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March 7, 2009 4:35:11 PM

So I have been lurking these forums and browsing newegg for a week or so now. I have a limited budget to build myself a new machine. I would really appreciate the input of this community and assistance.

I decided to go with AMDs new phenom II 3.0 chip and have such built my system around it. If someone could show where I could benefit better by going with intel I would be intrested in the input. For my video graphics I chose 2 EVGA 260 216core cards. I was thinking of going for the dual - sli 9800GTX but had the extra $200 to spend. If someone sees where I could save money or where I have gone overboard please point it out. I chose the CM-690 case and hope everything will fit in here. I believe this case only comes with 3 fans and has slots for 7. Would be nice if someone could recommend some additional fans and tell me how to place them IE which way the airflow should go. I currently have a 80gb WD raptor drive 10k rpm that I plan on using as a primary HD. I picked the vista 64bit Ultimate only because I got a 50$ discount which made it where I was basicly paying 119$ for the ultimate instead of 99$. Also should I hold off on getting a new OS, continue using WinXP and wait for Windows 7 or go ahaead with the Vista 64.

I know this is alot of info requested but I figured I could just sum it up in one post instead of re posting. Again all input is much appreciated. Also should I get a non stock cpu fan for this chip ? Dont really plan on O/Cing but if its easy maybe.

MOTHERBOARD
ASUS M4N72-E AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA nForce 750a SLI ATX AMD Motherboard $134.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GRAPHICS CARD
SLI EVGA 896-P3-1255-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 896MB $239.99 (20.00 MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MEMORY
Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 Desktop Mem $51.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS & Harddrive
*COMBO* $209.98
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit for System Builders - OEM
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 32mb Cache
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

CPU & other GPU (SLI)
*COMBO* $433.99 (20.00 MIR)
EVGA 896-P3-1255-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 896MB 448-bit
AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

PSU & CASE
*COMBO* $199.00 (20.00 MIR)
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W
COOLER MASTER RC-690
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


Total $1270.92
Shipping $42.51
GTotal $1313.43

More about : build request

March 7, 2009 4:45:39 PM

Looks good. I'd suggest changing the RAM to Mushkin or G.Skill rated at a lower voltage.
March 7, 2009 5:31:49 PM

Don't get 2 GTX 260's, get dual 1gb 4870's instead, they are better in high res situations and cheaper. You'll end up with a 790 board instead but you're performance will increase.

Also the Caviar black hdd's are just as fast as the velociraptor's so it won't make much difference in which one you use.
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March 7, 2009 5:40:00 PM

Yep, unless you are buying Kingston out of loyalty, in which case that's fine. They always have solid products.

You are not saving money however, I need to point out. Also, Nvidia chipsets aren't real popular here lately.


Combo 1:
Sapphire 4870 1GB AND Q9550

Combo 2:
Gigabyte UD3P P45 MB AND Corsair 850TX

Combo 3:
Vista Ultimate 64-bit OEM AND Caviar Black 640GB

Basically do this:

Switch to the similar performance Intel quad, and a more stable, higher performing P45 board. 4870 1GB is very similar performance to the GTX 260 core 216, but is ALOT less money.

If you still want to go with Deneb, get a 790GX board and put the two 4870s on it.

March 7, 2009 5:48:17 PM

I wld listen to proximon on this
March 7, 2009 7:18:34 PM

okay swapped these:

Mushkin Memory 2.0 voltage down from 2.3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80569Q9550 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115041


went with 2 x
SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814102801


Does this motherboard support Crossfire ?
I have heard a few games having problems with ATI cards, specificly World Of Warcraft I dont know how true these are.
This board also states that it can do DDR2 1333 ... I am having a hard time finding this ram

Any thoughts on the fans ?
March 7, 2009 7:53:43 PM

If you are going for a sizeable overclock this is the stuff:
G.Skill 1100Mhz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Otherwise you are just as well off or better with this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
As long as you are not taking the FSB beyond 400Mhz, you don't need more than 800Mhz RAM. (1066 makes just a bit more sense in AMD builds, but the gain is still small)

WOW runs fine on my single Sapphire. It's possible that it has issues in crossfire, but since my single card gets 60FPS in raids I don't really care ;)  It's not like WoW is graphically intensive.

The UD3P I linked supports crossfire. Most P45 boards do, but this one is a more deluxe model at a moderate price. We don't really recommend builds with X38 or X48 boards anymore, because there is not much if any performance gain, and if you are going that route you might as well get an i7 and X58.

You can always pretty much ignore that number on motherboard descriptions. It's really just a statement of overclocking ability. Your RAM clock speed will not have any big impact on performance.

Your case will come with fans. You mean CPU cooler?

Xigmatek Dark Knight:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mx-2 thermal paste
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


March 7, 2009 8:05:54 PM

The Gigabyte board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

has this stated in the specification section, which had me a little worried.

"PCI Express 2.0 x16 2 x PCI Express 2.0 x16
(one running at x16 model, another one running at x8 model)"



As far as fans and cooling: I meant the case itself comes with 3 fans, it has 7 spots for fans though. Which fans should i get for optimal cooling/quietness with budget in mind :)  also which way should I point the fans for optimal air flow.


Cooling, should I use the stock CPU fan or get a different one. Dont think I would need to OC this system but OC to 3.0ghz wouldnt be out of the question

Once again thanks for all the assistance in helping me make a educated purchase.
March 7, 2009 8:12:48 PM

The mobo will do Crossfire at x8/x8, but it really won't make much difference from x16/x16.
March 7, 2009 8:31:13 PM

I would think that dropping down to X8 would be half the performance....
March 9, 2009 4:59:20 PM
March 9, 2009 5:05:39 PM

Double Post
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