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June 3, 2009 5:15:55 AM

Hi,

I would just like to know your opinions with regards to my current setup.

I Have this:

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0 GHZ Processor

Gigabyte EP35-DS3R Motherboard

NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT 1GB (Which i am really regretful of...)

2 GB of Memory (Budget RAM only)

160 GB SATA Seagate HDD

Thing is I'm planning on doing an upgrade by replacing the graphics card and putting in more RAM, although I've recently heard that 4 GB of RAM is useless unless I'm going to install a 64 bit Windows XP, so I'm putting that at the bottom of the list. I've been reading a lot about which graphics card pays well for its price.

Well, in the end i eventually planned on going with the NVIDIA GeForce 9600GT 1GB DDR3. But I have seen some reviews that the 8800GTS performs better, but I don't have the extra budget for that card now.

So what do you think? should I go for the 9600GT or should I wait for another month's worth of salary to buy the 8800GTS?

BTW, I don't play Crysis or Fallout 3 or any game of that kind (the graphic intensive ones). The most graphically intensive game I played (in my opinion at least) is Devil May Cry 4 and NBA 2k9 (Oh i forgot, NFS Carbon too). Other than those, I only play Audition Online.

Any other suggestions for this setup (like future upgrades) are welcome.

Thank you for your suggestions.
June 3, 2009 5:24:42 AM

Hi E

You would be better off getting a 8800GT if your budget don't allow for a 9800GT (not much difference). These are good budget cards, if want a better card post back. There are some guys here that are really good with the VGA's, unfortunately I'm not one of them. But I know enough to know that you can make a better choice than the 9600.

Gigabyte EP35-DS3R:
http://www.gigabyte.us/Products/Motherboard/Products_Sp...
June 3, 2009 5:42:27 AM

Yeah!! If you throw an 8800gt at what you have got ,,with XP,, it will go just fine,I am running Fallout 3 on my 8800gt and it is flawless,,as for upgrading your ram to 4g or even more expen$ive $tuff,,well that is of course your choice,but from what I have read around the web it will make no difference if you have cheap but good ram or not,,the only real benefit from co$tly ram is it's higher voltage tolerances,basically speaking..:) 
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June 3, 2009 5:43:33 AM

starams5 said:
Hi E

You would be better off getting a 8800GT if your budget don't allow for a 9800GT (not much difference). These are good budget cards, if want a better card post back. There are some guys here that are really good with the VGA's, unfortunately I'm not one of them. But I know enough to know that you can make a better choice than the 9600.

Gigabyte EP35-DS3R:
http://www.gigabyte.us/Products/Motherboard/Products_Sp...



Hi,

Thanks so much for that advice. Well, sure, I would like to know the better cards. I can use that as a reference for future upgrades. BTW my budget is around 120-150 Dollars. Given the exchange rate here in the Philippines, (40 PhP = 1 USD) That would be around 6000 Pesos.

Based on this pricelist that I got from a local store the Inno3D 9600GT 1GB DDR3 costs 5350 Pesos or 133.75 USD while the Inno3D 8800GTS costs around 9648 Pesos or 241.2 USD

If there's a better card which would fit my budget.. pls pls pls. I want to know what it is. Thank you so much

Thanks Again.
June 3, 2009 5:48:42 AM

dokk2 said:
Yeah!! If you throw an 8800gt at what you have got ,,with XP,, it will go just fine,I am running Fallout 3 on my 8800gt and it is flawless,,as for upgrading your ram to 4g or even more expen$ive $tuff,,well that is of course your choice,but from what I have read around the web it will make no difference if you have cheap but good ram or not,,the only real benefit from co$tly ram is it's higher voltage tolerances,basically speaking..:) 


Hi,

Thanks for that wonderful advice. Having second thoughts now. Thinking of just restraining myself to buy a 9600GT. :D 

BTW, I looked at a game called Mirror's Edge a few months ago. I never tried it out, though I would like to. But like I said, I am not really that into those games, i want to play them of course, but not really often like audition.

I hope you're getting my drift.

Thanks :D 
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June 3, 2009 5:55:58 AM

Give us more info about that 8800GTS...How much RAM does it have ?
Is it 320/ 640/ 512 ?
If it is 512, then get that as it is better and dont get the 320/640 MB ones...they are old and dont offer good performance...

Ask them the price of an ATI 4850, ATI 4770, Nvidia 9800GT, ATI 4830 ...
All of these cards perform as good or better than 8800GTS...
June 3, 2009 6:19:58 AM

gkay09 said:
Give us more info about that 8800GTS...How much RAM does it have ?
Is it 320/ 640/ 512 ?
If it is 512, then get that as it is better and dont get the 320/640 MB ones...they are old and dont offer good performance...

Ask them the price of an ATI 4850, ATI 4770, Nvidia 9800GT, ATI 4830 ...
All of these cards perform as good or better than 8800GTS...



