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there are no rebates or any sexy deals yet, i bet they're waiting for the gtx275 to be released to do some cuts, and reap the rewards from the suckers till than...

275 looks more attractive though, but only if its about the same price the 4890 is right now. otherwise, not so much.

question, is it better getting that 4870 2gb from sapphire, 4850x2 from sapphire, or the 4890?

if the 4850x2 is there, what gap are they trying to close exactly???

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Reply to gkay09

And is correctly priced between the 260 and the 285 :P.
Surely the 285 has to come down to atleast $300 range so as to give a competition to the 4890....

Reply to gkay09

If its within the 5% shown on early reviews it does. Not enough a lead for 100$ premium, more like 40-50$

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Reply to jaydeejohn

^Yes...
But I think the GTX280 at around $290 is somewhat good buy now...though around the same price would be a better deal...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814143141
It will perform more or less similar to the 4890...


Message edited by gkay09 on 04-02-2009 at 07:57:47 AM
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There are quite a few at $250. Its nice to see some options that are (currently) under the $260 quoted price. Now where are the reviews, I need them to prove to a couple of people that I was right...

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Reply to 4745454b

Here is Tom's review: http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2262.html

here is a Powercolor review: http://www.overclockersclub.com/re [...] or_hd4890/

I cant wait for some NON-reference cooling to come out on these suckers!

Reply to boudy

The reviews that I have seen for the 2GB version of the 4850x2 show it generally outpacing the gtx 285. Since the 4890 can not out perform the 285 then it is slower than the 4850x2.

The more that I think about it, the more it seems like the 4890 should be an outright replacement for the 4870 rather than an addition.

They should stop producing the 4870s then drop the 4890 price down.

Reply to ravenware

gkay09 wrote :

:P Nividia is doing its part now...
http://www.evga.com/articles/00469/



Tom has already benched it (with beta drivers though).

Reply to boudy

boudy wrote :

Tom has already benched it (with beta drivers though).


Hmm...Do they have a direct comparision with the 4890???

Reply to gkay09

Well heads up...both 4890 and 275 review is up on Toms home page...

Reply to gkay09

Well its seems like thecompetition is similar to 4870 1GB and the GTX 260 competition

4870 1GB/ GTX260 core216

4890 1GB/GTX275


Message edited by gkay09 on 04-02-2009 at 09:02:07 AM
Reply to gkay09

Firingsquad has a pretty good article too. They have overclocking and comparisons with the following cards.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 216-shader
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX
ATI Radeon 4890 1GB
ATI Radeon 4890 1GB/CF
ATI Radeon HD 4870 1GB

http://firingsquad.com/hardware/at [...] e_gtx_275/

Reply to ravenware

ravenware wrote :

The reviews that I have seen for the 2GB version of the 4850x2 show it generally outpacing the gtx 285. Since the 4890 can not out perform the 285 then it is slower than the 4850x2.

The more that I think about it, the more it seems like the 4890 should be an outright replacement for the 4870 rather than an addition.

They should stop producing the 4870s then drop the 4890 price down.




The 4890 is the replacement for the 4870. Faster, more efficient and cheaper to produce, just like the 285 replaces the 280.

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Reply to zipzoomflyhigh

the gtx 275 out paces the gtx 280 in some tests, mostly under 1920*1200 though.. impressive nonetheless

i still won't pay 50% more for a 10% performance increase.

Reply to eklipz330

To be honest the 4870 2Gb from Sapphire looks to be able to OC just as well. Its only $250-260 and it gets about 810MHz core with 4.1GHz memory.

then again 900MHz core is pretty impressive. Wounder what the performance difference would be....

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Reply to jimmysmitty

From all the reviews, it seems as if it eeks past the 275 in performance, and seems to even exchange blows with the 285, up to 1920x1200. Wicked. Since I sent my other 4870 that I was using for crossfire back, I think I'll get this. Love that you can OC it past 1ghz, even MILD ocs on the 4870 showed great performance increases, memory...not so much since it already has a huge bandwidth, core OC is where it's at.

On topic of the 4870 2GB, from what I saw it did virtually nothing...apparently it has all the memory it needs at 1GB, the core-clock increases are what show a huge difference if you look at the OC marks, the 4870 1GB oced to 800mhz, is right on par with the 4870 2GB at 800 mhz, so it's all about the core, there was maybe give or take, a 1-2 fps difference, not worth it IMO. I guess it's no different than when you look at benchmarks with crossfired 1gb 4870s, and a 4870x2 with 2gb, crossfireing 4870s, does not make increase it to 2gb, it is still 1gb, yet the 4870 crossfired, running at 1gb, beat out the 4870x2. So I don't think memory is a big factor here.

And there's no way that Sapphire 4870 can OC as much as the 4890, way to many improvements on the 4890, as even they say. Plenty of people are hitting 1GHZ with stock cooling, I wouldn't dare try that on a 4870, even with aftermarket cooling. I even underestimated this card thinking it was just a highly over-clocked 4870, but they replaced the PCB, and made loads of changes that drastically improved the card. Props to ATI, they went on a build that was solid and proven, and made it even better.


Message edited by RPaulG87 on 04-03-2009 at 03:35:10 PM
Reply to RPaulG87

There is no change in architecture to blow previous generation cards away(with big numbers). These cards are minor tweaks to improve clock speed. The propose pricing is consistent with this direction.

It would be interesting to see the 4890x2 challenge the 295.


Reply to leon2006

They aren't making a 4890x2... and if you don't think the fact that the 4890 exchanges blows with the Geforce 285 is pretty impressive, which is priced HIGH above it...I don't know what to tell you.


Message edited by RPaulG87 on 04-03-2009 at 08:07:43 PM
Reply to RPaulG87

Just an FYI, got the Accelero S1 and 4890, got it to 1ghz, with NO volt mods. Capicators are a bit loud off the bat, seems all these new "larger" caps are :-\, can't hear 'em when gaming w\ headphones though :P.

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Reply to RPaulG87

leon2006 wrote :

It would be interesting to see the 4890x2 challenge the 295.



The power consumption would be astronomical!

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Well its seems like thecompetition is similar to 4870 1GB and the GTX 260 competition

4870 1GB/ GTX260 core216

4890 1GB/GTX275




This is sad.....the GTX 285 isnt out-performing the 4890 or GTX 275 like it should be for its price.....

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