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Does BIOSTAR NF4UL-A9 CPU support AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+?

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June 4, 2009 3:59:03 AM

Thank you for your time,
I currently have a BIOSTAR NF4UL-A9 motherboard that supports AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+,



I currently have an AMD Athlon 64 3000+, it's doesn't have the dual core. My wife likes using Pinnacle Studio 12 (very slow, CPU usage at 100% all the time), and that from everything I've read Pinnacle Studio utilizes the dual core instruction set.

I would like to purchase the AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+, but I'm not sure if this motherboard will support the higher processor speeds. I would hate to buy a CPU just to test it out and see if it works.

If anyone could help fill in the blanks for me, suggest a better processor, or even confirm or validate my thinking it would be much appreciated.

I've searched the Internet and found very little to confirm whether the AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ will work for me, I'm hoping it's just common knowledge that it will work.

Thanks again,
Andy
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June 4, 2009 6:33:26 AM

Nooooooooo

That board is a socket 939 board while the 6400 is a socket AM2 CPU. Sorry but your options are limited with a 939 board. Even though early AM2 CPUs still had a DDR controller AMD did not see fit to make AM2 CPUs backwards compatible with 939 boards. Thankfully AM3 CPUs are backwards compatible with AM2 boards.

Anyway looks like you're going to need to do a bit of an upgrade including new RAM, CPU and motherboard. It's too expensive to try and get a dual core for a 939 board when you can get a new board, ram, and CPU for less, honestly I'm not kidding. Anyway if you want something cheap and reliable I say go with

ASRock A780GMH/128M $71.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400 Brisbane $58.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The 7750 runs alot warmer but offers slightly better performance. I say get it if there is a good combo with it, but otherwise go with the 5400 because it's easier to keep cool

WINTEC AMPO 2GB (2 x 1GB) $21.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And there you go, a $152.97 upgrade. Trying to get a dual core 4400X2 or 4800X2 for socket 939 will probably cost you more than that. The 5400 BE can easily be overclocked to 3.1, even with the stock cooler, to offer near 6000+ performance. Again you could also go with the kuma 7750, but I really recommend an aftermarket cooler for that one if you overclock it.
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June 4, 2009 7:48:12 AM

Yea sticking $100 or more into a dead end board like that is just a waste when for a bit more you can get a more up to date and more easily upgraded system. I would go with the 7750. Faster chip for sure. Also you can get the same board I have for $75 shipped via open box on newegg right now. That is how I got mine. Been doing great for me. :D 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



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June 4, 2009 6:27:29 PM

Quote:
Dont buy open box mobo's. Do a cpu/mobo combo on Newegg.



There is nothing wrong with open box. You still get manufacturer warranty and you get the item for much less. I will not argue though that if you can find a sweet combo deal go for that. For how I purchased my CPU/Motherboard, open box was a better deal for me. I got a too good to pass up deal on the CPU from someone I know so the open box board was a great deal for me.
June 4, 2009 6:45:03 PM

What about just using the AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ processor that this motherboard supports. This processor is dual core, right?

The key here is Pinnacle Studio suggest just jumping into a dual processor really improves performance.

I really want to wait until Windows 7 is released before I do a full upgrade.

Thanks for the information about the new boards and the AMD 6400.
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June 4, 2009 7:45:49 PM

The price of a socket 939 X2 4800+ would be equal to or higher than just doing the upgrade megaman suggested even with a 7750BE. That way you have a bit up future upgrade room. S939 is a long dead socket and cost of upgrading is high. Though not the best components here is a pretty good deal as well. Especially when you factor in the MIR's

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
June 4, 2009 9:40:15 PM

Yes, you guys are right. I now need a sata 1tb harddrive to go with this. :lol: 
June 5, 2009 4:22:41 AM

I knew this was going to happen :kaola: 
I might as well just buy the system I want!

Motherboard $75
BIOSTAR TFORCE TA790GX 128M AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138130R
Open box is still a question mark!

Processor $110
AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Calisto 3.1GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor Model HDZ550WFGIBOX - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103680
I might as well buy what the motherboard can handle. Do I really need a quad core? :pt1cable: 

Memory $45
Patriot Viper 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PVS24G8500ELKN - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220334
I'm not sure if 1066 will eliminate any bottlenecks?

Video cards, I hate fans on them, it's always the first thing to go out :fou:  Maybe a bad decision because swapping out video cards sometimes means reinstalling the OS.
I don't follow the spec's on them, so I may just stick with the onboard video of ATI Radeon HD 3300

Hard Drive $90
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31000333AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148373

Any thoughts on how this stuff would work together?

OR the combo deal
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.194774


Minus the hard drive, for the combo deal offered at around $150 vs. this upgrade to $230, is it worth it short-term and long-term?


Is it me, or does newegg always compete on pricing!

Thanks again for support,

Andy
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June 5, 2009 5:12:24 PM

That combo is O.k. The 3650 isn't that great, but if you're not gaming with the system I wouldn't worry about it. While you can overclock the 5200 to 3.0-3.2 with the stock cooler (depending on your sample and case ventelation), the Phenom II 550 would still be faster. Also, the Phenom II 550 approaches 4Ghz (depending on your sample :)  when overclocking and is easy to overclock due to the unlocked multiplier.
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