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hey guys I am not sure what the deal is. I bought a samsung t240HD and no matter what I do I can't get it to run at 1920x1200 even though both the monitor and GPU are rated for that. Drivers are updated as well. Any ideas?
Message edited by tm84p on 03-27-2009 at 01:23:03 AM
Did you install the driver for the monitor?
Stupid question, but I have to ask: using DVI port right?
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yes using DVI and yes installed driver for monitor, actually Vista picked it up on its own, didn't need the monitor driver. I can get it to do 180p settings but it makes everything run terribly slow and stretched out. The funny thing is that native should be 1920 x 1200 on this monitor. Thats why I thought I should post it here to see if anyone else had an idea.
You don't mention what video card you have.
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Ahh... glazed over that somehow... Who makes it??
Hey sorry, I just realized my first post was pretty sparse on iformation. My full specs are:
gigabyte ep35-ds3p
intel e8400
8GB OCZ ddr-1066
ASUS Radeon 4850 512MB
Corsair tx(HX?)850W
Vista 64 bit
Ati Drivers are all updated. I really don't get why it isn't just plug and play, anyone else have this monitor?
Even tho Vista picked up the monitor driver on it's own.... DL the one from Samsung and give that a try. If you have the latest video drivers, not sure what else would be the prob.
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer [...] nu2=detail
See if this link works.
I run the t260 and did not have any problems with the resolution once the vid drivers were installed. I am running win 7 so I just right click desktop and go to screen resolution. I don't set the res in the nvidia control panel.
Yeah I downloaded that already, unfortunately it didn't make a difference. Do you need to use an HDMI cable to get the proper resolution?
I could be wrong about the HDMI cable, but I don't think that should matter.
Question.... do you even get the option to set it at 1920 x 1200 ???
As chef said... Right click the desktop... Click Personalize... Click Display Settings....
Click Advanced Settings button... Under Adapter Tab, click List All Modes...
Is 1920x1200 on the list???
nope, 1920 x 1080 is on there but x 1200 isn't, the only reason 1920x 1080 is even there is because i forced it in there with the catalyst software, originally it wasn't going past 1680 x 1050.
I have the T240HD, only diff is I have the 4870 w/512 Meg GPU. Also didn't try the DVI cable as I have a Blu-ray recorder and Blu-ray playback pretty much requires HDMI cable with I used from the Get go (With DVI->Hdmi adaptor)- Had no problems w/1920 by 1200
| RetiredChief wrote : I have the T240HD, only diff is I have the 4870 w/512 Meg GPU. Also didn't try the DVI cable as I have a Blu-ray recorder and Blu-ray playback pretty much requires HDMI cable with I used from the Get go (With DVI->Hdmi adaptor)- Had no problems w/1920 by 1200 |
HDIM is not required for either blue ray or displaying 1920x1200. DVI and HDMI are the same thing minus sound on DVI. There is no bennifiet of running dvi over hdmi unlass you are running sound to your monitor.
Message edited by chef7734 on 03-27-2009 at 02:26:25 AM
I have T240, i never heard of this before, what is the lowest and highest resoluton in display settings?
What hertz are you at? Make sure it is set to either 59 or 60.
Lowest and highest resolutions that I am picking up are 640 x 480 to 1680 x 1050. hertz is set at 60 but I have fooled with it at 59, it also list 23 and 24. It runs fine with it at 1920 x 1080 but it is stretched irritably. I would be fine with leaving it at that but the fact that it is rated to 1920 x 1200 makes me want to keep trying to find out why it isn;t working at that resolution.
You said you forced 1920x1080? How did you do that?
Okay man I know the exact answer to your problem. With your standard DVI cable you will only be able to do 1920 x 1080. You'll have to pick up a DVI-D that will do 1900 x 1200 - 2500 x 1600 and beyond. Your problem isn't the monitor or video card... just a simple cable. Just go out and try to find a DVI Dual Link cable and it'll work. If you can't find one in town then TigerDirect.com and Compusa.com have a bunch of them for only about 15-20 dollars. Don't worry about getting an expensive cable though just make sure it says DVI-D or DVI Dual Link.
