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Sparkle GTX 275 listed in Euroland

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March 29, 2009 8:47:57 PM

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a b U Graphics card
March 29, 2009 10:31:11 PM

Fud still plugging that old line that it will be faster than a 4890 lol.
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March 29, 2009 10:42:50 PM

Yeah fud doesn't know what they are talking about, why do they have a website....we should shut em down.

Anyways.

March 29, 2009 10:50:44 PM

I think it will be the common scenario of "wins in some games, loses in others". I doubt either card will have a significant advantage over the other.

Like I said in that other long thread, the only reason Nvidia is doing this 275 is because they know what the 4890 is going to do. They arent going to make a card based on pure guesswork since they already have too many models on the market.....they know.
March 29, 2009 10:55:50 PM

they need to compliment sli singles with GX2 cards. Thats the single thing their setup is missing over the ATi's, Other than 4 physical cards. so many ways to setup it up.

But see this is why I liked the ATI approach, same card, based on a different board. 4870 X2 is a 4870 1 gig x's 2 (not performance wise), and they can combined, while 9800 GX2 for example is not a 8800 GTS, its not a 9800 GTX, its not a 9800 GT or w.e card, So it can't be combined. Hopefully this card 275 GTX, might benefit from that, but I HIGHLY doubt it, since the tech isn't implemented.
a b U Graphics card
March 29, 2009 11:24:06 PM

No, you need to buy a nVidia tri sli board, dincha know?
March 29, 2009 11:26:03 PM

hmmm, no I know, I'm saying to sli a 275 with a 295 GTX. Thats not possible, that would benefit.

Just like a 4870 1 gig can be crossfired with 4870 X2. Thats what I meant:) 

They need to do what ATI did, 4 physical cards, an X2 and a single....etc.
a b U Graphics card
March 29, 2009 11:27:22 PM

L1qu1d said:
Yeah fud doesn't know what they are talking about, why do they have a website....we should shut em down.

Anyways.


Anyone can have a website liquid.

Is the 4750 on the same level as the 9600? FUD thinks so. However, it doesnt matter how many times they repeat that the 275 is gonna be faster than the 4890 when it's just not going to be.
a b U Graphics card
March 29, 2009 11:40:43 PM

Ill say this. If the 275 is better than the 4890, then thatll end the 285 right there. Itll be so close, closer than the 260 to 280, and we all know the 260 was the seller of those 2 by wide margins, not sure what nVidia "knows"
March 30, 2009 12:00:58 AM

jennyh said:
Anyone can have a website liquid.

Is the 4750 on the same level as the 9600? FUD thinks so. However, it doesnt matter how many times they repeat that the 275 is gonna be faster than the 4890 when it's just not going to be.


Yes ur right, but credibility and reliability isn't achieved just by any1. I follow what websites say, you follow what you think.

thats the difference. :hello: 
a b U Graphics card
March 30, 2009 12:06:26 AM

L1qu1d, read my post. If FUaDs right, where does the 275 put the 285? Theyre effectively devouring their 285 sales with such a card. And even then, will it be enough?
March 30, 2009 12:17:24 AM

how, even with the clock it still doesn't match the 285 GTX. They will just need to lower the 285 prices. I mean you can already find a 285 GTX for 300-325$.

We don't know if the 4890 will even fall between the 280 and 285, with OC it might, and the 275 GTX still won't match the bus width, and the RAm amout, so it will always be lagging behind the 285 GTX, and in some cases the 280 GTX.
a b U Graphics card
March 30, 2009 12:28:07 AM

But thats my point. If you think itll mostly be better than the 280, it brings its perf alot closer than the 260 was to the 280. The 4890 perf will be a larger jump from 4870 than the 285 was from the 280, so, if youre right, the 275 will be extremly close to the 285, with the 4890 right below the two, at the same price, or equal to the 275 trading blows with it. nThats just not a pretty picture for the 285 no matter how you slice it
a b U Graphics card
March 30, 2009 12:29:20 AM

L1qu1d said:
how, even with the clock it still doesn't match the 285 GTX. They will just need to lower the 285 prices. I mean you can already find a 285 GTX for 300-325$.

We don't know if the 4890 will even fall between the 280 and 285, with OC it might, and the 275 GTX still won't match the bus width, and the RAm amout, so it will always be lagging behind the 285 GTX, and in some cases the 280 GTX.


Exactly.

Where are all these good chips coming from? Do you think that every huge g200 that leaves nvidia's fabs is good enough to be a 285gtx? Put it this way - the 285's are like intel extreme editions cpu's. The yeilds aren't quite so bad, but the *majority* of chips that leave nvidias fabs are not good enough to end up as 285's.

So, given the choice - what do you think Nvidia would do? Sell you a cheaper version of the 285 with lower memory bus and RAM? That is just going to hurt 285 sales. Why do you think you've been reading about the 275's being higher clocked 260's recently?

Nvidia doesn't have the yeilds, it doesn't have the tech to mass produce what they would like to. And more importantly, they don't have the money to burn on a card that has no place on the market.
March 30, 2009 12:59:30 AM

Again thats just an theory:) 

The 275 still won't live up to what the 280 GTX is even, because of the lower bus width and lower Vram.

a couple of more days, and I'll be admitting I was wrong, or just bathing in my glory:)  Either way I'll be learning something

We'll leave it till then.
March 30, 2009 1:30:15 AM

People are getting so worked up over cards that are only there to fill a gap in the market and wont actually be worth the money. I don't give a damn whether the 4890 can match a GTX 280 or not, the 4870 1GB is still a much better deal. $200 or less for a card that can max out over 98% of all games at common, high resolutions is all we really need and we have 2, 4870 and GTX 260.
a b U Graphics card
March 30, 2009 1:34:15 AM

Yeah, who needs a i7 either. Im not hyped by this, its just good to see progress, at least on 1 side anyways
March 30, 2009 1:46:51 AM

i7 is the top performing CPU, an 4890 or GTX 275 will not be the top performing GPU, that is the difference. I'm just saying to calm yourself, these GPUs will be interesting but it is nothing to argue over.
March 30, 2009 1:56:05 AM

Cant say it any better than Raven. Besides, I already own a GTX 285 so this means nothing to me.
a b U Graphics card
March 30, 2009 2:05:45 AM

Its all relative. Im liking the 4890, as it will also be ATIs fastest card. I hear ya. This aint my first chicken pluckin, I know how to snap a few necks. Like Ive already said, its like the 1950 or the 7950, just a thing theyve always done, good to see progress, and alot of people will get these, even if theyre only a slight bump, just like L1qu1d going from a 280 to a 285. Its not as if no one will buy these cards.
These cards are for the cutting edge people or someone ready to buy now, no biggie, but at least for ATI, its more than we had
March 30, 2009 2:19:34 AM

No I agree JDJ, I'm a bit excited about the 4890 as well. Hell if it CAN match a GTX 280 it will be quite interesting, though I have not heard whether they will do a 4890 X2 or not yet, 4870 X2s CAN overclock so it is not impossible. The GTX 275 seems redundant to me as all it will do is give a competitor to one of ATIs cards that has no other use than being ATIs fastest single card, though if you could SLI it with a GTX 295, like L1qu1d suggested, I'll be impressed.
March 30, 2009 3:00:22 AM

i think the 275 will be slightly faster than the 4890 @ st6ock speeds...
however, the 4890 will have bigger overclocking capabilities and even when the gtx 275 can also overclock, i think the 4890 will do it better and outperform it...

IMO OC 4890> OC GTX275