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MB: MSI K9NGM4
AMD Phenom 8650, Triple core processor 2.30GHz
3.25 GB of RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
OS: Windows XP SP2 on SATA drive
DVD/CD-ROM on IDE master
second HDD for additional storage on IDE Slave (I know, I know)
USB cordless mouse, etc., etc.

 

For some weeks I have been experiencing the following issues:

 

Graphics card will not be detected (fan spins, but no signal to the monitor) so I need to use the integrated graphics, no fun for gaming.

 

Graphics card is detected, and then will run fine for days and then back to not being detected again.

 

IDE master and slave not detected (both in the BIOS and the devise manager).

 

The above drives are detected and will work fine, as with the graphics card, after some re-boots they are mysteriously not detected again.

 

CHKDSK always runs on the secondary drive (which has 2 partitions, so E and F).

 

Everything will be working fine, then the USB mouse will freeze up requiring a restart after which I usually experience the above problems, which eventually right themselves.

 

Systems hangs while posting (I think) on “initializing USB controllers” sometimes for 20-30 minutes, sometimes for a few seconds, other times not at all.

 

I didn't build this system, but it did work well for about a year without any trouble, per the above configuration. I added the secondary drive and have un-installed and re-installed the graphics card many times and researched the various issues to death.

 

I never know if a re-boot is going to be clean, when it is great, when it isn't I need to go back to on-board graphics and may be without a couple of drive.

 

Question(s):

 

Is the motherboard shot?

 

Is there a hardware diagnostic tool (for a noob like me) I can run to test the various components?

 

Any sage advise is appreciated.


Message edited by sndlwood on 08-18-2009 at 12:50:44 AM
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What PSU are you using?

Reply to GhislainG

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2.30GHz of RAM



I found your problem, your hitting the bong too many times per hour.

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Message edited by zipzoomflyhigh on 08-17-2009 at 07:37:06 PM
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zipzoomflyhigh wrote :

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2.30GHz of RAM



I found your problem, your hitting the bong too many times per hour.



Oh, haha ...bong. Ya, that's not the problem

3.25 GB of RAM

Sorry, I was so excited about getting some help with this issue I didn't read my specs clearly.

I don't think it's the PSU, it was upgraded for the card. It's an ORION, the model number is hard to see.

Reply to sndlwood
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See if there is a motherboard bios update that might address any of your symptoms.

To test the ram, download memtest86+. It should run a full pass with NO errors.

To test the cpu, run prime95 long enough to get the cpu to a maximum temperature.
Use the option to check for rounding errors. There should be NO errors.

Go to the hard drive vendor's web site and download their diagnostic package. For western digital it is called "data lifeguard"

Is your PSU old, or of suspect quality? A bad one can cause strange problems.

Sometimes a faulty USB device can cause strange problems. Try substituting for the mouse or keyboard if you can.

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some of the issues seem related to drivers, are all your drivers up to date"?

Reply to buzznut

Drivers don't cause vertical lines on the screen at POST.

Reply to GhislainG

Just curious...

Lest forget the secondary HDD, I've disconnected it for now. The DVD drive is detected fine now.

Since the graphics card works, sometimes, we can assume the card isn't the problem. It may be, but I don't think so. Occasionally I can get it to work by removing and re-installing it, however, upon reboot it's not detected again.

Either the BIOS is not taking enough time to during initialization process to detect it or...what? Can this be tweaked?

Would re-installing the drivers for the MB be of any benefit? Is that something a bong hitting novice like me can do easy enough?

Reply to sndlwood

Drivers can't help since they are loaded with the OS. I may be wrong, but your video card is most likely defective. Try another card to see if it resolves the issue.

Reply to GhislainG

I updated the BIOS, which seems to have solved the problem with taking forever to initialize and my USB mouse has not frozen since.

I disconnected the spare HDD, it isn't needed

I replaced the PSU to Corsair750, well above the recommended level for the graphics card...the problem(s) with my old graphics card persisted. Some times the card is detected but on reboot it is not.

I replaced the graphics card to GFX260, including the new drivers. It installed without problem, however after some hours I realized that the DVD drive wasn't present. After rebooting the DVD drive was detected but the graphics card was not. So I don't believe either the original card or the new one are defective.

I do not have a second PCI-E slot, so I can't move the card.

Currently I am downloading a newer system driver...fingers crossed.

Reply to sndlwood
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