Here is a link to a good one.
http://www.compusa.com/application [...] CatId=1163
DVI-D is standard cable with most everything now. Stands for DVI digital. It comes with any monitor that has a dvi cable included such as the T240. This is not his problem is he is using the cable that came with the monitor.DVI-D single link which is what comes with monitors 27" and below support up to 1920x1200. A dual link DVI-D supports higher than 1920x1200.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe [...] es.svg.png
Message edited by chef7734 on 03-27-2009 at 03:03:31 AM
these monitors come with the cables. I am starting to think uninstall ati drivers and reinstall. use driver cleaner pro. somehting aint right. or reset mointor, buttons on the right side.
Message edited by maximiza on 03-27-2009 at 03:10:01 AM
Give that a try and see if it works .
Sorry, wrong words, it wasn't forced I meant to say you have to add the 1080 support to the display manager within the catalyst control center. Thanks for the input on the DVI-D cable mamw93, unless something else comes up I will try that, I just want to see if there are any other explainations for this anomaly. I don't mean to doubt you or anything I am just having a hard time believing that they would package a monitor that proudly displays 1920 x 1200 and then ships a cable with it that doesn't support that format. But hey it could happen!
| tm84p wrote : Sorry, wrong words, it wasn't forced I meant to say you have to add the 1080 support to the display manager within the catalyst control center. Thanks for the input on the DVI-D cable mamw93, unless something else comes up I will try that, I just want to see if there are any other explainations for this anomaly. I don't mean to doubt you or anything I am just having a hard time believing that they would package a monitor that proudly displays 1920 x 1200 and then ships a cable with it that doesn't support that format. But hey it could happen! |
The cable that shipped with the monitor is a dvi-d single link.Quite capable of supporting up to 1920x1200.
Hate to be a lazy bum but could you recommend a good program for wiping drivers and if possible a download link to it. Tks
Driver cleaner pro. http://www.afterdawn.com/software/ [...] er_pro.cfm
Hey there... I just found this information while looking up info for another post....
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/monitor3.htm
The info includes this tidbit...
DVI cables can be a single link cable that uses one TMDS transmitter or a dual link cable with two transmitters. A single link DVI cable and connection supports a 1920x1080 image, and a dual link cable/connection supports up to a 2048x1536 image.
If this info is correct... I believe you just need a DVI dual link cable.
that is incorrect. a single link supports 1920x1200. Thats why when you purchase a monitor under 30" you receive a single link cable while 30" and above you receive a dual link. I am using single link with my t260 at 1920x1200.All you have to do is look at your cable. If there are missing pins in the middle it is a single link cable.
http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/dvi_info.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/t [...] _Interface
Message edited by chef7734 on 03-29-2009 at 04:27:08 AM
Hmmm, so why is it getting stuck in HDTV mode....
Well we have no heard from him since he reinstalled the drivers. I am pretty sure it is a software issue.
Hey sorry I never checked back in on this after a little bit of inactivity. Nope reinstalling the drivers didn't work. I called Samsung about it and they came up with the same dual link cable idea so to satisfy them i got a dual link cable and no dice. I am probably going to call them back tomorrow and see if they wil replace the monitor or not as apperntly there are quite a few people having the same problem with the t240's. Tks for all your replies and i will try to update it once I get the thing fixed.
I currently have the same issue.
Just bought a Dell 540 with ATI3450hd 256mb. Try Dual link, single link DVI and HDMI do not work. Get 9400GS card still doesn't work.
I have the same problem, it's not the monitor. I hooked up a windows XP pc and loaded the Samsung driver and the monitor works at 1920x1200. Using the 15 pin vga or DVI adapter. This would show the problem in the Vista driver for the monitor. I'm using A nvidia in the XP and the Vista box. Same problem with ATI 3450 HD card. So I'm back to using XP. Vista still is not ready.
