advice on new gaming build ~$800

hi guys.
this will be my first gaming pc build and need your advice on parts for around $800.
i would like the cpu to be able to OC to 4ghz and with a ati 4870 gpu.

thanks for your help in advance

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  1. You need to provide a little more info in order to get any meaningful advice. What does the budget include? Monitor, keyboard, OS? If you already have a monitor, what resolution does it run at? What will the computer be used for other than gaming?
  2. Why does it have to be 4GHz? Because it's a nice round number?

    Do you play FSX or GTA4?
  3. sorry for the lack of info.
    i do not need a moniter or OS. no keyboard or mouse necessary in this budget as well. mostly for gaming, the rest would include music, movies, internet.

    OC more then 3.7ghz would be nice :p
  4. Do you have a 64-bit OS? You will need a 64-bit OS to fully use 4GB of RAM.

    What resolution does your monitor run at?
  5. yes i do have a 64bit OS. my max resolution is 1900x1200
  6. Do you prefer cases with lots of bling or something without lights?
  7. i was looking at the antec 900. but the 300 will do fine as well.
  8. The HD 4870 is a good choice here but make sure it's the 1GB version, not the 512MB. Also, be prepared to add a second one later if needed.

    I'd suggest something like this:
    E8500 $188
    GA-EP45-UD3P $115

    Xigmatek Dark Knight $40
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233029

    Corsair 750TX $110

    RC-690 $80

    RAM: 4GB $45
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209&Tpk=G.Skill%20PI%20DDR2-800

    Sapphire HD 4870 1GB $215
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102801

    The total should be about $800.
  9. Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037 $164.99

    GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358&cm_sp=DailyDeal-_-13-128-358-_-Homepage&guid=28e23a828ae049b990b0a9ec48cbc426 $134.99 - $20.00 MIR

    G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209 $44.99

    SAPPHIRE 100243-1GTXSR Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102815 $219.99

    Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319 $79.99

    CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006&Tpk=750TX $129.99 - $20.00 MIR

    Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042&Tpk=antec%20300 $59.95

    XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233029 $39.99

    Total - $874.88 - $40 MIR's


    Edit: aevm beat me to it! :)
  10. thx alot for both of your input.
  11. i was also taking a look at the 4830s. will 2 of those in CF mode do better then the 4870 1gb?
  12. LOL, my build didn't have a hard drive...

    If you need a DVD, this one is good.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136152
  13. feraldiablo said:
    i was also taking a look at the 4830s. will 2 of those in CF mode do better then the 4870 1gb?


    Bad idea, because then that's it, you won't have any way to add more graphics power.
    I'll try to find you some benchmarks, but TBH I wouldn't recommend it even if it is faster.
  14. OK, found a chart. Yes, two HD 4830 cards are faster than a single HD 4870.
    http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=16300&page=6
    http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=16300&page=7

    They can handle CoD, CoH, GRID and Quake Wars extremely well at 1920x1200, i.e. over 60 fps. What's over 60 fps is wasted anyway because the monitor will refresh at 60Hz and throw out any extra frames.

    The problem is, what if you get a game where the two HD 4830 aren't doing so well...
  15. you mentioned i could get a second 4870 1gb. will 2 of those in CF fit in the antec 300?
  16. Yes, kind of. An RC-690 would be better, but it's $20 more.

    Here's a quote from a newegg reviewer:


    Quote:

    Rating + 4Rating + 4Rating + 4Rating + 4Rating + 4 Great case, but check measurements

    Pros: - Plenty of options for case cooling. I've got 4 disks in a RAID5, and dual 4870's in CrossFire. Cooling is good.
    - Decent area for tucking spare cable lengths
    - Case opens easily, which I like because I'm always futzing with something.
    - Good construction
    - Very affordable for the quality, making this a great case.

    Cons: - Front panel jacks are above drive bays, meaning cables plugged into the front may interfere with opening your DVD drive(s). Not a killer problem, but annoying.
    - The cable for the front panel audio had to stretch "kitty-corner" to reach the Mobo connector on my P5Q3. Sure would have liked to route it cleanly.
    - Not really a con, but where's the rubber mounts for disk drives, and silicon mounts for fans? I've been spoiled by the Antec Sonata, and was hoping the 300 had those features too. Oh well.

    Other Thoughts: - Space is tight for certain HW combinations. I had a hard time fitting 4 hard drives in with dual HIS Radeon HD 4870 boards. The boards were long enough that their power connectors prevented drive placement in two bays. And the HIS boards were wide enough that I was not able to use one of my Mobo's 6 SATA connectors. I think a right-angle SATA connector would work, but I had to use the only one I have to connect my last drive that was crammed up against a video board. Still, I managed to fit it all in there okay.
    - Another thing to think about... this case is designed to have the PSU on the bottom, and many Mobos (like the P5Q3 I bought) have connector placements that favor a PSU at the top of the chassis. So, I had to connect my 12-pin EATX lead by running it over my video boards, since the Antec SG850 PSU lead wasn't long enough to route around. I didn't bother to try extensions though - it works. *shrug*
  17. how about the psu? will it be enough for the 4870 in CF?
  18. The 750TX? Yes. You need 650W and 4 PCI-E connectors, according to Sapphire specs. It has 750W and 4 PCI-E connectors.
  19. Yes. That's an even better PSU than the 750TX. I got one myself :)
  20. Get a 720 BE based pc and you'll save $50 on your mobo and cpu alone which you could use towards an antec 900/900-2
  21. actually i'm thinking of selling my lappy and i'll have at least an extra $400 to spend on this pc. =)
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