Which ones the best?
a) Q8400 with Radeon HD 4870
b) Q9400 with HD 4850 1GB
c) Q9450 with HD 4850 512/4770 512
Games- everything except strategy games.
Settings- All max, 2x AA, 16x AF, 800*600(6x forced AA), 1024*768.
Which ones the best?
a) Q8400 with Radeon HD 4870
b) Q9400 with HD 4850 1GB
c) Q9450 with HD 4850 512/4770 512
Games- everything except strategy games.
Settings- All max, 2x AA, 16x AF, 800*600(6x forced AA), 1024*768.
I'd go with the Q9550 for lasting power; If your working on LGA775, you might as well max it out while you have the chance (I expect prices to skyrocket at the platform dies). The 4870 might be a bit overkill for your resolution, but it certainly won't hurt at all, and will give some extra staying power.
The overkill is cause I intend to keep the system for ~5 years. GPU change in 2011. Also, I like knowing theres some power in reserve.
BTW isnt the i7 faster than the Q9550? So wont that be better lasting?
Building from scratch. Current system - P4 2.0 GHz Socket 478, 256 KB L2, 256 MB RAM @ 266MHz, GeForce FX 5500 256MB, 40 GB HDD.
Given a choice I'd take a Phenom II,but AMD isnt available in my area. People here buy branded HP Pentium D's with 512MB DDR1 333MHz RAM and 128mb Intel GMA's thinking they can max out NFS Undercover
The i7 isn't that much faster then the old 9xx0 series of Quads, but has the 8 threads via virtualization, and a edge in multi-GPU setups. Anything over a Q9550 should be good through the i7/i5 generation.
The socket the Duos/Quads run on, LGA775, is essentially going on obsolete, as i7 operates on a new socket. The problem is most LGA775 systems use DDR2 RAM in Dual Channel (two sticks) and i7 uses DDR3 in tri-Channel (3 sticks), rasing the costs of installing memory and the cost of the mobo to boot, adding around $400 to the price.
Again, a Q9550 or better will be fine for several years; we are only hitting the front end of multithreading, and Quads over time will get better and better. I personally plan to wait until the next new arch (AFTER Sandy Bridge in 2011) to upgrade from my QX9650.
Thing is, the CPU wont see an upgrade till at least 2013/2014. Will the C2Q's last till then?
Provided they can still drive the GPU, sure. i7's aren't significantly faster clock for clock, their only real edge is tri-DDR3 and the extra 4 threads they can handle. Unless we go massivly multithreaded within the next 5 years, to the point where a 4 thread CPU can't handle games, there is no reason a C2Q at any decent clock speed should be obsolete anytime soon.
i7's are an incremental step, sort of like AMD's Phenom/PhenomII. Good CPU's, but nothing that changes the game (like the Pentium, Athlon, and later Core2 lines did). Lower clocked Quads may see some bottlenecking toward the end, but should be plenty competive for at least the next 4-5 years, well within the expected timeframe for the successor to Sandy Bridge on a 22nm process.
Hence, why I recommend Quads over Duos; if you don't plan on buying a new PC with a i7, you might as well max out LGA775 before the supply drops and prices skyrocket.