mdoren@optonline.net
| tm84p wrote : Hey sorry I never checked back in on this after a little bit of inactivity. Nope reinstalling the drivers didn't work. I called Samsung about it and they came up with the same dual link cable idea so to satisfy them i got a dual link cable and no dice. I am probably going to call them back tomorrow and see if they wil replace the monitor or not as apperntly there are quite a few people having the same problem with the t240's. Tks for all your replies and i will try to update it once I get the thing fixed. |
I have the same problem, it's not the monitor. I hooked up a windows XP pc and loaded the Samsung driver and the monitor works at 1920x1200. Using the 15 pin vga or DVI adapter. This would show the problem in the Vista driver for the monitor. I'm using A nvidia in the XP and the Vista box. Same problem with ATI 3450 HD card. So I'm back to using XP. Vista still is not ready.
mdoren@optonline.net
you should exchange another one now. The firmware you have on it is for 22in only. The signal it sends to you video card for max 1680x1050 only. To confirm it you should try with another monitor with 1920x1200 then exchange out the T240HD ( do not reboot the system). You would see your T240HD would be able to display in the full scale ( 1920x1200). However, if you reboot your system the monitor would go back to its 22in firmware.
I did it myself.
| aikon0899 wrote : you should exchange another one now. The firmware you have on it is for 22in only. The signal it sends to you video card for max 1680x1050 only. To confirm it you should try with another monitor with 1920x1200 then exchange out the T240HD ( do not reboot the system). You would see your T240HD would be able to display in the full scale ( 1920x1200). However, if you reboot your system the monitor would go back to its 22in firmware.
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Then why does is work properly with XP? The problem is with the code for Vista. Samsung needs to fix the driver for Vista, works fine with the same PC running XP. Load vista and problem occurs again.
I have the same problem with my T260HD. I'm running vista with a radeon 4800. HDMI works great (1920x1200), but DVI doesn't. I can configure it to run at 1920x1200 in vista, but when I logoff/logon again the screen goes blank and stays blank. Plugging in the cable in another monitor and then in the T260HD seems to 'wake up' the display again. Dual link cable doesn't help.
Is there any conclusion on what the real problem is ? Is it the firmware or the Samsung monitor driver ? Anybody got this setup to work ?
Ok this is what I ran into.... Here is my specs with Monitor asset...
Monitor
Model name............... SyncMaster
Manufacturer............. Samsung
Plug and Play ID......... SAM03F0
Serial number............ HVLQC00112
Manufacture date......... 2008, ISO week 50
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EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 470 x 300 mm (22.0 in)
Power management......... Active off/sleep
Extension blocs.......... None
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DDC/CI................... Supported
MCCS revison............. 2.0
Display technology....... TFT
Controller............... Mstar 0x1400
Firmware revision........ 0.1
Firmware flags........... 0x1
Active power on time..... Not supported
Current frequency........ 65.54kHz, 0.00Hz
Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.640 - Ry 0.330
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.300 - Gy 0.600
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.150 - By 0.060
White point (default).... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.329
Additional descriptors... None
Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 30-81kHz
Vertical scan range...... 56-75Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 150MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1680x1050p at 60Hz (16:10)
Modeline............... "1680x1050" 146.250 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync
Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 67Hz - Apple Mac II
640 x 480p at 72Hz - VESA
640 x 480p at 75Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 56Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 72Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 75Hz - VESA
832 x 624p at 75Hz - Apple Mac II
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 70Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 75Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 75Hz - VESA
1152 x 870p at 75Hz - Apple Mac II
1680 x 1050p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1280 x 960p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1152 x 864p at 75Hz - VESA STD
Report information
Date generated........... 5/19/2009
Software revision........ 2.30.0.797
Operating system......... 6.0.6001.2.Service Pack 1
Raw data
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Now here is the same Monitor from a friend of mine!
