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March 8, 2009 10:29:47 PM

New Computer for a Buddy , he wants kinda a New Build but he's Unsure... My Specs , *built for 1300*

Mainboard : Asus P5Q-E
Chipset : Intel P45
Processor : Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 2833 MHz
Physical Memory : 8192 MB (4 x 2048 DDR2-SDRAM )
Video Card : ATI Radeon HD 4850 Series *2 of these*
Hard Disk : WDC (1000 GB)
Hard Disk : WDC (150 GB)
DVD-Rom Drive : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-216D ATA Device
DVD-Rom Drive : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-216D ATA Device
Monitor Type : X213W - 22 inches
Monitor Type : LCD Monitor - 20 inches
Network Card : Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology Ltd) Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Network Card : Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology Ltd) Yukon 88E8001/8003/8010 PCI Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper)
Operating System : Windows (TM) Vista Ultimate Professional 6.00.6001 Service Pack 1
DirectX : Version 10.00
Windows Performance Index : 5.9

Anything i should change ? cuz he wants a i7 I told him no he doesn't need that and get a AMD but with a little different Specs , what would u guys do if he want these? Thanks guys.
March 8, 2009 10:37:01 PM

Why not look into a Phenom 2 x3 720 Black Edition. Grab an AM2+ board, overclock, toss in 4 gb of ram, single dvd drive, single hard drive, maybe 1 4850, and vista.
March 8, 2009 10:42:57 PM

Here is what I would do for a $1300 gaming system:
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...
you can combo the CPU and GPU for $30 off, the PSU and Mobo for $10 off, so $1290 subtotal. Then $65 MIR. $1225 + Shipping.

Combo deals:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

So you could even afford to go with a Q9650 if you wanted:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
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March 8, 2009 10:45:35 PM

Hmm... Just wondering Is that the Newest Phenom ? Cuz he's *WANTS* a i7 for his gaming needs *Gah* He says "Cost isn't a Factor* so ... what do i do! T_T
March 8, 2009 10:50:54 PM

Hmm just noticed you needed a monitor too...so that would break the budget and go like $1350 probably...but worth it IMO for what you are getting out of the system.
March 8, 2009 10:55:58 PM

For gaming, the i7 is a waste of money, it won't do any better than a PII or Core 2 Quad 9550. The Q9550 and Q9650 are better than any of the PII offerings at this point, which is why I suggested them. If cost isn't a factor, then I would go with the build I showed you above, and get a nice 24" monitor. The only place the i7 pulls ahead is in video editing, media file conversion, and heavily threaded apps like that. Gaming doesn't use more than 2 threads usually, only exceptions to this are FSX and GTA4, which will use quad cores. 8 threads will be a waste of money IMO.
March 8, 2009 11:46:58 PM

69ers said:
New Computer for a Buddy , he wants kinda a New Build but he's Unsure... My Specs , *built for 1300*

Mainboard : Asus P5Q-E
Chipset : Intel P45
Processor : Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 2833 MHz
Physical Memory : 8192 MB (4 x 2048 DDR2-SDRAM )
Video Card : ATI Radeon HD 4850 Series *2 of these*
Hard Disk : WDC (1000 GB)
Hard Disk : WDC (150 GB)
DVD-Rom Drive : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-216D ATA Device
DVD-Rom Drive : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-216D ATA Device
Monitor Type : X213W - 22 inches
Monitor Type : LCD Monitor - 20 inches
Network Card : Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology Ltd) Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Network Card : Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology Ltd) Yukon 88E8001/8003/8010 PCI Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper)
Operating System : Windows (TM) Vista Ultimate Professional 6.00.6001 Service Pack 1
DirectX : Version 10.00
Windows Performance Index : 5.9

Anything i should change ? cuz he wants a i7 I told him no he doesn't need that and get a AMD but with a little different Specs , what would u guys do if he want these? Thanks guys.


Looks like you and your buddy have more money than sense.

20" monitor and TWO 4850's? 24" monitor and one 4850 would be adequate.
TWO EXTRA NICs? Why?
HDD choices look odd to me, but meh.... Maybe a velocoraptor and a 640GB black?
If buddy already has XP, and a bit of patience, Win7 is due to hit the streets soon. I'd hazard a guess 6 to 8 months.
Why TWO DVD's? DVD to DVD burning is much slower than burning from a HDD image.

All in all, a really poorly thought out build. No balance at all.
March 9, 2009 12:38:48 AM

69ers said:
Anything i should change ? cuz he wants a i7 I told him no he doesn't need that and get a AMD but with a little different Specs , what would u guys do if he want these? Thanks guys.


No offense, but you should really start listening to your "buddy". It sounds like he's a bit more up on the technology. Anyone that would get anything other than an i7 rig if they can afford said i7 rig needs to go back to the drawing board. The i7's are so far ahead of the game it's not even funny. Google up some benchmark results are take a look at the ones posted on this site for "cpu's".

