Advice Needed for a 1st Time Builder

Adam86MD

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This is my first time building my own desktop and all that I have already is the mouse and keyboard. Needless to say, I'd like some advice.

The purpose of this machine will primarily be gaming (I'm mostly an RTS kind of guy) but I also will use it for everything else like internet, paper-writing, etc. Basically if it can run the games I like (such as C&C 3) now and whatever else like it that comes out for the next 5 years I'll be happy. I'm assuming a system that can handle games can handle all the other everyday things.

I've done a lot of shopping around at places like NewEgg, TigerDirect, ZipZoomFly, PriceGrabber, and Micro Center, but my knowledge base to begin with was limited. I've only got the advice of one other person who has done this before so I'm hoping for lots of input. Compatibility is an issue I'm worried about, especially regarding the PCU/MOBO/Graphics Card. And even though I've tried to read up on power supplies and used online calculators, I'm still confused about what I need there too.

But the big thing is the bang-for-the-buck factor. I'm on a tight budget of $700 so every dollar counts.

For some parts, I have only one in mind, and others I have two or three that vary in price. Obviously, just upgrading all to the most expensive ones would bust my budget, so I have to be careful.


Processor:
Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 - 2.80GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 3MB cache -- $100
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (Adds $50) - 3.0GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 6MB cache -- $150
Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200 (Saves $30) - 2.50GHz, 800MHz FSB, 2MB cache -- $70

Motherboard:
Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L (Adds $12 for P45 chipset) -- $100
MSI P43 Neo3-F 775 ATX -- $88

Graphics Card:
XFX GeForce 9800 GTX+ -- $130
Sapphire 100259L Radeon HD 4870 512 MB (Adds $45) -- $175
Visiontek Radeon HD 3870 (Saves $30) -- $100

Memory:
Kingston PC6400 800MHz 4GB DDR2 (2x2GB) -- $30

Hard Drive:
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 - 500GB, SATA II, 7200RPM, 16MB cache -- $60
Hitachi Deskstar P7K500 - 500GB, SATA, 7200RPM, 16MB cache -- $60

Case:
Rosewill R222-P-BK -- $25

Power Supply:
PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500 500W -- $60
RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-530SS 530W ATX (Saves $20 MIR) -- $40

Optical Drive:
Sony Optiarc Black 22X DVD Burner -- $20

Monitor:
Acer AL1916WAB 19" Widescreen LCD (Refurbished) - 1400x900 -- $100

Total (if all mid-level components are purchased) = $675


I have just a little more to spend but I don't know part to go a little higher on. Feel free to rip it apart or suggest something completely different if you think it will give me the best gaming machine possible for my money.
 

xthekidx

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I recommend this GPU for $145 after MIR (great value here)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161236

Go for the E5200 and then overclock it. You can get to 3.2-3.4 on stock cooling, if you go higher then you need a better cooler.

Get the P45 board, it will overclock better.

PC P&C PSU is much better quality, I recommend that one.

I'd get this case instead, its more expensive but has free shipping, which saves you like $15. That rosewill will have problems fitting a larger GPU like the 4870 I think. This one will fit it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119189

I would go for this HDD instead, its faster and cheaper, but not quite as big.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136074
 

Adam86MD

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Thanks for the advice guys. It helps a ton. But just a few things:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136074[/quotemsg]
This WD doesn't look any faster than the Seagate I'm looking at. 7200RPM, 16MB cache. What's the difference in speed that I'm overlooking versus the one I was thinking about at first? (Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 - 500GB, SATA II, 7200RPM, 16MB cache)

A bigger case does seem like a good idea. But I don't like the reviews on the Cooler Master you posted. What about these for a bigger case with adequate PSU included? I'm worried about the quality of the power supplies like that but the reviews suggest that they are good quality. Tell me what you think:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147118
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156098
I have to admit, cases seem like the most simple component but they are a pain to shop for.

And something new: a friend of mine has an Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 that he can't use so he might sell it to me for $150 even though it costs about $280 on newegg. More $$$ than the $70 E5200 (overclocked) but it's a CHEAP quad core good as new!
 

xthekidx

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The HDD I showed you will be faster because of platter density. It uses a 320gb platter, the other one uses 2 250gb platters. More GB/platter=faster read/write times.

I wouldn't get either of those cases with those PSU's. The cases themselves are fine, but those PSU's are as bad as they get. Get a case without a PSU and then get that PSU we recommended up there^^
 

Adam86MD

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That's what I figured that about the case/psu combos. :( I'll keep looking for a decent case I like and stick with the quality psu listed above. By the way, you think 500 watts will be enough? The wattage calculators I've tried online don't agree with one another. They've ranged from 280 - 550 watts.

And regarding the Quad core, I think he made a compatibility error or something. I feel bad for the guy but I'm not about to pass up the deal if it comes my way. (And he only has one, sorry.)