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March 5, 2009 2:13:31 AM

Hey guys I'm trying to do a build for my friend. He will use the computer for gaming (fps / rts) and regular school work. The budget for the build is around $750 in canadian dollars after adding taxes and shipping.

I'm looking for any input from you guys that would make this build better while still keeping the price capped at around $750. The website i'm using is Newegg's canadian site (www.newegg.ca). This is the build so far:

CPU - [Core 2 Duo E8400]
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Memory - [OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800]
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Hard Drive - [Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB]
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Video Card - [ATI Radeon HD 4830 512MB]
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Motherboard - [ASUS P5Q SE PLUS LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX]
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Case & Power Supply - [Broadway Com Corp 939PL-BLACK Steel ATX Mid Tower - Okia ATX 550W Power Supply]
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

In order to calculate the tax and shipping to my address you can use "L3S2C1"

Thanks guys!

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March 5, 2009 3:14:25 AM

As for the RAM check this out..
A-DATA---has lot of gud reviews than the memory u have chosen...and lil cheaper...
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
But if u don want to go wit it, then change the RAM to OCZ gold or G Skillz, better than the ones u have listed...

But the main concern here is the PSU u have listed..ya i knw it comes wit the case...but still nt very reliable...

U can skimp on a cheaper case but get a gud quality PSU like the corsair, coolermaster or antec or PC&P...
The corsair CX400 will be grt for this setup...
March 5, 2009 4:03:34 AM

Move your FSB to (9.5 x 333) and run that cpu to 3.16Ghz @ 1333 FSB. Case runs 3x120mm fans, side vents / decent airflow/room

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $112.49
COOLER MASTER Centurion 534 RC-534-KKRB-GP Black Aluminum & Mesh bezel / SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 460W Power Supply - Retail

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683... $6.49
MASSCOOL FD12025S1L3/4 120mm Case Fan - Retail

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $99.99 Free Shipping*
GIGABYTE GA-EP43-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $149.99
Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 Wolfdale 2.8GHz 3MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $57.49 Free Shipping*
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $26.99
LITE-ON Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA 22X DVD Burner - OEM

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $75.49
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $112.49 (Before $10.00 USD Mail-In Rebate)
SAPPHIRE 100265L Radeon HD 4830 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

Total: $641.42 CAD (not including shipping and rebates)

Additional Items

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683... $37.49
ASUS V72 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - Retail

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=26895&vpn=MX-2T&... $9.99
Arctic Cooling MX-2 Thermal Compound Paste NON-ELECTRICAL Conductive 4 Gram
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March 5, 2009 4:23:11 AM

Why_me thats a very good build but he doesn't want to spend that much because after 13% tax and shipping it comes out to a total of about $890

gkay09: ok great that memory looks good. Your right about the psu as thats my biggest concern also but i was having trouble finding a combination that would keep me withing the price limit. The cx400 is about 75 by itself and then i still have to get a case. Did you see any combo that might work while keeping the total cost close to the same?
March 5, 2009 4:52:40 AM

tvguide123 said:
Why_me thats a very good build but he doesn't want to spend that much because after 13% tax and shipping it comes out to a total of about $890

gkay09: ok great that memory looks good. Your right about the psu as thats my biggest concern also but i was having trouble finding a combination that would keep me withing the price limit. The cx400 is about 75 by itself and then i still have to get a case. Did you see any combo that might work while keeping the total cost close to the same?


Ok, I changed that build I did up above. I put the 4830 vid card you had, and I switched out the psu for a combo. The case is the same, only it's black.

On another note, that memory have have chosen isn't so good. Go with the Gskill. It's plug and play and it has better timings than that OCZ you chose.

Case and PSU...those are about the only flaws in your build. The psu is junk, and so is that case. The case has zero fans, and about zero airflow...it's going to be an oven once that build is up and running....microwave is more like it. Sans the reason it's so cheap.

The cpu you have is a good one, but it's over kill for that build...price vs performance. This E7400 will clock right up there with the best of them...try that very mild overclock I mentioned in my above post...you won't have to add an aftermarket heatsink with that clock, and you will get more for your money with that chip. Even at stock though it won't bottle neck that vid card.
March 5, 2009 4:59:40 AM

Well u can try the cooler master extreme power 460W or 500W...costs abt $44 for the 460 and abt $50 for the 500W...though nt as gud as the corsair but better than the one that u have listed...so search around and get a case for around $30...so for abt $75 odd u will get a better PSU but nt sure abt the case...
March 5, 2009 5:02:39 AM

gkay09 said:
Well u can try the cooler master extreme power 460W or 500W...costs abt $44 for the 460 and abt $50 for the 500W...though nt as gud as the corsair but better than the one that u have listed...so search around and get a case for around $30...so for abt $75 odd u will get a better PSU but nt sure abt the case...