Hi,

Sorry I forgot to type that in. The 8800GTS has 512MB of memory
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June 3, 2009 6:24:39 AM

Hmm...I guess that the price of that 8800GTS is inflated as they are not in production now...
So get the price of the other cards that I had given...they are in production and those would have somewhat correct pricing...
June 3, 2009 6:29:03 AM

gkay09 said:
Hmm...I guess that the price of that 8800GTS is inflated as they are not in production now...
So get the price of the other cards that I had given...they are in production and those would have somewhat correct pricing...



The Powercolor HD4850 512 MB 256 bit is priced at 7698 pesos (192.45 USD), can't find the 4770 in the pricelist though, the NVIDIA 9800GT 1GB DDR3 256 bit @ 6348 pesos (158.7 USD), and the 4830 512MB DDR3 256 bit is @5648 pesos (141.2 USD)
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June 3, 2009 6:34:49 AM

Then the best options are the 9800GT and the 4830...
They perform very much the same but you can expect 8800GTS performance with that 4830...
And the 4850 would totally outperform all the cards including the 8800GTS by a good margin...

And totally forget about the 8800GTS...Totally not worth that price...
June 3, 2009 6:43:25 AM

gkay09 said:
Then the best options are the 9800GT and the 4830...
They perform very much the same but you can expect 8800GTS performance with that 4830...
And the 4850 would totally outperform all the cards including the 8800GTS by a good margin...

And totally forget about the 8800GTS...Totally not worth that price...


Hi,

Thank you so much for enlightening me. :) 

Maybe that's why my eye somehow got fixed on that 9800GT when I was browsing the price list. Maybe I'll go with it. :) 

Now I have to figure out how to get that extra 348 pesos. (ask mom maybe?) ^^

Thanks again.


Any other suggestions are still welcome ^^
June 3, 2009 6:55:54 AM

And btw, if i'm gonna put in a new card like the 9800GT, would i need to install a new power supply as well? (Given my current setup)

I currently have that raptor 500w something. (Can't remember the complete name)

Thanks again
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June 3, 2009 6:58:22 AM

I feel you can get the 4830 instead of that 9800GT...
The 9800GT wont fully utilize that full 1GB RAM...And the 4830 will outperform the 9800GT...
Check this out...You can see that the 4830 outperforms 8800GT O/C in most of the benchmarks and both 8800GT and 9800GT are pretty much the same...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/4830-radeon-crossfi...

And you wont have to ask your mom the extra money :p 

And you PSU should be able to handle 9800GT/ 4830...
June 3, 2009 7:06:33 AM

gkay09 said:
I feel you can get the 4830 instead of that 9800GT...
The 9800GT wont fully utilize that full 1GB RAM...And the 4830 will outperform the 9800GT...
Check this out...You can see that the 4830 outperforms 8800GT O/C in most of the benchmarks and both 8800GT and 9800GT are pretty much the same...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/4830-radeon-crossfi...

And you wont have to ask your mom the extra money :p 

And you PSU should be able to handle 9800GT/ 4830...


Hi,

Well, thing is never tried ATI graphics cards in the past. (Maybe I should) Although they actually did a demo of their Powercolor cards at the place where i'm working a few months ago, and pretty impressive in DMC4. I wasn't able to observe much to see whether the machine was using xfire (I liked the Glass enclosed PC though).

What I'm worried about is, compatibility. Would these cards be compatible with everything I have mentioned in my first post? (execpt dmc4) or will I be expecting any issues from it?

Yeah, maybe I won't ask for that extra money. :D 

Thanks
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June 3, 2009 7:12:12 AM

You wont have to worry about compatibility issues at all...
That mobo is a very good one and would have no compatibility problem with these cards...
And unlike before, ATI has come up with very good budget graphics cards, and they offer good value for the money...
You can check the reviews of the 4830 in the net...and you can see that they are considered the best value for that price range...
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June 3, 2009 7:21:06 AM

Can I ask a basic question? It sounds like you have some money to spend, and your not sure where to spend it. RAM? Video card? My question to people who ask what to upgrade is what do you want your computer to do that it doesn't? (or what does it do poorly/takes to much time?) You listed budget, you listed options, but you didn't list what is driving you crazy while you use your computer. Perhaps your gaming needs aren't high enough to warrant upgrading your 8600GT. By letting us know what you wish your computer would do we'd have a better idea of where you should spend your money.
June 3, 2009 2:32:16 PM

hundredislandsboy said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA 512-P3-N841-AR GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB

$89 after $20 rebate, lifetime warranty, free shipping! Runs about 15% faster than 9800 GT.


