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kiio   03-24-2009 at 08:19:01 PM

I have a Gigabyte P45-UD3L mobo with 4 GB of PC 8500+ RAM. Which video card is better.

Asus EN9800GTX+ DK /HTDI/512M nVidia GeForce 9800GTX+ Chipset (775Mhz) 512MB (2.36Ghz) DDR3 Dual Dual-Link Display PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card

http://www.canadacomputers.com/ind [...] 99.243.390

or

Asus EAH4850 MATRIX/HTDI/512M ATI Radeon HD 4850 Chipset (625MHz ) 1024MB (1986Mhz) DDR3 Dual Dual-Link DVI Display PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card

http://www.canadacomputers.com/ind [...] 99.243.272

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The_Blood_Raven   03-24-2009 at 08:27:16 PM
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Generally? They are both extremely close but the 4850 pulls ahead because of the free AA it can offer. It is also cheaper than the 9800 GTX+, so it really is an easy decision.

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kiio   03-24-2009 at 08:32:52 PM
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Well I have to buy them from this site, and they are both basically the same price. Given that is the 4850 still ahead?

I mainly want it for gaming, Crysis, fallout, etc...

the CPU is q6600 if it matters.

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rangers   03-24-2009 at 08:46:07 PM
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the 4850 all the way

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Euphoria_MK   03-24-2009 at 08:48:39 PM
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Both of them are good cards... Hmm, I dont know I might go with the HD4850, has a 1GB VRAM and hot air is being pushed out of the case. Although the Dark Knight heatsinks, like the one on the 9800GTX, are good too, they require better case air flow. Plus you can always do crossfire in future with another 4850 if you motherboard supports it....


Up to you my friend.
Cheers

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kiio   03-24-2009 at 09:44:05 PM
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I've been looking at some review, and the 9800 seems to do slightly better. Does anyone have any reasons or links to why this specific 4850 is the better choice. I was also wondering if the extra 512MB will really be used, are there any games that use the extra memory?

Thanks for all the help so far.

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SSammut   03-24-2009 at 10:18:12 PM
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Seeing as thes cards are so close, you can rest assured that you won't make the wrong decision. My choice in this matter would depend on the native chipset of the MOBO (if it supports SLI go with NVIDIA if crossfire go AMD... if neither flip a coin)

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kiio   03-25-2009 at 06:11:37 PM
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I thinking the 9800 is gonna be the best option in this case. The speeds are just so much faster and I dont think there are any games out there that really take advantage of 1GB of memory vs 512MB.

I'm not too sure yet though, so if I'm wrong and the extra 512MB really does make a difference please let me know.


Thanks a lot for all the replies thus far.

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daedalus685   03-25-2009 at 06:31:17 PM
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If you play at 24inche native resolutions you will want the larger frame buffer, it ill make a substantial difference. If not, you are correct to assume the memory makes little difference.. Of course, if you are not concerned about the memory being an issue why not get a substantially cheeper 4850 512mb (you would however lose the very impressive matrix heat sink)? or even a 4870 512 would be about the same price. The sapphire 4870 512 is only ten dollars mroe than the matrix 4850 1gig. (at canadacomputers anyway)

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kiio   03-25-2009 at 06:37:43 PM
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I play on a 21inch 1680 x 1050 monitor.

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daedalus685   03-25-2009 at 06:47:04 PM
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Wait a second, even at canada computers teh matrix is 30 dollars LESS than the 9800. Did you make a mistake or is that "pretty much teh same price"?
You can get a 4870 for less than the 9800 from canada computers.

Goven that you would be kinda silly to take a 9800 for more than a 4870. Even if the 4870 is sapphire and stock cooling. The DK heatsink isnt worth that much IMO.

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kiio   03-25-2009 at 06:51:58 PM
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Comparing this one?

http://canadacomputers.com/index.p [...] 99.243.272

vs this one?

http://canadacomputers.com/index.p [...] 99.243.272

Is the DK one worth the extra price? I see that it has a much higher clockspeed on the memory and chipset. Is it big enough to justify the extra ~$20?

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daedalus685   03-25-2009 at 06:56:39 PM
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First off, the 4870 is a far better card than the 9800GTX+ if that is were we are..

Second. I do not personally think that the DK rendition is worth the extra 50 dollars. But if you are confident the mail in rebte will work out fine (I'm usually hesitant on counting on them 100%), then the DK is probably worth the extra 20.

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The_Blood_Raven   03-26-2009 at 01:22:04 AM
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kiio wrote :

I thinking the 9800 is gonna be the best option in this case. The speeds are just so much faster and I dont think there are any games out there that really take advantage of 1GB of memory vs 512MB.

I'm not too sure yet though, so if I'm wrong and the extra 512MB really does make a difference please let me know.


Thanks a lot for all the replies thus far.



The "speeds" have nothing to do with it, they are a different architecture. The 4850 and the 9800 GTX+ are basically the EXACT SAME THING, they vary a bit depending on the game but both get about the same overall performance. The 4850 can pull off 2x/4x AA without a performance dip, the 9800 GTX+ can not.




kiio wrote :

Comparing this one?

http://canadacomputers.com/index.p [...] 99.243.272

vs this one?

http://canadacomputers.com/index.p [...] 99.243.272

Is the DK one worth the extra price? I see that it has a much higher clockspeed on the memory and chipset. Is it big enough to justify the extra ~$20?



Again you can not compare the clockspeeds between the cards, they are different architectures. Remember you will be paying $270 for the 9800 GTX+ and $230 for the 4850 up front. You will get an extra $50 in the mail after about 6-12 months, those prices are not comparable.

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wip99gt   03-26-2009 at 01:45:17 AM
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Memory express has a BFG gtx 260 core 216 for $260 if you can buy from there.
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Produ [...] 6(ME).aspx

At Canada Computers they have the palit gtx 260 for $260
http://www.canadacomputers.com/ind [...] 99.243.390

I'm not sure if the palit is the core 216 or not though. I'd prefer the BFG myself but if you have to buy from there I'd get the gtx 260 over the 512 4870.

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