like mine is 65nm :( which sucks cuz i was hoping to oc it, but it could be the cooling cuz i set the fan speed from 35% to 85% and it only dropped 2C or 3C

Reply to kb8618

kb8618 wrote :

i have a gts 250 and it idles at 60, and gets to about 74 in game, im sure yours is 55nm cuz of the low idle temp, but it looks like mine is 65nm :( which sucks cuz i was hoping to oc it, but it could be the cooling cuz i set the fan speed from 35% to 85% and it only dropped 2C or 3C



man that looks likes a cooling issue. even my old 8800GTS 320 use to idle at 55C and 65 to 67C in games. hope you have good cooling in case. i found out if it has single power connector then it is 55NM

Reply to hangman2004

yeah i have lots of cooling in my case 120mm front intake, 80mm side intake and 2 80mm exhausts plus the psu and vid card exhausts, i have noticed that my new corsair 650w psu is blowing out warmer air and raised the temp inside the case a lil, my old ultra x-finity 500w even before i upgraded form a 7600gs to the gts 250 blew out cool air. I think ill take it out and check if its a 65 or 55 but that's what i thought 1 connector = 55nm

 

btw: i have the XFX GS250XYDFC gts 250, and my mobo is ga-m57sli-s4

 

edit: Apparently this is a common issue with my motherboard, with the southbridge heatsink being directly under the vid card and them using super cheap compound. i ment to order a heatsink for it with my gts 250 but forgot untill just after i finalized my order :( so ill order the rest today and see if that fixes it, ill order the EnzoTech SLF-1, and since im paying shipping again i might as well get a mosfet heatsink and some thermaltake A2482 12mm 17dp 50cfm fans, they push less air but should be way quieter then my 33db 90cfm aerocool extreme turbine, and they are also thinner


Message edited by kb8618 on 03-26-2009 at 06:06:33 PM
Reply to kb8618

hi mate
checking out your comment on your gts250,well i have recently purchased the xfx gts250(512mb) and i am extremely impressed by the card however i have a few questions i would like to ask you
1. why are nvidia cards idle and load temps far higher to radeon cards,i mean the gts260 is 60 degrees idle and between 67 and 77 degrees load
2. what psu are you currently using,i have gone with my old faithful hiper 425watt psu,may be slightly low on the wattage however you get what it says on the box,unlike some other psu,s,some give false ratings for example i purchased a 750watt psu from win-power(bad mistake) which blew after around 20 hours of use
thanks again mate

Reply to brianthesnail

i cant understand why everyone is having trouble with the gts 250 and overclocking. i have the EVGA 1gb gts 250 (standard) and have over clocked it quite a bit i think ( i dont know its my first good computer)

core clock - 756 to 829
shader clock - 1836 to 2032
memory clock - 1100 - 1322

ive had no problems with articling or anything, it is 100% stable. my fan speed is at 80% and it idles at 33C. after playing crysis maxed out on 1280x768 for a couple of hours it reaches 45C.

I got my info on the over clocking from
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/for [...] ga-24.html

all these settings workied with standard edtion the same way they did witht the overclocked edition. whats the point of spending the extra $20 on the overclocked edtion if your just going to overclock it more than that anyways?

Reply to CyberBeast

i have no idea y mine and yours is idling at higher temps then others have posted, before i purchased the gts250 i upgraded to Corsairs 650W PSU, which is operating at much higher temps and is pushing out warm air, my old Ultra X-finity 500W psu was pushing out cool air, i haven't overclocked it yet cuz i want to get my temps down 1st, but the northbridge/southbridge combo on my gigabyte modo is definitely part of the problem cuz just having a small fan pointing on the heatsink of the n/s bridge loweres the temps by 5C, i have the GA-M57SLI-S4


Message edited by kb8618 on 06-04-2009 at 01:42:19 PM
Reply to kb8618

The reason why one card idles @ a lower temp is due to the fact that not everyone has the same ambient temps, none the less the same cases and cable management.... Back when I was using a BFG GTS 250 (1GB), my idle temps were 37c and load 50c MAX but my ambient temp has to be at 25c or lower to achieve those low temps.... If my ambient is @ 30c or higher my CPU and GPU temps reach 54c sometimes higher... So in all you can never compare your temp to someone else's since there are many factors to consider.....

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Reply to OvrClkr

i allso have the evga gts 250 1 gig.... im wondering why that when i do the numpad overclocks or just overclock in general it reverts back to the standard setting. my oc that this happens at is either of these two

1 core clock- 813
shader -1956
memory- 1241
fan- 100
2 core -820
shader- 1956
memory-1282
fan -100

Reply to taylorxr

I don't overclock the card that far,

Max OC for me on a GTS 250(1gb) is 805/1920/1211 if I tried anything higher I would get artifacts..... I am pleased with the performance of the 250, even though it is quite expensive compared to the 4850, I think it is worth every penny.....

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Message edited by OvrClkr on 09-07-2009 at 09:42:23 PM
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Reply to OvrClkr

OvrClkr wrote :

I don't overclock the card that far,

Max OC for me on a GTS 250(1gb) is 805/1920/1211 if I tried anything higher I would get artifacts..... I am pleased with the performance of the 250, even though it is quite expensive compared to the 4850, I think it is worth every penny.....





my max oc is about 825 when i start seeing artifacts if the graphics card is hot, and 830 when its cool. but what pisses me off is that it reverts back to the standard oc with the fan at 35%, i recorded the temps with cpuid and i got up to 76 degrees because of the switch back

Reply to taylorxr

65nm? its suppose to be 55nm. I hear some companies are rebranding 9800gtx as gts 250. I would call evga and confirm it with them if its 65 or 55nm. the 9800gtx doesnt draw much power they really only need 1 pcie but to be safe they add two.
Did you try using the latest gpu-z?


Message edited by invisik on 09-08-2009 at 03:03:16 AM
Reply to invisik

It's not the companies who re-branded the 9800GTX, it was Nvidia, they basically lowered the power consumption and added a tad of performance over the 9800GTX....

The GTS 250's that use one 6 pin connector are the 55nm version....

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Reply to OvrClkr

would a 550 watt powersupply be sufficent enough to run 2 gts250's a quad core 95 watt 1or 2 dvd players 4 sticks of ram ddr2, and 1 or 2 harddrives?

Reply to taylorxr

depends what 550w we are talking about... If it's a brand name PSU you should be fine.... What is the specs and brand of the PSU?

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Reply to OvrClkr

its a diablo tech ps here is the link- http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=1079

so far it has very stable voltages only changing .01- volts and .02 at the most.

Its what i could afford at the time, but so far it seems like a good ps. I didn't really read into it too much when buying.
-oh and thanks for the help so far

Reply to taylorxr

You can try but I doubt it will have enough juice for both cards... I would suggest you save up and buy this for your 250's...

Antec EA650 SLI Ready PSU :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371015

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Reply to OvrClkr

With my Gigabyte GTS 250 Zalman Edition I get

GPU Clock: 900 MHz
Memory: 1270 MHz
Shader: 2000 MHz

as verified: http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/ahx3a/


Idle temp: 44 C @ 4% Fan speed
Load temp: 75 C @ 6% Fan speed when running GPU version of Folding@Home.

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