Core i3 or BS?

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"More information about Mainstream Core i5 :

Core i5 based on Core i7 Nehalem architecture,code-named Lynnfield.It has most Core i7 technological characteristics,such as integrated memory controller,support for dual-channel DDR3 memory, L3 cache systems, supporting smart acceleration technology Turbo Mode. as well as to accelerate the Hyper-Threading Technology. Core i5, using native quad-core design,upto 8 thread after opening the Hyper-Threading technology. Core i5 also has 8MB of L3 cache.

Mainstream Core i5 and high-end Core i7 have the biggest difference in interface. The latter adopts LGA 1366 interface, while Core i5 will be LGA 1156 interface, which means they can only be used on corresponding motherboards without compatibility. In addition, Core i5 does not use QPI bus, replaced by mature DMI (DirectMediaInterface) bus. Corresponding chipset is a P55/P57 for Core i5. Core i5 will be released in the third or fourth quarter, 2.13G Core i5 multi-thread performance is close to 3G Core 2 Quad.

More information about entry-level Core i3 :

Core i3 adopts 32nm technology (codenamed Clarkdale, based on Westmere architecture). Its biggest characteristics is integrated GPU, that is to say, Core i3 will be in CPU + GPU package from. Due to the limited performance of integrated GPU, users can add graphics outside for better 3D performance. Despite of Clarkdale, graphics kernel process is still 45nm.

Core i3 CPU adopts dual-core design in specs.It can support 4 threads, L3 cache is reduced from 8MB to 4MB. memory controller, dual-channel, intelligent acceleration technology, hyper-thread technology will be retained. Corresponding motherboard will be P55/P57. Core i3 processors will be published next year.
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http://en.inpai.com.cn/doc/enshowcont.asp?id=6126

"More information about Mainstream Core i5 :

Core i5 based on Core i7 Nehalem architecture,code-named Lynnfield.It has most Core i7 technological characteristics,such as integrated memory controller,support for dual-channel DDR3 memory, L3 cache systems, supporting smart acceleration technology Turbo Mode. as well as to accelerate the Hyper-Threading Technology. Core i5, using native quad-core design,upto 8 thread after opening the Hyper-Threading technology. Core i5 also has 8MB of L3 cache.

Mainstream Core i5 and high-end Core i7 have the biggest difference in interface. The latter adopts LGA 1366 interface, while Core i5 will be LGA 1156 interface, which means they can only be used on corresponding motherboards without compatibility. In addition, Core i5 does not use QPI bus, replaced by mature DMI (DirectMediaInterface) bus. Corresponding chipset is a P55/P57 for Core i5. Core i5 will be released in the third or fourth quarter, 2.13G Core i5 multi-thread performance is close to 3G Core 2 Quad.

More information about entry-level Core i3 :

Core i3 adopts 32nm technology (codenamed Clarkdale, based on Westmere architecture). Its biggest characteristics is integrated GPU, that is to say, Core i3 will be in CPU + GPU package from. Due to the limited performance of integrated GPU, users can add graphics outside for better 3D performance. Despite of Clarkdale, graphics kernel process is still 45nm.

Core i3 CPU adopts dual-core design in specs.It can support 4 threads, L3 cache is reduced from 8MB to 4MB. memory controller, dual-channel, intelligent acceleration technology, hyper-thread technology will be retained. Corresponding motherboard will be P55/P57. Core i3 processors will be published next year.
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If im not mistake, what u posted about the i5 is correct

the i3 ive never even heard of till just now but ill look at more sources

Reply to UberGenocide

i3 = Larrabee perhaps?

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Reply to mousemonkey

In the OP's message, it stated a 2.13GHz i5 == Q9650 in multithreaded apps. I believe the informations that was stated is mistaken as my i7 920 at stock speeds is only marginally faster than the Q9650 in some apps. In some apps, of course, the i7 920 dominates it, but not the point where 2.13GHz i5==Q9650.

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mousemonkey wrote :

i3 = Larrabee perhaps?

I'm going to assume that i3 corresponds to the 32nm Clarkdale with onboard GPU and reduced cache levels.

This news has been around forever, and Intel has stated that i5 will not be the marketing name for Lynnfield, so I doubt i3 will be the name for Clarkdale.

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mousemonkey wrote :

i3 = Larrabee perhaps?

no larrabee is its own separate GPU it's not supposed to be integrated it's mean to compee with the high end nvidia and ati products

Reply to rooseveltdon

Even i5 is not a confirmed name by Intel hence I still use LGA1156 when referring to i5.

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Isn't i3 canceled?

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i3 is the scaled down Nehalem. It has the 32nm CPU and 45nm GPU on the same die using Socket H(715). Supposedly, the lower pin count is because it has no IMC (It will use DDR2 IIRC).

It will probably be marketed as a Nehalem version of a Celeron, so it will probably only be good for ultra-lowend desktops. Might be good in bargain laptops, though.

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I've seen no credible source which would indicate there will ever be any Nehalem or Westmere-generation CPUs released without an IMC, and lots of evidence to the contrary.

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If you extrapolate off the initial Nehalem info:

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Sockets

Socket 1366: 3xDDR3, External PCI Express, 1-2xQuickPath (Optional 2S?), Q408.
Socket 1160: 2xDDR3, 16xPCI Express Gen2, DMI (to southbridge, slower than FSB), 1H09.
Socket 715: No IMC, Optional PCI Express, 1xQuickPath to northbridge, 1H09.

Desktop CPUs

Bloomfield: Socket 1366, Quad-Core, Ultra-High-End.
Lynnfield: Socket 1160, Quad-Core, High-End.
Havendale: Socket 1160, MCM (CPU+GPU/IMC), Dual-Core, Mid-Range.
?Havendale?: Socket 715, Dual-Core, Low-End. Northbridges can use DDR2.

http://www.beyond3d.com/content/news/540

Things could be different, as Intel has yet to officially announce the Socket 715 or its specifications.

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Not credible; a year and a half old and even then Beyond3D admitted it was speculation because 715 didn't appear on the new roadmap listed by PCWatch.

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exit2dos wrote :

It will probably be marketed as a Nehalem version of a Celeron, so it will probably only be good for ultra-lowend desktops. Might be good in bargain laptops, though.

Ultra-lowend? Its still based off of the Nehalem architecture, how lowend can it be?

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archibael wrote :

Not credible; a year and a half old and even then Beyond3D admitted it was speculation because 715 didn't appear on the new roadmap listed by PCWatch.

Agreed - I would be quite surprised if a non-IMC bearing nehalem derivative showed up at this point.

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