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I'm curious if anyone has gotten Physx to work with an ATI video card as their primary display adapter. No I'm not saying getting an ATI card to do the processing, with a second card, not a dedicated physx card. the PCI physx card is too limited, and I want to buy an inexpensive Geforce graphics adapter in addition to an ATI video card to allow physx to run when supported. Has anyone tried this and had any success with it?

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If you are running Xp, it will work just fine.

If, however, you are running Vista or Windows 7 (assumption as the Win7 kernel is basically the Vista one), it will not work.
Vista only allows you to install one driver package for your video card(s).
That means, unless nVidia comes out with a dedicated CUDA driver (highly unlikely) you will not be able to use both cards at the same time.

Reply to outlw6669

It may be possible to use the PhysX driver seperate from the display driver; i haven't tested though.

Reply to gamerk316

I could be mistaken but my understanding was that CUDA (as nVidias PhysX is a CUDA port from the Ageia hardware implementation) functionality is only provided as part of the Forceware display package.
As you can only load one display driver package into Vista, it can not run in tandem with an ATI video card providing PhysX support.

If you could prove me wrong that would be great!
I could finally get some productive use from my old 8800GTS 640 alongside my Cf 4850s :D

Reply to outlw6669

If you search this forum you'll find my old posting where I have a link to a website that instructs you of how to install the Phisyx card separtately with the old drivers

Reply to Euphoria_MK

There is a separate physx driver available. (voila!) What I'm interested in, is who has done it and what kind of success they've had with it.

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The search tool on the top of this page is an amazing feature ;)
Here is the old thread: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] x-possible

 

Anyhow this were the links from there that I was referring to before.

 

Here is the link with the benchmarks done on mirrors edge:

 

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid [...] x/Reviews/

 

and this is a good place to get some help and share experiences about doing so:

 

http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?f=22

 

Good luck!


Message edited by Euphoria_MK on 04-02-2009 at 10:54:33 PM
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Euphoria, I read through the links you provided and you seem to be mistaken (at least for Vista).
In the Mirrors Edge Benchmark, they are using an Ageia PPU, not another nVidia card to run the PhysX.
Also, in the Guru3d forum there is no mention of being able to run a nVidia card for PhysX next to an ATI one in Vista.

It appears that Win7, on the other hand, is capable of running two display drivers in tandem.
From what I have read in the Guru3d forums, the implementation is a bit flaky, as to be expected from a beta OS, but fully functional.

The PhysX drivers linked above can only be used in conjunction with the latest Forceware drivers which can not be installed next to ATIs drivers in Vista.
If you are running Xp or the Win7 Beta, you should have no issues installing and running both cards/driver packages.
Windows Vista, however, is incapable of running a nVidia GPU next to an ATI one for PhysX.

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Message edited by outlw6669 on 04-03-2009 at 09:10:15 AM
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outlw6669 wrote :

Euphoria, I read through the links you provided and you seem to be mistaken (at least for Vista).
In the Mirrors Edge Benchmark, they are using an Ageia PPU, not another nVidia card to run the PhysX.
Also, in the Guru3d forum there is no mention of being able to run a nVidia card for PhysX next to an ATI one in Vista.

It appears that Win7, on the other hand, is capable of running two display drivers in tandem.
From what I have read in the Guru3d forums, the implementation is a bit flaky, as to be expected from a beta OS, but fully functional.

The PhysX drivers linked above can only be used in conjunction with the latest Forceware drivers which can not be installed next to ATIs drivers in Vista.
If you are running Xp or the Win7 Beta, you should have no issues installing and running both cards/driver packages.
Windows Vista, however, is incapable of running a nVidia GPU next to an ATI one for PhysX.



Yes you are right, Vista will not allow you having an additional ATI card.

What they did is purchase a $50 Physix card from ebay and then install the old physx drivers.
That should work fine.

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