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BFG GTX 285 OCX Vs. EVGA GTX 285 SSC

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March 25, 2009 5:27:16 PM

Hello All,

New to the forum. Wanted to know if anyone had feedback on the BFG GTX285 OCX and the EVGA GTX 285 SSC. I have Dell XPS 630i with a 750w PSU, a Nvidia 650 MoBo, and currently have a 9800GT. while the 9800GT is a good card, I seem to be have some problems with a few games in that they stick or freeze. I have the most current drivers and still sometimes get the problems. I know both cards are very good and almost identical in features as well as overclock rates. Also read that there might be a GTX285 2GB card coming out, is there any truth in that?

Thanks for the info.

Mike
March 25, 2009 6:36:52 PM

EVGA has a better warranty. I will only purchase EVGA or XFX nvidia cards and usually only xfx ati cards because of their warranty
March 25, 2009 6:49:16 PM

BFG and EVGA are the same, only difference is BFG gives you 10 days more to make up your mind, and aren't as demanding from the packaging when you ship it to them. The approve it almost instantly.

When dealing with EVGA and BFG technical support, I'd have to say that they are both idiots, but BFG was alot more helpful for Step up.

Warranty is exactly the same, Life time.

XFX is my choice for ATi, but I like the step up idea, and love that I can be covered for 3 months, if another card catches my eye. XFX instead you can modify the cooling and it comes with double life time warranty, which basically means you can pass it on to a friend and they can register the warranty too from my understanding:) 


good luck, if the choice is bfg VS evga get which ever is cheaper, if price is the same, flip a coin or go by how nice the picture is;) they are technically the same card. I've see the BFG oc more, but you can't use that because the its random for each card.
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March 25, 2009 6:51:06 PM

BFG does not support overclocking or cooler removal like EVGA. If you are not doing either then it does not matter.
March 25, 2009 6:53:14 PM

evga doesn't support cooler removal, and overclocking is at your own risk with EVGA.
March 25, 2009 6:54:18 PM

Yesthey do as long as you do not damage the pcb or the serial number sticker.


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March 25, 2009 6:56:22 PM

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March 25, 2009 6:58:58 PM

L1qu1d said:
Evga revamped their warranties,

http://www.evga.com/support/warranty/

yup I just read it, it wasn't there before, nor was 1+1 and 1+2.

Umm that is what I posted. No where do they void the warranty for removal of heatsink or overclocking.
March 25, 2009 6:59:13 PM

doubtful about the overclocking though

"damage during modification of any kind"
March 25, 2009 7:00:13 PM

"here is no physical damage to the PCB, GPU/chipset, or components that are caused by: Damage due to improper installation, damage during modification of any kind, damage during any type of Aftermarket cooling installation, and water damage of any kind."
As long as you do not damage the pcb or the serial number.
March 25, 2009 7:01:27 PM

so if the components short circuit or over heat, melt/burn. thats not physical?
March 25, 2009 7:04:57 PM

Bfg should revamp the warranty soon 2 hopefully I know that they auto register cards from step up so you don't have to, they adapted to the step up, and soon should move on. I've had alot better experiences with BFG, I had 3 260 GTX EVGA FTW, and not could oc even 15 mhz.

Though I do recommend both companies, I like BFG more.
March 25, 2009 7:05:03 PM

I am not saying that. If that happens then yes there is physical damage. If you install a cooler correctly there will not be physical damage. If it shorts out or just stops working just reinstall the cooler that you have to send back and usually they replace the card. If you melt or burn the card they will not replace it. This is much better than what bfg offers. If they see that the heatsink has been removed they will reject it. If they can prove it has been overclocked they will do the same.
March 25, 2009 7:07:53 PM

Oced, my 9800 GX2 to 780 mhz :)  didn't say anything, when I asked them about the overclocking, they said "if the card passes stress test, it will be accepted:) "

I've actually had better experience with XFX than evga and BFG, but I don't like the no step up idea.
March 25, 2009 7:08:24 PM

Out of the 3 I perfer dealing with XFX. Much better customer serivce of the three. I misplaced a cd key for a game they gave me free and they gave me a new key within an hour of the claim. They have told us to ship back a few 4870 even though we knew they were not bad. They replaced the cards. Hopefully BFG will update thier warranty and suppord ocing and pcb removal. They have always been a good company.
March 25, 2009 7:10:02 PM

Yeah I was kinda leery about the step up plan but usually keep cards over the 90 days. I will sell the cards anyways to upgrade.
March 25, 2009 7:12:12 PM

Thanks for all of the insight and great info. BTW, anything on a 2GB card from either manufacturer?
March 25, 2009 7:17:23 PM

doubt 2 GB willd o much since no DDR5, and only 512 bit:) 
March 25, 2009 7:19:13 PM

Don't waste your money on a 2gb card. You will really not see much of an improvement.
March 25, 2009 7:37:00 PM

Thanks, now decisions, decisions, decisions. :pt1cable: 
March 26, 2009 4:03:38 PM

After some additional reading, some recommend getting the standard non overclocked cards. Some feel that the non oc cards will produce a higher overclock than the factory oc versions without spending the extra $50 to $80.
Any opinions on this? Is the extra money worth the oc?

Thanks
Mike
a b U Graphics card
March 26, 2009 4:41:47 PM

No OC is guarrenteed, but a regular card should OC close to the OC'd versions anyway.
March 26, 2009 4:47:31 PM

yes^

I mean its the same card most of the times, unless the company chooses to flash the bios of the card to accept higher volts.

If you don't want to risk OCing it would be a better idea to grab 1 done for u, not just because of the warranty just so you don't have to send it in and wait 2-3 weeks for it to come back.

me personally I try to go either vanilla (no oc), or 1 step above stock, that way I know I paid the least amount, and I either have a slight edge over stock, and I'm more comfortable.

Usually though, I just oc my card to match the highest OC card from that company, example. BFG 285, I would try to touch OCX speeds.:) 
March 26, 2009 10:59:16 PM

Decided to go with EVGA GTX 285 FTW, now have to wait until one comes in.
March 26, 2009 11:19:09 PM

IM currently in a TRADE-UP process with BFG (9800GTX+ OC for a GTX285 OC2) and they are pretty fast in the process. But the PAIEMENT system is DOWN since 2 days ... what a PAIN in the ass. At least i have my second GTX+ running. but still .. this is slowing the process. Ill trade-up my second card after .. just hope that its gonna be FASTER this time.

I took BFG's cause when i traded my dead EVGA 9800GTX+ SC (futurshop) trhere was no EVGA in stock .. i took 2 BFG's. And now im Trading those 2 card.

Im not a GPU OCer, thats why i take factory OCed card ...
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