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March 7, 2009 4:33:50 PM

hi, im looking forward to biuld a gaming pc, to run some of the latest games such as fallout 3, gta iv, crysis,etc

i dont want to OC (maybe in the future)and dont necessarily need to run the games at max settings pushing to the limit..i just want a smooth playing

can this biuld make it?

INTEL CORE2DUO E7200/E7300
Intel BOXDG35EC SATA II Gigabit Ethernet
GeForce 9800gt 512 mb
2x kingston 2gb 800bus
500bg sataII

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March 7, 2009 4:55:20 PM

Do you have a budget? Do you have any bits left over from previous computers, DVD drive? Do you need an OS?
March 7, 2009 5:12:21 PM

this pc with be around 700-750.. its the cheapest i can get where i am..

changing the cpu to a E8400 and the mobo to a asus p45 costs around 900

a big difference..

(im not considering buying by internet)
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March 7, 2009 5:36:49 PM

im sorry.
yes, the other stuff i got it covered
March 7, 2009 5:41:51 PM

Why are you not buying by internet? Got my whole system by internet and no problems. All brand new stuff.
March 7, 2009 5:43:14 PM

Waste to just buy local if you ask me. pay 2-4 times the amount. Bought mine straight newegg and i love it and all boxes and parts had no damage. :) 
March 7, 2009 5:44:05 PM

Plus overnight shipping is the S##T
a b 4 Gaming
March 7, 2009 5:52:15 PM

We would not recommend the Intel motherboard. Intel chipsets, yes. Intel motherboards, no.

If your budget is really tight and choices are limited, look for a P43 or P45 board. At the least, the G35 chipset you picked is OK. P35 would work as well.

ASUS and Gigabyte are the two brands to look for first. If you can't find one of those, try Biostar or Foxconn, or possibly MSI.

For a hard drive, look for a Western Digital Caviar 320GB with the letters "AAKS." This will be fairly fast and affordable.

Finally, see if you can find a Radeon 4850 that is in budget. These are faster and still fairly inexpensive. If you can't find one that fits your budget, the 9800GT or 8800GT are fine.


a b 4 Gaming
March 7, 2009 5:53:11 PM

Not everyone lives in a place like America, Darkside :) 
March 7, 2009 5:55:01 PM

cause i live in uruguay (south america) and im not sure about shipping
a b 4 Gaming
March 7, 2009 5:56:36 PM

Yes, that would be hard. ;)  Just look around for the parts I mentioned.
March 7, 2009 5:57:07 PM

MAIL newegg .. ask them
March 7, 2009 6:17:21 PM

But what i dont understand is whats the problem with de DG35EC?
i mean, besides the limited overclocking i can get, does the pc start? it works? could i play?

heres a list of mobos which stand in the budget:

Asus P5QL-EM Intel G43

Asus P5KPL- CM Chip G31

Intel DG41TY Chip G41

Foxconn 45GMX

And with the P45 theres like a 100$ difference

a b 4 Gaming
March 7, 2009 6:36:47 PM

Intel boards have been problematic in the last year or two. True, they don't overclock well, if at all. However, they have not been very reliable lately.

That ASUS P5QL-EM would be a fine choice. The newer chipset would be a better performer, and the newer BIOS would be less likely to need a flash, which is always risky. G31, G35, P31, P35... those are older boards that might need more work before they run a Wolfdale CPU.

Now, if you buy the board, CPU, and memory all from the same store, and they test all three parts together and verify they are all working correctly and flash the BIOS to the latest...

Then it would not be such a big deal and you could get a G31 or whatever. Ask yourself first though: Do you want a board that has been sitting on a shelf for two years, or one that has been there only 6 months?
March 7, 2009 7:26:09 PM

doing some math, and taking in count what u said that if i bought the board, CPU, and memory all from the same store, they could test it, i came to this:

INTEL CORE2DUO E7400
Asus P5QL-EM Intel G43
GeForce 9800gt 512 mb
2x kingston 2gb 800bus
500bg sataII
DVD drive x22

3 quick questions:

1) are the E7400 and the Asus P5QL-EM Intel G43 compatible?

2)will it be ennough with a 500W power supply?

3)do i need an extra cooler?


a b 4 Gaming
March 7, 2009 7:32:02 PM

1. Yes.

2. Depends on the power supply. They are not all good, and just because they say 500W does not mean they deliver that. Also, the amperage on the 12V rail is more important than wattage.