Monitor
Model name............... SyncMaster
Manufacturer............. Samsung
Plug and Play ID......... SAM0425
Serial number............ HVYS######
Manufacture date......... 2009, ISO week 6
-------------------------
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 520 x 320 mm (24.0 in)
Power management......... Active off/sleep
Extension blocs.......... None
-------------------------
DDC/CI................... Supported
MCCS revison............. 2.0
Display technology....... TFT
Controller............... Mstar 0x1400
Firmware revision........ 0.1
Firmware flags........... 0x1
Active power on time..... Not supported
Current frequency........ 65.54kHz, 0.00Hz
Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.640 - Ry 0.330
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.300 - Gy 0.600
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.150 - By 0.060
White point (default).... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.329
Additional descriptors... None
Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 30-81kHz
Vertical scan range...... 56-75Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 170MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1200p at 60Hz (16:10)
Modeline............... "1920x1200" 154.000 1920 1968 2000 2080 1200 1203 1209 1235 +hsync -vsync
Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 67Hz - Apple Mac II
640 x 480p at 72Hz - VESA
640 x 480p at 75Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 56Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 72Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 75Hz - VESA
832 x 624p at 75Hz - Apple Mac II
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 70Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 75Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 75Hz - VESA
1152 x 870p at 75Hz - Apple Mac II
1600 x 1200p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1280 x 960p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1152 x 864p at 75Hz - VESA STD
Report information
Date generated........... 4/2/2009
Software revision........ 2.30.0.797
Operating system......... 6.0.6001.2.Service Pack 1
Raw data
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0F,50,54,BF,EF,80,A9,40,81,80,81,40,71,4F,01,01,01 ,01,01,01,01,01,28,3C,80,A0,70,B0,23,40,30,20,
36,00,06,44,21,00,00,1A,00,00,00,FD,00,38,4B,1E,51 ,11,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FC,00,53,
79,6E,63,4D,61,73,74,65,72,0A,20,20,00,00,00,FF,00 ,48,56,59,53,32,30,30,39,36,35,0A,20,20,00,0A
PROBLEM!!!!
Plug and Play ID's Don't match mine is SAM03F0 his is SAM0425 .... its telling me that its a 22' NOT 24'. It is an EDID issue which means the manufacture who put in the EDID's messed up.
Now to show how I got all this information download this:http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/moninfo.shtm
Go to this website here and fill out the information if you are having the same problem I am having. http://www.samsung.com/us/support/ [...] Request.do
Also Read this forum as some other people are having the same problem http://forums.slickdeals.net/showt [...] 65&page=18 Start at page 18 and onwards.
Message edited by flatline9 on 05-27-2009 at 04:22:18 PM
Bump.
I made it easy to see where the differences are in my post.
Thanks a lot!
It seems there is actually nothing wrong with the monitor itself (the firmware seems to be correct, etc.), but that Vista somehow puts the monitor to sleep when it switches users. I replaced it with windows XP (after a small detour in Windows 7 that had the same problem), and everything works fine. I don't know whether the problem is the Vista support of the screen, or that it's a problem with Vista itself, but I got it to work.
| dreamcreamer wrote : Thanks a lot!
|
Well there might not be anything wrong with your monitor persay as I don't know your manufacture date, plugin play ID etc...
Are you saying that if you use your monitor via Windows XP (64 bit or whatever you use) it works fine? And you don't have any issues whatsoever? And if you use Vista it somehow puts the monitor to sleep? How does it put the monitor into to this sleep mode? I never switch users as I am the only user on this PC.
Hey guys,
I just got a t240hd and am running windows 7x64 with 2 x sapphire 4870's in crossfire. If I plug my monitor in the dvi port after windows has loaded with another monitir, it works fine until i reboot. Then when i reboot, it gives me the windows 7 splash screen and then goes black after giving me the sounds of the welcome screen. Then i can log into windows but it remains black and asleep. I can even plug in my old monitor after this has happened and it remains blank. Should I try the VGA cable? What's the deal here?
I have a t240"red rose" on DVI and with a HD4870 its fine at that, however its a sod for going blank :S
I have a 4870 and a t240hd running now, Just fine.
However today i added a 2nd t240hd, which seems to be having the same issue you all are, however my wifes sony links up just fine at 1920x1200 on hdmi.
Very odd indeed is there better firmware?
Anyone having problems with Samsung T240HD -
Need to use "DVI-D" cable, the cable that ships with the monitor is "DVI" (A-I)
Info on types of DVI cables
http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/dvi_info.html
This is on Samsung site:
Optional Accessories Remote Controller, D-Sub Cable, "DVI-D Cable "
http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer [...] fullspec=F
As long as the video card and the cable can support the digital signal (DVI-D), you will be fine using either DVI-D or DVI-I cables. The T240HD says it requires DVI-D simply because it won't use the analog signal if provided (through DVI-A or DVI-D) unless supplied through the VGA connector.
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