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March 29, 2009 12:19:12 PM

Hi all,


i have a smal (well not sure tbh :(  problem)). when im playing a game (COD WAW, bf2, crysis, FC2 or any other) my FPS are always around 30-60 to 90FPS. now im not sure if its a CPU bottle neck or a GPU problem.


my specs:

Intel Core 2 quad Q6600 65NM G0 @ 2.4 ghz gonna try it @ 3.5 Ghz
Asus maximus Formula
Team Xtreem Dark 800 mhz 4 gig
Asus EAH4870X2 TOP 2 gig GDDR5 both cores : GPU 800Mhz memory 1000Mhz tested @ stock and the OC
Corsair XT750W
Scythe Mugen CPU cooler
Windows XP pro 32 bit
LG FLatron wide 20.1" (1680*1050) main screen
Acer AL1717 17" (1280*1024) secondary screen


might it be the CPU beeing a bottle neck that im beter of whit a Q9550 @ 2.83 or higher?


btw how big is the fabracation proces of Q9550 only 45NM ?

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March 29, 2009 2:16:59 PM

if i would place a Intel Core™ 2 Quad Q9650 3,00 GHz would it be any beter?
March 29, 2009 3:20:23 PM

well i can expect soem thing beter out of X2 or not ? i personly think that a 4870X2 can preform more then 100 FPS in bf2, my little brother has the 4870 512MB znd he easy shoots over 150FPS ...
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March 29, 2009 6:38:42 PM

run the benchmark to compare the results
my results farcry2 benchmark small ranch 1680x1050 4xAA ultrahigh

system q6600@3,2 GTX295
March 30, 2009 8:07:31 PM

What's his specs and settings?
here ya go


Cooler Master Real Power M850,Retail, 850Watt
Asus P5E,Retai
Asus DVDRW SATA 20x DRW-2014L1T Retail sw/sil
Samsung SpinPoint F1
HIS Radeon HD4870,512MB, GDDR5,
G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ,4096MB, 1000MHz, DDR2, PC8000, 2x
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550,Boxed, Q9550, Socket 775
March 30, 2009 8:22:05 PM

ill install FC2 and run the bench (the bench in on the DVD??)
March 31, 2009 4:35:24 PM

would be od if the card causes its own problem ...
March 31, 2009 5:07:51 PM

Here is the bench

* Total Frames: 9814, Total Time: 150,00s
* Average Framerate: 65,43
* Max. Framerate: 126,92 (Frame:1732, 16,54s)
* Min. Framerate: 19,20 (Frame:8330, 123,38s)



* Total Frames: 9826, Total Time: 150,00s
* Average Framerate: 65,51
* Max. Framerate: 130,33 (Frame:1725, 16,67s)
* Min. Framerate: 27,06 (Frame:8359, 124,28s)



* Total Frames: 9861, Total Time: 150,01s
* Average Framerate: 65,74
* Max. Framerate: 137,76 (Frame:0, 0,01s)
* Min. Framerate: 33,48 (Frame:8253, 120,78s)



average


* Average Framerate: 65,56
* Max. Framerate: 130,03
* Min. Framerate: 28,37


settings:


1680*1050 @ 60Hz
AA 8x

Fire very high
Physics very high
real tree's very high

vegetation very high
shading very high
terrain very high
geometry very high
Post FX high

texture very high
shadow very high
ambient high

HDR On
Bloom On
March 31, 2009 5:15:02 PM

some how i cant edit so ill have to repost my pics


run 1 loop 1


run 1 loop 2


run 1 loop 3


run 1 average
March 31, 2009 5:26:51 PM

o lolz i t was the medium, ill run the small. 1 loop ?
March 31, 2009 5:39:22 PM

same settings : small ranch

Settings: Demo(Ranch Small), 1680x1050 (60Hz), D3D9, Fixed Time Step(No), Disable Artificial Intelligence(No), Full Screen, Anti-Aliasing(8x), VSync(No), Overall Quality(Optimal), Vegetation(Very High), Shading(Very High), Terrain(Very High), Geometry(Very High), Post FX(High), Texture(Very High), Shadow(Very High), Ambient(High), Hdr(Yes), Bloom(Yes), Fire(Very High), Physics(Very High), RealTrees(Very High)



Run 1 loop 1
* Total Frames: 1999, Total Time: 51,01s
* Average Framerate: 39,19
* Max. Framerate: 68,34 (Frame:319, 6,17s)
* Min. Framerate: 23,98 (Frame:1597, 41,95s)



run 1 loop 2

* Total Frames: 1985, Total Time: 51,05s
* Average Framerate: 38,89
* Max. Framerate: 68,90 (Frame:325, 6,14s)
* Min. Framerate: 26,15 (Frame:1515, 39,41s)



run 1 loop 3

* Total Frames: 1985, Total Time: 51,02s
* Average Framerate: 38,90
* Max. Framerate: 68,65 (Frame:330, 6,25s)
* Min. Framerate: 23,79 (Frame:1577, 41,19s)



run 1 Average

* Average Framerate: 38,99
* Max. Framerate: 68,18
* Min. Framerate: 25,64




here ya go
March 31, 2009 5:51:23 PM

o btw it might be irrelevant but i had 2 BSOD's sunday


MACHINE_CHECK_EXEPTION
Stop 0x000009C (0X0000000 0XBA33C05 0XF2000840 0X00000800)
March 31, 2009 6:06:49 PM

is that worrying for me or you ?
March 31, 2009 7:48:45 PM

ok, so it all running fine :) , i thought deu to the performce of a X2 it was not realy good but according you its normal
March 31, 2009 7:52:37 PM

no bottlenecking there.
March 31, 2009 7:54:14 PM

hope not for ya, its looking like a nice setup :) 


thanks for the help :) 
April 1, 2009 7:24:45 AM

Your benchmarks are very low surly is not fine.
April 1, 2009 7:44:42 AM

well, cna you show me what it needs to be ?
April 1, 2009 11:08:01 AM

For example a system:
Q9550 Quad @ 3.8ghz 4870x2 Catalyst 8-10
small ranch 1920*1200 4xAA ultra high avg 61 min 44

ice_killer
small ranch 1680*1050 8xAA very high avg 39 min 24
surly something wrong is going on.
April 1, 2009 1:24:04 PM

Quote:
You are a fool.

Please explain how using different settings, at different res with a cpu clocked 1.2ghz higher is any comparison, even with FC2 looking more gpu limited than cpu, it is useless.


Q9550 Quad @ 3.8ghz 4870x2 Catalyst 8-10
small ranch 1920*1200 4xAA ultra high avg 61 min 44

Cleary you see that (1920*1200 4xAA ultra high) is higher settings than (1680*1050 8xAA very high)
if the cpu is 3.0 or 3.8 doesn’t rally mater

ice_killer
small ranch 1680*1050 8xAA very high avg 39 min 24
surly something wrong is going on.

39fps is very low for a 4870x2.
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