3. A good cooler would allow you to overclock possibly. It might be needed also if the room with the computer gets warm. An ambient temperature of 80F or 27C average would be about as far as I would go with a stock cooler.
March 7, 2009 7:39:50 PM

i found a ower supply with 30a on the 12V rail, thats ok?
a b 4 Gaming
March 7, 2009 8:02:10 PM

That helps.

Other things to look for are 80 Plus certification and Active PFC. These are signs of a good PSU.

Here is a big list of manufacturers and models, rated for stability and reliability:
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx

There are a few PSUs that might look good in writing but can fail and damage your hardware.

It's always difficult to find a good PSU locally, even here in the US. It will be harder for you. Corsair, PC Power and Cooling, Seasonic, and most Antecs are good. OCZ is often a good deal and not bad quality.
March 7, 2009 8:18:59 PM

OK im mailing the store because the catalog has generic PSUs
March 8, 2009 12:53:03 AM

I understanf that some people don't live in a mainstream import country but it's worth checking out so you don't waste money at your local pc store
March 8, 2009 1:06:44 AM

yeah know that with the money i spend in local stores i can get a much better pc in the "mainstream import country", but maybe i prefer buying here cause its a lot more safe and i have much more support and guarantee
a b 4 Gaming
March 8, 2009 1:36:24 AM

Plus you support your local economy.
March 8, 2009 9:54:44 AM

by the way, the 9800gt im getting is ZOTAC

anything to consider about it?
a b 4 Gaming
March 8, 2009 8:01:17 PM

No, that's fine, unless you have other brands available with better warranties.
March 8, 2009 9:30:25 PM

a friend of mine just got a pc very similar to mine with a Asus P5KPL- AM Chip G31 mobo and works very good with games (cod4, fear2..)

he has:

INTEL E7400
Asus P5KPL- AM Chip G31
2gb ram
250gb hard disk
geforce 9400gt

if i had the same but 4gb ram, 500gb hd and the 9800gt would be ok right??
a b 4 Gaming
March 8, 2009 9:35:36 PM

The P43 board would be better, but if you need to save the money, so be it :) 
March 8, 2009 10:02:36 PM

:)  ill see what i can do..if i can get some extra $$ ill go for the p43

ill tell you how this ends

thank you ver much
March 9, 2009 6:57:42 PM

I see your point guys. Thank you for mending my ways and putting me back on the righteous path. :) 
March 9, 2009 7:34:52 PM

i found out newegg doesnt ship to the lands
March 10, 2009 2:51:55 PM

what os should i get for games??
a b 4 Gaming
March 10, 2009 9:12:21 PM

That depends on the games I suppose. Vista 64-bit unless you have a lot of old games you are playing. XP 32 bit is fine if that's easier to get. Don't get XP64.
March 11, 2009 1:52:15 AM

ok..i was thinking in new games so ill get vista ultimate 64
thx
May 11, 2009 7:50:14 AM

E7400 at 2.8Ghz 1066Bus 3MB cache is a Nice cheep CPU for gamming, the best thing is for OC... at 1333Bus = 3.5Ghz Core. and 9800GT is the one i have on my computer, not too great on highest resolutions. I prefer Ati HD4870 but is to expensive for my teaste. Anyways my E2180 runs fine with 11k 3dmark06 score on E2180 at 3.0Ghz. Pherhaps I would buy this new CPU, but there is no real need for it i thing. Win XP3 is the best choice since Windows Seven still is not official yet. The problem with Vista is that you will need 6GB of ram and 64bit version if you are a gammer since drop you free ram in large amount. Yhee yhee, I dont have an enter key, I know...
May 11, 2009 8:10:59 AM

kakanutto said:
E7400 at 2.8Ghz 1066Bus 3MB cache is a Nice cheep CPU for gamming, the best thing is for OC... at 1333Bus = 3.5Ghz Core. and 9800GT is the one i have on my computer, not too great on highest resolutions. I prefer Ati HD4870 but is to expensive for my teaste. Anyways my E2180 runs fine with 11k 3dmark06 score on E2180 at 3.0Ghz. Pherhaps I would buy this new CPU, but there is no real need for it i thing. Win XP3 is the best choice since Windows Seven still is not official yet. The problem with Vista is that you will need 6GB of ram and 64bit version if you are a gammer since drop you free ram in large amount. Yhee yhee, I dont have an enter key, I know...

nice bump...

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