^Those are good cards, I have a set of the older EVGA 512-P3-N801-AR GeForce 8800GT.
June 3, 2009 2:34:48 PM

64bit os is much faster
4gb ram and 64bit is the only way to go

if you need 32bit for a printer or program and vista emulatiuon for 64bit to 32bit fails dual boot

video card is key as always - 260 is the cheap sweet spot
June 3, 2009 2:39:17 PM

hundredislandsboy said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX PVT98GYDLU GeForce 9800 GT 512MB

$99 w/ lifetime warranty
And you get CoD 4 so that's like paying $60 for this card! If you get the 9600 GT, in 3 months you will be wanting to upgrade it.


XFX cards are lame that's why they are so cheap.
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June 3, 2009 4:18:31 PM

hundredislandsboy said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX PVT98GYDLU GeForce 9800 GT 512MB

$99 w/ lifetime warranty
And you get CoD 4 so that's like paying $60 for this card! If you get the 9600 GT, in 3 months you will be wanting to upgrade it.


Wow, those are great prices. Do you think Newegg ships to the Philippines however? That is where the OP lives. If they do thats great, if they don't, you shouldn't have dangled things in front of him that he couldn't buy.
June 4, 2009 1:36:35 AM

4745454b said:
Can I ask a basic question? It sounds like you have some money to spend, and your not sure where to spend it. RAM? Video card? My question to people who ask what to upgrade is what do you want your computer to do that it doesn't? (or what does it do poorly/takes to much time?) You listed budget, you listed options, but you didn't list what is driving you crazy while you use your computer. Perhaps your gaming needs aren't high enough to warrant upgrading your 8600GT. By letting us know what you wish your computer would do we'd have a better idea of where you should spend your money.


Hi,

You have a good point there. Well, okay. The main thing about my current setup is that, I can't play my games at the highest possible resolution for my screen (1280 x 1024). When I say I can't play, it means that I don't like the frame rate even if some people would say its playable. I was really disappointed with the 8600GT from that point of view. To put it in simple words, I want better graphics, but i'm not willing to spend too much money on it since i'm just a casual gamer and i'm not really into the very high-end games.

BTW, I've narrowed down my choices.

Now I'm thinking of getting either the 9600GT 1GB 256 bit or that Radeon HD4830 512MB 256 bit. They're almost the same price anyway.

Okay for another thing, the other reason I'm upgrading is because a few of my friends just bought new pc's (quad cores to be exact) with 9600GT's. Now, i know this may be a little off topic but i think its still relevant as far as my first post is concerned. I just want to be at par (or at least, not be behind) with these guys. I know of course that I only have this(my setup) and as much as i want to, reality is that i'm beat by those things and there's nothing i can do but try to be as close as possible. That is why i'm trying to make sure of this decision. I don't want to end up being laughed at coz i bought the wrong card. It's actually a risk for me. So i'm betting on the experts here to help me make my decision instead of just listening to what my friends have to say.

I hope you're getting my point. I know it sounds a little stupid but...

Thanks

BTW, a friend of mine recommended that i invest in an HD4870. I looked it up the pricelist and its more than twice the price of the hd4830/9600GT

Is it worth it then?

Thanks again
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June 4, 2009 2:03:47 AM

starams5 said:
XFX cards are lame that's why they are so cheap.


wtf u talking about? XFX has the best warranties. They are tied with EVGA for being the best Nvidia card manufacturer.
June 4, 2009 2:08:06 AM

I meant just wtf I said, they're lame. I had one blow a couple of years ago, sounded like a bomb. None of my EVGA cards ever blew up or been RMAed.
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June 4, 2009 9:03:23 AM

It sounds like your just trying to keep up with your friends. Thats great, if you have enough money to do that. If you don't, your going to go broke trying. Better video card will provide better frame rates, so if you TRUELY aren't happy with what you have, you should get another one. (did you ever list system specs? You might have a different bottleneck then the GPU)

If the 4380 is in your price range, get it. Its better then the other cards you've listed. Yes the 4870/4890 are great cards, but they cost to much. (for you)
June 4, 2009 5:44:25 PM

The 4870 is a really, really good card and well worth the money, but maybe not for you. It's probably more than you need. Also, it may require a power supply upgrade. I'm not sure, maybe someone else can verify.

I would recommend the 4830 as well.

Also, I would recommend against spending the money on Mirror's Edge. The reviews I read said that the game was not that good. There are much better choices out there.
June 4, 2009 6:47:14 PM

my vote goes for the 4830...seems like it hits your sweet spot...right in your price range and will definitely handle the games you play at 1280x1024...you might want to check if your current PSU meets the requirements for the 4830...
June 9, 2009 10:10:29 AM

Thanks so much for all the advice.

Now i'm thinking of getting the 4830. Seems like its the best buy i can get. Although right now, i'm actually reading about the hd4770. From what i've read its another good card.

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June 9, 2009 11:43:42 AM

The 4770 is a better card then the 4830. If you can afford it, the 4770 is a better buy. Other options to consider are the 9800GT, and the 9800GTX. Personally I would buy whichever is the cheaper of these options.
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