Here's something for your friend to take a look at.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $189.99 ($169.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate)
MSI X58 Pro LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $288.99 Free Shipping*
Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $119.99 ($109.99 after $10.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $22.99 Free Shipping*
LG Black 22X (CAV) DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X (CAV) DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $164.99 ($149.99 after $15.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
SAPPHIRE 100259L Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $169.99 ($149.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate)
ASUS VW224U Black 22" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ HDCP Support 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 5000:1) Built in Speakers - Retail
March 9, 2009 1:43:34 AM

croc said:
Looks like you and your buddy have more money than sense.

20" monitor and TWO 4850's? 24" monitor and one 4850 would be adequate.
TWO EXTRA NICs? Why?
HDD choices look odd to me, but meh.... Maybe a velocoraptor and a 640GB black?
If buddy already has XP, and a bit of patience, Win7 is due to hit the streets soon. I'd hazard a guess 6 to 8 months.
Why TWO DVD's? DVD to DVD burning is much slower than burning from a HDD image.

All in all, a really poorly thought out build. No balance at all.




Let's see The Monitors , were free so i though ooh =DD but what else , the 4850's were CHEAP so i had to buy them , why not two for the price of one ? HDD was the only ones they had left so i went with it *cheap again* also the DVDs , Main reason is that I'm going to be burning two things at the same thing *Games so forth* and i wanna be able to burn quickly and use with the duplicator =DD also the computer was quite cheap as explained 1300 to build this entire thing about... 5 months ago

March 9, 2009 1:48:44 AM

69ers said:
Let's see The Monitors , were free so i though ooh =DD but what else , the 4850's were CHEAP so i had to buy them , why not two for the price of one ? HDD was the only ones they had left so i went with it *cheap again* also the DVDs , Main reason is that I'm going to be burning two things at the same thing *Games so forth* and i wanna be able to burn quickly and use with the duplicator =DD also the computer was quite cheap as explained 1300 to build this entire thing about... 5 months ago


So this build was done 5 months ago, and your question now is whether to go with AMD, LGA 775 quad, or i7 correct?

Lucky for your friend that prices have dropped so much in the past five months eh. Now he can get more for his money.
March 9, 2009 1:50:53 AM

Hmm let's good , but honestly i questioned why he'd want the i7 he's a hardcore gamer but i don't see the point in getting the i7 , but nonetheless ima force him to get a AMD cuz he's a gamer =DD also u guys , IF he got a AMD system what would be a good set of Video Cards for him to have? *Lastly which video cards should he consider* He likes the GTX295 , in a double SLI but..I'm prefering ATi what do u think?
March 9, 2009 1:51:58 AM

Sounds a bit fishy overall.... Don't think I want ASIO knocking at my door.

Bye bye.
March 9, 2009 1:55:20 AM

Umm... Lol? why would the ASIO mess with u? ur just responding to a thread! =DD
March 9, 2009 2:08:31 AM

Is there a reason you want an AMD system? Intel has better offering at this point for performance in games. Only reason to chose the AMD instead is because of price, but that isn't really an issue it sounds like.
March 9, 2009 2:08:42 AM

69ers said:
Hmm let's good , but honestly i questioned why he'd want the i7 he's a hardcore gamer but i don't see the point in getting the i7 , but nonetheless ima force him to get a AMD cuz he's a gamer =DD also u guys , IF he got a AMD system what would be a good set of Video Cards for him to have? *Lastly which video cards should he consider* He likes the GTX295 , in a double SLI but..I'm prefering ATi what do u think?


What a good friend you are. Yes force your friend to go with a ghetto AMD instead of the i7 eh. With friends like you who needs enemy's? :sarcastic: 
March 9, 2009 2:25:44 AM

xthekidx said:
Is there a reason you want an AMD system? Intel has better offering at this point for performance in games. Only reason to chose the AMD instead is because of price, but that isn't really an issue it sounds like.


I wouldn't even bother with this OP. He came in here asking for advice....advice anyone could get just by using "Google Search" yet he already knew what he was going to force his friend to do. Common sense and logic don't mean much with this bloke.
March 9, 2009 3:28:24 AM

two network cards? Why ?

vista ultimate? why?


a lot of the rest is questionable but those two are plain dumb
March 9, 2009 5:31:59 AM

windows vista : Torrent
processor? the phenom 2 940 3.0 am3 socket is coming out this month i think.
am3 compatible mobo.
video card? 4870, 4870x2 or a nvidia 200 series.
network card? forget that all mobo's have onboard and most likely support 1 gbps connections.
grab 4 or 6regular hard drives 500 gigs each and put raid 10.

but if cost is not a factor go with the intel i7 extreme

March 9, 2009 12:46:38 PM

If money is no concern, and HE IS PAYING FOR IT, the logical thing any "buddy" would do is help him build an i7 PC.
However, after looking at your specs, I too would be extremely cautious of any suggestions you make about picking PC parts.
This looks more and more like a
"whaaaaaawww, sniff, sniff, pouting with jealousy, I don't want my buddies new computer to better than mine" kind of thing to me.
!