:hello: 

That's a Coolermaster Xtreme 460w that's in my build. It's a combo deal so the buyer gets a discount on both the case and psu.
March 5, 2009 5:08:14 AM

Well he doesnt want to go more on his budget so mayb instead of a coolermaster combo , he can stick wit the PSU and a cheaper case...
March 5, 2009 5:12:06 AM

gkay09 said:
Well he doesnt want to go more on his budget so mayb instead of a coolermaster combo , he can stick wit the PSU and a cheaper case...


Good point. :) 

Infact after looking up the prices of that psu and that case...that combo is no deal at all. :( 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... <---cheaper case with decent cooling...just add another 120mm fan to it. Pair it up with that coolermaster psu and it knocks off almost $40 off the build price.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... <---psu
March 5, 2009 5:13:23 AM

hey just a thought if ur frnd doesnt mind abt the processor, then u can look into AMD builds...costs less and wit the saved mondy u can get a better GFX card ,and a better PSU....well jus an idea...
March 5, 2009 1:55:21 PM

i agree you can get a good triple core AMD processor for 100 bucks cheaper. clockspeed does not matter as much anymore with these multicore CPU's
March 5, 2009 11:37:29 PM

Alright I have a question. How do you know that power supply in my original case is not almost as good as

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Besides that point how about this:


CPU - [Core 2 Duo E8400] - $209.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Memory - [A-DATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800] - $49.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Hard Drive - [Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB] - $75.49
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Video Card - [ATI Radeon HD 4830 512MB] $112.49
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Case - [COOLER MASTER Elite 330 RC-330] $44.49
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Power Supply - [COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus 460W] - $43.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Motherboard - [GIGABYTE GA-EP43-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX] - $99.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Total = $636.43
Tax(13%) = $82.74
Shipping = $51.30

Grand Total = $770.47

I don't mind going with an amd based system if you have any suggestions but I dont know much about good cpu / mb for amd cpus.
However if this setup is ok, is there another option for the motherboard because this model is out of stock or should i just wait?
March 6, 2009 12:32:25 PM

Ok guys I used some of your earlier recommendations for the intel system and switched the cpu, mobo, and video card(4830 to 4850). I heard the XII 720BE is very good because you can oc it easily but would 710 be fine for this build since we dont intend to do much oc'ing.

Also, in the reviews on newegg for the mb, some people were saying that it was missing screws. I've only build one system before this so im not sure if they are talking about the screws you screw into the brass standoffs on your case...?

Which system would you guys recommend between these two and do you guys have any other recommendations? Thanks a bunch for you help everyone, i came to this forum when I was doing my first build also :) 

CPU - [AMD Phenom II X3 710 2.6GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Processor Model HDX710WFGIBOX - Retail ] - $149.49
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Memory - [A-DATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800] - $49.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Hard Drive - [Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB] - $75.49
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Video Card - [SAPPHIRE 100245L Radeon HD 4850 512MB ] $181.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Case - [COOLER MASTER Elite 330 RC-330] $44.49
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Power Supply - [COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus 460W] - $43.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Motherboard - [ASUS M3A78 AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail ] - $99.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Total = $645.43
Tax(13%) = $84.06
Shipping = $51.30

Grand Total = $780.79
March 7, 2009 5:04:07 PM

Buy from ncix.com. No PST, they will price match (use pricecanada & shopbot.ca to find lowest prices) and if you add a $10 gift card you receive free ground shipping.
March 7, 2009 5:17:49 PM

to answer the PSU question, the lower the price of the psu the lower the quality of the components. If the psu is rated at say 650w, but in reality the components can only handle upto 400w 24/7 then using it in a pc which needs those extra watts will eventually kill the psu and thus other pc components.

Get why cheap PSU's aren't recommended now?

Also the AMD build is better however ask him if he plans to crossfire in the future because if he does then get him a 4830 to save him some cash because 4830's in CF beat 4850's in CF.
March 7, 2009 8:12:36 PM

Thanks for clearing that up Helloworld i was always confused about that. And no he doesnt plan to use crossfire. So should i go ahead and order the amd system? :)  !!
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